Re: [Vo]:quote of the day (MIT)

2018-07-07 Thread Nigel Dyer
That's why it is sometimes necessary to get inside the community.   Don't tell Nature Genetics but I am a telecoms engineer who stopped doing biology at 14 because I wanted to do music instead, and wheedled my way into a university Life Sciences dept many years later when I was made redundant f

Re: [Vo]:quote of the day (MIT)

2018-07-07 Thread H LV
Experts are much more likely to accept criticism from fellow experts within their community than from experts outside their community. For example egyptologists who present themselves as experts on the Sphinx and the Pyramids don't want to hear the geological and climatological arguments that the c

Re: [Vo]:quote of the day (MIT)

2018-07-07 Thread Nigel Dyer
I hesitate to say this, but I think Julia may be wrong.   I think it would be better to say that people (including scientists) are sometimes wrong. To say that people (including scientists) are often wrong gives rise to the problems we now have with people distrusting the science of vaccinati

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jczBXmr7yo This continuous video shows startup of a HHO Hot Cat from room temperature to 831F I wonder what electrode that the water clusters of come off of, the hydrogen electrode, the oxygen electrode or both. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Axil Axil wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGWrJ9J5ffM This video shows HHO interaction with and without nanoparticle contact with the catalytic convertor substrate. When the water crystals are allied to the catalytic substrate, full heat capacity is produced. When the water crystals are filtered out of the

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6OZykbnLQw This demo shows how nanoparticles of water clusters can be reacted into heat in an auto catalectic converter. The HHO is the source of the nanoparticles "mouse" On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > The Rossi reactor is currently config

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Axil Axil
The Rossi reactor is currently configured into two functional parts, the "mouse" whose function it is to produce nanoparticles, and the "Cat" whose function it is to catalyze these nanoparticles in a LENR reaction. We can duplicate these functions by providing a nanoparticle source (mouse) and a n

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
On Mar 15, 2014, at 2:37 PM, James Bowery wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, James Bowery wrote: >> 3) Identify which theories make predictions about modifications to the >> experimental protocol (establish a range of hypotheses). >

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread James Bowery
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: > On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, James Bowery wrote: > > 3) Identify which theories make predictions about modifications to the > experimental protocol (establish a range of hypotheses). > > > I find that all the present accepted theories confl

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Bob Cook
Ed and Jones-- I'm glad I believe in the old adage "No Friction No Motion" and that it applies to debate of LENR. Carry On. Bob - Original Message - From: "Edmund Storms" To: Cc: "Edmund Storms" Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 10:20 AM Subject

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, I know that you believe Pd-D and Ni-H involve two entirely different and unrelated phenomenon. Consequently, a discussion is impossible because we are discussing two entirely different concepts. You are so sure your concept is correct, you feel free to be arrogant about your belief. O

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
From: Edmund Storms Jones, these theoretical speculations have not been applied to cold fusion simply because they have no relationship to showing how to make the effect work on demand or to showing how the chemical environment plays a role. Ed, that is simply no

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > From: Kevin O'Malley > > And also perhaps here: > > Note that they used lasers to REMOVE energy from the system (to COOL it). > That's what KP Sinha did, and also, what Ed Storms was unaware of here on > Vortex-L until I pointed it out. Jo

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
A good path James, but with a few potholes. On Mar 15, 2014, at 10:30 AM, James Bowery wrote: > The critical path seems to me to be: > > 1) Economically elicit statistically significant results. Rossi has done this but he has not reveal how. > 2) Formalize that economical method in an experim

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread James Bowery
The critical path seems to me to be: 1) Economically elicit statistically significant results. 2) Formalize that economical method in an experimental protocol. 3) Identify which theories make predictions about modifications to the experimental protocol (establish a range of hypotheses). 4) Based o

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
From: Kevin O'Malley And also perhaps here: Note that they used lasers to REMOVE energy from the system (to COOL it). That's what KP Sinha did, and also, what Ed Storms was unaware of here on Vortex-L until I pointed it out. The interesting thing about laser cooling is that the phot

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
Jones, these theoretical speculations have not been applied to cold fusion simply because they have no relationship to showing how to make the effect work on demand or to showing how the chemical environment plays a role. These are examples of mental games physics encourages that may or may not

