RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
Horace, Not problematic at all! That is exactly what my theory predicts. The energy deficits of deflation fusion prevent isomers form forming and thus (large) gammas. The combination of strong force reactions with large energy deficits followed by weak reactions when feasible makes for

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
Horace Let's look at 58Ni specifically which is over 2/3 of all nickel * The energy deficits for Ni are all huge. For example (energy deficits in square brackets): 58Ni28 + p* -- 59Cu29 * + 3.419 MeV [-6.329 MeV] -- 59Ni28 + neutrino + ~2.6 MeV Ok, as I interpret your theory,

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: Not problematic at all! That is exactly what my theory predicts. The energy deficits of deflation fusion prevent isomers form forming and thus (large) gammas. The combination of strong force reactions with large energy deficits

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
Thanks for the explication. I was not aware that an electron could be trapped like that, but as you say - everyone looks at the shadows on the cave wall from a different perspective. -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner How does a fast electron not produce gamma radiation? Keep in

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace I wrote: Let’s look at 58Ni specifically which is over 2/3 of all nickel The energy deficits for Ni are all huge. For example (energy deficits in square brackets): 58Ni28 + p* -- 59Cu29 * + 3.419 MeV [-6.329 MeV] --

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 14, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Thanks for the explication. You're welcome. I was not aware that an electron could be trapped like that, but as you say - everyone looks at the shadows on the cave wall from a different perspective. Yes. The trapping energy is

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:26:38 -0700: Hi, [snip] How does a fast electron not produce gamma radiation? Is there an example of beta decay that does not register on a sensitive meter? My unsophisticated meters pick up beta decays from bananas! And I've noticed that

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:35:56 -0700: Hi, [snip] Anyway, even if we can get past that one, the next problem resolves to the 59Ni and that large amount of 'real' energy 2.6 MeV. Even if most of the energy were carried away by the neutrino, most of the time - in

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:35:56 -0700: Hi, [snip] This isotope is commonly used in medicine IIRC, with a well-known Auger emission cascade on EC which Levi would have immediately recognized. This is the most problematic of all, given Rossi's lack of radioactivity in

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Aluminum foil will stop beta radiation (and look how thin it is). Sure - and stopping the electron produces bremsstrahlung - easily detected, and you seem to be underestimating the capability of detectors. Fast electrons are not very

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
Robin, Very little ??? No way !!! You and Horace seem to making the same error with the 59Ni situation in cherry picking data. LOTS of copper was seen in the Swedish test. An incredible percentage, since Rossi says no copper is added. We're talking grams of copper converted from nickel, if

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Jones Beene
Robin FYI, If you look at http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/cgi-bin/decay?Ni-59%20EC you will see that the decay of Ni-59 involves electron capture Correct - as I had already mentioned. (with no visible signature because the energy is all carried by the neutrino) 6.3 times out of 10. The

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:54 PM 4/14/2011, Jones Beene wrote: The long half life means it should be VERY evident. There should be massive radioactivity from any such reaction, and yet there is none. Whatever is allowing the nuclear reaction may also accelerate the decay of unstable elements; LENR is fairly well

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-14 Thread Horace Heffner
Using the decay equation: N(t)=N0 * 2^(-t/t_0.5) where N0 = number of atoms initially, N(t) = number of atoms remaining after time t, and t_0.5 is the half life, we see that the proportion of atoms remaining after time t, R(t) is given by: R(t) = N(t)/N0 = 2^(-t/t_0.5) and the

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread francis
Jones, I am convinced that the reversible chemistry is at the heart of this phenomena, that the reversing force is ZPE and that once the mechanism is refined there will not be a need for six month replacement charges or regeneration. My model is of our 3D reality collapsed down

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread francis
Jones, I am convinced that the reversible chemistry is at the heart of this phenomena, that the reversing force is ZPE in the form of gas law and that once the mechanism is refined there will not be a need for six month replacement charges or regeneration. My model is of our 3D

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 13, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Once again: chemistry is fully conservative. We must always preface these remarks with that. Valence electron manipulation can provide no long term gain via reversible chemistry… but … catch-22, a hybrid process can provide gain at the

RE: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread Jones Beene
Horace * Jones, it's good to hear someone talk that way! Did you finally read my paper? I read your paper some time ago and may have commented on it when you were off air but this is not easy stuff to grasp. The quark connection could materialize in other ways too, but you deserve

Re: [Vo]:Reversible chemistry

2011-04-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Horace The heavy element LENR explanation is problematic due to no gammas as you are keenly aware. This could be rationalized if there were a few gammas over background, but when you look at the scope shot of Levi’s very sophisticated