Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Robert Lynn
So if they funded the trip then why didn't they publish any results? After all they are a charity that is trying to promote and expand LENR research - and publishing good results would surely help this. I can only surmise that Defkalion prevented publication, which would contradict their earlier

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: So if they funded the trip then why didn't they publish any results? Because they are under NDAs. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Robert Lynn I can only surmise that Defkalion prevented publication, which would contradict their earlier statements about allowing independent testers to publish. Hiding poor results? Yes - I think they are hiding results, but poor in

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: True, even Celani is not yet independently replicated, at least not on the record, but insiders think the first replication will be published soon. It looks like HUG might have experienced a LENR event.

RE: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
It's just a DETACHMENT event. Let's hope them to find something interresting after the ongoing calibration. -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: mercredi 24 octobre 2012 20:27 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread ChemE Stewart
Good old dark matter/energy. You know it is working when your device malfunctions. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.netjavascript:; wrote: True, even Celani is not yet

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Defkalion has been burdened with poor management, too few qualified scientists . . . I do not know how many scientists they have. - and a flawed business plan. Dumber than dumb. Their business plan envisioned charging extremely high up-front

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-23 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 14:14, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, As a side note, it appears that the entity which funded Michael A. Nelson's traveling expenses was not the Free Energy Foundation, but rather the New Energy Foundation. This correction comes from Mark Gibbs of Forbes. See [1] and

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Every page in this document is marked Extremely Confidential. Evidently that does not mean much at Defkalion. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 14:14, Akira Shirakawa wrote: The document (I suggest saving a copy in case it gets deleted): http://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Summary-of-Visit-to-Defkalion.pdf By the way, I think it's important to point out that this document is dated March 2012, while the other

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 14:24, Jed Rothwell wrote: Every page in this document is marked Extremely Confidential. Evidently that does not mean much at Defkalion. I don't get all this confidentiality either. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Peter Gluck
Old stuff, I think it is proof that this technology is very different from Rossi's. Peter On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-10-22 14:24, Jed Rothwell wrote: Every page in this document is marked Extremely Confidential. Evidently that

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-10-22 14:14, Akira Shirakawa wrote: The document (I suggest saving a copy in case it gets deleted): http://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Summary-of-Visit-to-Defkalion.pdf Compare the document above with this one:

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Alain Sepeda
Professionally I'm devastated to see that... Technically very interesting. not much secret hopefully. Most was in their ICCF17 article. Happy to see Potassium confirmed... Human factor comments are very interesting. tell more than the measures. Too bad it is fruit of the poisonous tree. no

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Nothing we had not surmised.

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
“John Hadjichristos explained that the amount of time the electron of a polarized H atom is close enough to the nucleus to appear to be a virtual neutron (stage 2) is 1 x 10-17 seconds.” This conjecture is not accurate. The excited hydrogen atom would have a quantum number in the neighborhood of

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread David Roberson
I was just looking over the documentation and I saw something that does not make sense. In the step 1 triggering process it is claimed that the separation of diatomic hydrogen into individual atoms is an endothermic process. There is a discussion where it is said that this is done

Re: [Vo]:More leaked (?) info from Defkalion GT

2012-10-22 Thread Axil Axil
A theory that might explain how this excess high energy electron charge forms in response to a spark in a pressurized gas is as follows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_oscillation Plasma oscillations, also known as Langmuir waves (after Irving Langmuir), are rapid oscillations of the