Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 3:41 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: You can get an idea of this from the HUP where delta E x delta t = h_bar/2. If delta E is the energy of the reaction (about 4 MeV), then you get a time of at least 8E-23 sec. (I think this is the way it is normally calculated.) In

RE: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to Axil Axil's message: If the cause of LENR is the excitation of the vacuum through the injection of very energetic EMF (magnetic), it might be possible that the energy intensive magnetic fields supported by exothermic gainful

RE: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread Roarty, Francis X
caught between these grains acting as Casimir boundaries? Fran -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 9:42 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far

RE: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread Jones Beene
One further point relative to... it would surprise no one to learn that a nickel version is also used (nominally NiOOH). As mentioned before wrt Rydberg holes in nickel and iron, the combination of the two (found in the Rossi reactor as well) is especially energetic for ground state redundancy,

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Jul 6, 2014 9:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field Eric-- I have several items that may pertain to your effort

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread Axil Axil
the relationship between internal conversion and the far field -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to Axil Axil's message: If the cause of LENR is the excitation of the vacuum through the injection of very energetic EMF (magnetic), it might be possible that the energy

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2014 06:41:53 -0700: Hi, [snip] Not quite the same as LENR but close, since apparently with the military version of nano-thermite, instead of finding the usual nanoparticles of magnetite, we find that a ferrihydrite (nominally FeOOH) is used, which

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread David Roberson
- From: mixent mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Jul 7, 2014 6:21 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2014 06:41:53 -0700: Hi, [snip] Not quite the same

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-07 Thread Axil Axil
the relationship between internal conversion and the far field In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2014 06:41:53 -0700: Hi, [snip] Not quite the same as LENR but close, since apparently with the military version of nano-thermite, instead of finding the usual nanoparticles

[Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread Eric Walker
I'm in the process of trying to better understand internal conversion and it's cross section vis-a-vis inner shell electrons and sources of charge in the far field. I'm hoping someone (Robin?) can help me to get the terminology right and point me to further reading. Here is my understanding so

RE: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
Eric - By now you fully appreciate the impossibility of reconciling mainstream fusion details with LENR. There is little way to rationalize all of the contradictions, based on the data now available… but that does not keep us from trying. Let me add this, which would clear up some of the

RE: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread Jones Beene
Species which look like helium on a mass spec - especially when subject to variable mass interactions immediately prior to measurement. Helium - 4.002602 amu D2 - 4.028203 amu 4 protons as Rydberg matter – 4.03176 amu Next we must consider variable mass. To understand variable mass, this

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread Eric Walker
Interesting proposal, Jones. I'll have to think about it. Thanks for the pointer to the paper. On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: If Mizuno is correct we could add a fourth pathway for the dd reaction in LENR. That would be p+p+p+p. It is not clear if this

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread Axil Axil
One of the insights that we might possibly draw from the Mizuno experiment is that there might be a mix of exothermic and endothermic nuclear reactions going on simultaneously in LERN transmutation reactions. If the cause of LENR is the excitation of the vacuum through the injection of very

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sat, 5 Jul 2014 23:28:13 -0700: Hi Eric, [snip] Here's where my understanding starts to get fuzzy. The above description talked about isomeric transitions, which involve the decay of a metastable isomer to the ground state of the isotope. Metastable isomers

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread Eric Walker
Are there any textbooks you can recommend that touch on some of these areas in some detail? Eric On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 3:41 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sat, 5 Jul 2014 23:28:13 -0700: Hi Eric, [snip] Here's where my understanding starts to get fuzzy.

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread Bob Cook
Eric-- I have several items that may pertain to your effort to understand internal conversion of nuclei. Various isotopes have dipole and quadrapole moments existing in the stable nucleus as well as the excited nucleus. Isomers and radioactive nuclei may have these moments. The moments

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread Eric Walker
Thank you, Bob. If you have any textbooks you particularly like (e.g., touching on nuclear spin states and nuclear transitions), feel free to recommend them. For anyone who is interested, I have found the following helpful in getting a broad overview: - Turner, Atoms, Radiation, and

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 6 Jul 2014 15:56:14 -0700: Hi, [snip] Are there any textbooks you can recommend that touch on some of these areas in some detail? Eric Sorry, I don't know. Google is your friend (sometimes;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: [Vo]:understanding the relationship between internal conversion and the far field

2014-07-06 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 6 Jul 2014 13:43:13 -0400: Hi, [snip] If the cause of LENR is the excitation of the vacuum through the injection of very energetic EMF (magnetic), it might be possible that the energy intensive magnetic fields supported by exothermic gainful nuclear