Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
On 19 Oct 2011, at 04:48, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: A new understanding of flux pinning is the most important relation in 100 years. The magnet floats on the superconductor. Apply an RF field of 10 mega hertz to a small disk and the magnet drops. That what I saw, so what you say. Now

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:55 PM, David Roberson wrote: Hello Frank, You have an impressive understanding of the flux pinning theory. Can you give me an answer to my question? It appears that energy can be put into the floating disk-magnet combination by pushing or pulling against the

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:55 PM, David Roberson wrote: Hello Frank, You have an impressive understanding of the flux pinning theory. Can you give me an answer to my question? It appears that energy can be put into the floating disk-magnet combination by pushing or pulling against the

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread David Roberson
19, 2011 4:31 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:55 PM, David Roberson wrote: Hello Frank, You have an impressive understanding of the flux pinning theory. Can you give me an answer to my question? It appears that energy can be put into the floating disk

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread Harry Veeder
@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 7:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation All this talk of pinning is just fine, but all of this is nicely predicted by the basic laws of electrical induction and the zero resistivity offered by a superconductor, you would expect repulsion or attraction to occur

RE: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
because the supercurrents are not DC. Bob Higgins -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:27 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation Is it posible the RF signal is warming the superconductor just

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread fznidarsic
@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 8:27 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation Is it posible the RF signal is warming the superconductor just above the critical temperature so that it drops? Harry On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:48 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: A new understanding of flux pinning

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread fznidarsic
thanks for the info -Original Message- From: Higgins Bob-CBH003 bob.higg...@motorolasolutions.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 8:48 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:quantum levitation Note that superconductors have zero resistance only for DC. At all frequencies

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-19 Thread fznidarsic
Frank -Original Message- From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 12:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation thanks for the info -Original Message- From: Higgins Bob-CBH003 bob.higg...@motorolasolutions.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 17, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA pretty Very cool! Check out this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyOtIsnG71U Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread Harry Veeder
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:15 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com If the law of inertia is universally true, some sort of centripetal force is required to keep the disc revolving in a circle as it moves above the magnets. I can vaguely grasp how

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread John Berry
All this talk of pinning is just fine, but all of this is nicely predicted by the basic laws of electrical induction and the zero resistivity offered by a superconductor, you would expect repulsion or attraction to occur. Now if this were done in a Vacuum then there would be zero air friction

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is a marvelous effect. I wonder if it would simplify the problem of mag-lev trains, especially ones that run vertically along a space elevator? Conventional mag-lev trains use magnetic force to lift the train, and gravity to oppose the lift. They require complex controls to keep the train

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread David Roberson
John, Do you know where the energy goes that is put into the system of magnet and disk due to the movement I mentioned? I assume it had to become heat energy in one of the two parts of the system. Is it the magnet or the disk? My first thought is that the magnet is the sink. Dave From:

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread fznidarsic
All this talk of pinning is just fine, but all of this is nicely predicted by the basic laws of electrical induction and the zero resistivity offered by a superconductor, you would expect repulsion or attraction to occur. No it is not. This flux pinning thing is a big deal. The same

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread fznidarsic
Jones says. Frank Znidarsic -Original Message- From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 7:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation All this talk of pinning is just fine, but all of this is nicely predicted by the basic laws

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-18 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: fznidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 11:49 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation A new understanding of flux pinning is the most important relation in 100 years. The magnet floats on the superconductor

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Astounding! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-17 Thread fznidarsic
electrical energy directly from a cold fusion reaction.. I have a friend at DARPA. -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Oct 17, 2011 2:47 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation Astounding! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-17 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.10.2011 00:19, schrieb Esa Ruoho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA pretty Wow!

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-17 Thread Harry Veeder
: Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation Astounding! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:quantum levitation

2011-10-17 Thread David Roberson
From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com If the law of inertia is universally true, some sort of centripetal force is required to keep the disc revolving in a circle as it moves above the magnets. I can vaguely grasp how the phenomena of locking preserves the tilt of the disc, but how does