Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-12 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:50 AM 12/12/2012, Eric Walker wrote: I think it is Bob Rohner's company that has the kits, and he appears to be making them available, contrary to John Rohner's wishes, if I remember correctly.  It also looks like Bob Rohner's kit is the one that Russ Gries is testing out in the

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread 7323fu...@gmail.com
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:42:40 -0800 At 08:36 AM 12/10/2012, chan.fusion.po...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: http://papp.scienceontheweb.net/Forming.html www.free-energy-info.co.uk/P2.pdf BTW Trying to pass off LENR as

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I gather “chan.fusion” is accusing Mr. Rothwell of using the lenr-canr website specifically for the purposes of a tax dodge. Oh, give me a tax break! I think not. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: I gather “chan.fusion” is accusing Mr. Rothwell of using the lenr-canr website specifically for the purposes of a tax dodge. I missed that. This would be the world's worst tax dodge, since it costs me a lot more than I can reduce in

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread James Bowery
One can read these optimistic noises with only a day to go as implying that they are delaying any public demonstration of their engine until January's CES show in Vegas. It all hinges on the meaning of the phrase the show as binding to the temporal context of the PowerGen show -- or binding to

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From James: One can read these optimistic noises with only a day to go as implying that they are delaying any public demonstration of their engine until January's CES show in Vegas. It all hinges on the meaning of the phrase the show as binding to the temporal context of the PowerGen show --

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread James Bowery
Actually, if one reads the entire tome JR posted at http://inteligentry.com/report.html there are a couple of contingencies that must be met before demonstrations either live or via video: 1) There is the matter of pending patents which sets some sort of contingency that may block demonstration.

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:44 AM 12/11/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: I gather “chan.fusion” is accusing Mr. Rothwell of using the lenr-canr website specifically for the purposes of a tax dodge. Oh, give me a tax break! I think not. Yeah. I would assume that Jed is using another approach. That is

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Just to be clear on something I recently opined. It’s one thing to express a personal opinion of extreme doubt and suspicion, as I have recently done. It’s quite another thing to assume one’s personal opinion is the correct one that other’s should emulate. If there is the slightest chance that

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:54 AM 12/11/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson mailto:svj.orionwo...@gmail.comsvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: I gather chan.fusion is accusing Mr. Rothwell of using the lenr-canr website specifically for the purposes of a tax dodge. I missed that. This would be the

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Inteligentry announced this Popper kit, earlier this year, with a huge fanfare, to allow people to test the technology. Great idea, really. What happened? http://www.plasmerg.com/kits.html Currently, the page says that the original kit is not available. Not to worry, it is being replaced with

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Yeah. I would assume that Jed is using another approach. That is a charitable activity. It is definitely *not* a profit-making business. Actually, LENR-CANR.org has no legal existence at all. It is informal. However, I get some money from the

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Cy Cle
Answer at bottom:James Bowery Wrote on Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:07:00 -0800On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Cy Cle c...@inbox.lv wrote: No working Papp engine will be displayed or videos shown. It has not been replicated as yet. Rohner brothers do not understood the mechanisms of Papp's engine.

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread James Bowery
This guy checked: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHn5gTtLGkc the technology cited at: http://www.oocities.org/waterfuel111/water_explosion_menu.html which was cited by: http://papp.scienceontheweb.net/Forming.html item 12 He apparently didn't want to release his technology because it would

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:42 PM 12/11/2012, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Just to be clear on something I recently opined. It’s one thing to express a personal opinion of extreme doubt and suspicion, as I have recently done. It’s quite another thing to assume one’s personal opinion is the correct one

RE: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Abd: ... What we have is Sterling Allen, who cut John Rohner a lot of slack. And who is now about as negative as I can imagine him getting. http://pesn.com/2012/12/10/9602241_Inteligentry_Egg-on-Face_PowerGen/

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: They could say so. But what they actually do is to claim that they have something already. They actually did have Popper kits. The question is whether or not they worked, that is, sure, they might pop. the piston

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-11 Thread 7323fu...@gmail.com
FYI: See: http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=659page=56 Copy below: Today, 12:26 AM Post: #1120 Chan Offline Junior Member ** Posts: 20 Joined: Sep 2012 Reputation: 0 Warning Level: 0% RE: Let's build A Popper Noble Gas Engine AKA Ppap Engine. Russ, Papp dissociates

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread ny . min
http://papp.scienceontheweb.net/

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread chan.fusion.po...@gmail.com
FYI: http://papp.scienceontheweb.net/Forming.html www.free-energy-info.co.uk/P2.pdf BTW Trying to pass off LENR as a business when you admit it is your hobby to avoid paying taxes to the IRS is a ploy used by the dishonest born or lucky Rich and that is illegal, JR. Vortex is read by citizens

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Speaking of, Power-Gen starts tomorrow in Orange County, FL. Wasn't Rohner supposed to do his thing there? Here is the map of exhibitors: http://fp32.a2zinc.net/clients/fppennwell/events12/public/fphtml.aspx?eventid=178AEID=129,172,170,171,176IMID=170 I don't see PlasmERG or Rohner

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread Axil Axil
John Rohner will show his version of the Papp engine through his subcompany, PTP Licensing. Axil On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of, Power-Gen starts tomorrow in Orange County, FL. Wasn't Rohner supposed to do his thing there? Here is the

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread Cy Cle
No working Papp engine will be displayed or videos shown. It has not been replicated as yet. Rohner brothers do not understood the mechanisms of Papp's engine. Perhaps they should try to contact Chan.Cheers,IntellectAxil Axil Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:30:16 -0800 John Rohner will show his version of

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Cy Cle c...@inbox.lv wrote: No working Papp engine will be displayed or videos shown. It has not been replicated as yet. Rohner brothers do not understood the mechanisms of Papp's engine. Perhaps they should try to contact Chan. Hmmm, so what's the point?

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread James Bowery
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Cy Cle c...@inbox.lv wrote: No working Papp engine will be displayed or videos shown. It has not been replicated as yet. Rohner brothers do not understood the mechanisms of Papp's engine. Perhaps they should try to contact Chan. 1) How would Chan know? 2)

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread a.ashfield
Inteligentry is still making optimistic noises with only a day to go /*_Wow_!! It looks like we'll be busy with News and Media for several months. We are getting invites to other shows as well.!!*/ We may take a /big booth/ at the *CES* show here in Vegas in January. *ANY LICENSEE

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on reading the Papp patent - #2.

2012-12-10 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:36 AM 12/10/2012, chan.fusion.po...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: http://papp.scienceontheweb.net/Forming.html www.free-energy-info.co.uk/P2.pdf BTW Trying to pass off LENR as a business when you admit it is your hobby to avoid paying taxes to the IRS is a ploy used by the dishonest born or