Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-24 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:55:18 -0500 (CDT): Hi, [snip] Robin van Spaandonk wrote: Actually, the frequencies that one might expect lie halfway between the 27.2 multiples. e.g. 13.6 eV 40.8 eV 68.0 eV etc. Interesting post Robin. I'm reminded of the 3rd

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-23 Thread thomas malloy
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to thomas malloy's message of Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:43:40 -0500 (CDT): Hi, [snip] Well,let me put it another way. if someone were attempting to get an LENR reactor to work. Let's suppose that it worked, measurable anomolus heat out put. Then they built a

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-23 Thread Esa Ruoho
whats the take on the ravi raju replication of the dave lawton replication of stanley meyer's stuff? is it really true that the popular consensus is that bob boyce's electrolyzer is better at extracting HHO than stanley meyer's tube system (i hear meyer also switched to plates just like bob boyce

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-23 Thread Esa Ruoho
just bumped into these, seems like hours and hours of interviews of people like stephen meyer, jeane manning, dale pond, timothy thrapp, george wiseman (isnt he one of the proponents of browns gas?) Water Fuel Museum Vol.2 - http://www.blogtalkradio.com/waterfuel2007 Water Fuel Museum Vol.3 -

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-23 Thread thomas malloy
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: Actually, the frequencies that one might expect lie halfway between the 27.2 multiples. e.g. 13.6 eV 40.8 eV 68.0 eV etc. Interesting post Robin. I'm reminded of the 3rd and 5th order harmonics used by Keeley. Does anybody know if BLP is using multiple

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-23 Thread thomas malloy
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:In reply to thomas malloy's message of Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:11:29 -0500 (CDT): Hi, [snip] Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to thomas malloy's message of Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:43:40 -0500 (CDT): Hi, [snip] Well,let me put it another way. if someone

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-22 Thread Jones Beene
--- In further reply to Robin van Spaandonk's reply to Thomas Malloy's message: Yes, there is a signature for hydrino activity, and it is EUV radiation in particular spectra. EUV is not expected in electrolysis or combustion, nor is it evident visually like light photons (which would tend to

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-22 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:26:58 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] In a high voltage plasma, EUV can be be expected without hydrinos, but there are specific spectra which are multiples of 27.2 eV which are the important clue, according to Mills' CQM theory; and these energy

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-21 Thread thomas malloy
MAJ Todd Hathaway wrote: This outlines some of the theory behind hydroxy gas production in the Bob Boyce resonance drive systems we are building, similar to the Stanley Meyer's system as described below: AFAIK, the best Boyce Electrolyzers approach the theoretical efficiency of

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-21 Thread thomas malloy
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to MAJ Todd Hathaway's message of Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:19:29 -0700 reinterpreting ordinary electrolysis. There must be some additional energy source involved that is not normally accounted for, and determining exactly what that energy source is, is the real

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-21 Thread Jones Beene
Here is a video of what is very likely (my opinion) to be overunity hydrogen production from Ron Stiffler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1pJEz0YGlQ Dr Stiffler has made no claims of the sort, but the numbers speak for themself in the context of the gas being evolved- and are certainly a bit

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-21 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:30:39 -0500 (CDT): Hi, [snip] Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to MAJ Todd Hathaway's message of Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:19:29 -0700 reinterpreting ordinary electrolysis. There must be some additional energy source involved that is not

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-21 Thread thomas malloy
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to thomas malloy's message of Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:30:39 -0500 (CDT): Hi, [snip] Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to MAJ Todd Hathaway's message of Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:19:29 -0700 reinterpreting ordinary electrolysis. There must be some

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-21 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:43:40 -0500 (CDT): Hi, [snip] Well,let me put it another way. if someone were attempting to get an LENR reactor to work. Let's suppose that it worked, measurable anomolus heat out put. Then they built a hydrio generator and bubbled the

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
--- Robin wrote: This is the key faulty assumption. It is not 1 V. It is 1.48 V (and that is per hydrogen atom, not per molecule). Hence the energy input is at least 2 x 1.48 x 96.5 kJ = 285 kJ, i.e. just what you get out of burning it. Sorry, no free lunch. Yes, although you can get a few

Re: [Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
Apologies to Maj Hathaway who apparently started the original posting to this thread, which for some reason I did not receive, but read it just now in the archives. I suspect that he was actually present at the Jarboe event in Maryland, and can fill us in on anything which was demonstrated there,

[Vo]:theory behind hydroxy gas production using Stanley Meyers unit

2008-04-19 Thread MAJ Todd Hathaway
This outlines some of the theory behind hydroxy gas production in the Bob Boyce resonance drive systems we are building, similar to the Stanley Meyer's system as described below: The electrolysis process is not dependent on energy. From Arrhenius theory, molecules in solution dissociate