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Jones Beene
Kevin, If experiments in any field can demonstrate a high temperature version of a Luttinger Condensate, then your insight is valid and can push forward LENR technology. That is the main issue with anything Bosonic - can it be applied at high temperature. All of the advances in LENR have be

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-15 Thread Kevin O'Malley
And also perhaps here: Note that they used lasers to REMOVE energy from the system (to COOL it). That's what KP Sinha did, and also, what Ed Storms was unaware of here on Vortex-L until I pointed it out. https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg77012.html ---

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Axil Axil
http://news.yahoo.com/paradox-solved-information-escape-black-hole-104543630.html The "BOSENOVA" seen in the DGT might be a nanoscopic version of the information restoration process proposed for the end of life process of black holes. Rovelli agrees: "Information is never too concentrated, and it

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
parated by a greater energy gap, > potentially giving a variety of resonant frequencies that work to effect > transitions. > > Jones, what do the coupling term in the Hamiltonian look like? Any > references you know of? > > > Bob > - Original Message - From: &quo

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Also perhaps here, this smart guy: *A. Bhattacherjee* , Pradeep Jha, Tarun Kumar and ManMohan, Luttinger liquid in superlattice structures: atomic gas, quantum dot and classical Ising chain, *Physica Scripta*, *83*, 015016 (2011). *Aranya B Bhattacherjee*, Tarun Kumar and ManMohan, Luttinger liq

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Unfortunately for me, the 1 Dimensional Luttinger Bose-Einstein Condensate seems to have already been proposed, but as far as I can tell, not as an explanation of cold fusion: ***Also perhaps here. New Journal of Physics Volume 10

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
What do you think of my proposal of a 2-stage LENR theory? First stage, the 1DLEC. As previously discussed. https://www.mail-archive.com/*vortex*-l...@eskimo.com/msg91418.html 2nd stage, RPF The first stage generates some fusion events, and then RPF gets triggered. RPF is nature's way of trying

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Bob Cook
Jones, what do the coupling term in the Hamiltonian look like? Any references you know of? Bob - Original Message - From: "Jones Beene" To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 7:57 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day From: Kevin O'Malley It is compelling that the "pro

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Jones Beene
From: Kevin O'Malley It is compelling that the "protonated molecular hydrogen or H3+, and it is the most abundant or second most abundant ion in the Universe, so it is very common." It is also compelling that RPF is the most common

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Jones: It is compelling that the "protonated molecular hydrogen or H3+, and it is the most abundant or second most abundant ion in the Universe, so it is very common." It is also compelling that RPF is the most common fusion reaction in the universe. I consider RPF to be the Occham's Razor theor

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- ... he [Admiral Steidle] could be referring to something else instead of LENR and ... it is remotely possible that he is referring to another kind of nanotube technology which does not involve LENR, or ZPE - but seriously - what would that be? OK. Let me clarify that rh

RE: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Jones Beene
Yes - Bob - a related blog is where the quote came from. But it is undated, Fran. And yes, he could be referring to ZPE instead of LENR, but to my thinking, it is too soon to try to differentiate the two, since both could be part of the same anomaly. Seldon's page http://seldontech.com/company/

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the day

2014-03-14 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Nice alert-- The "Cold Fusion Now" web page has an item yesterday which parallels what you have attributed to Steidle and makes the connection to cold fusion clearly. Steidle and Christopher Cooper must be close. Steidle certainly has had extensive and complete access to Govt. R&D,

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the Day

2007-07-21 Thread Jones Beene
Steven Krivit wrote: the earth is flat, or is the center of the universe Darwin got it wrong a "young earth" no new taxes... lone gunman "I didn't inhale" I better stop before venturing into political incorrectness... Oh, please you're on a roll -- "I didn't have sex with that woman

Re: [Vo]:Quote of the Day

2007-07-20 Thread Steven Krivit
the earth is flat, or is the center of the universe Darwin got it wrong a "young earth" no new taxes... lone gunman "I didn't inhale" I better stop before venturing into political incorrectness... Jones Oh, please you're on a roll -- "I didn't have sex with that woman." ;) s

Re: [Vo]: Quote of the Day

2006-12-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On 12/14/06, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quote of the Day "If I was 25 again Attributed to George Carlin: Do you realize that the only time in our lives when we like to get old is when we're kids? If you're less than 10 years old, you're so excited about aging that you think in fr