Re: ZPE Jiggle or Cryogenic Neutrino Absorption?
Jones. Is it possible that at BEC temperatures the nucleons of an atom exhibit a large neutrino absorption cross-section? Thus upon absorption theatoms/molecules "recoil" with the energy (KeV to MeV) carried as momentum by the neutrinos and absorb the neutrino's mass energy? Hence there will be an adiabatic mass increase of the atoms/molecules that can be released by stimulation at higher temperatures as thermal energy when the stored mass is released. Might this also alter the "half-life clocks" of radioisotopes, and possibly be a mechanism in "Cold Fusion" and other O/U effects? Frederick
Re: ZPE Jiggle or Cryogenic Neutrino Absorption?
Fred, Is it possible that at BEC temperatures the nucleons of an atom exhibit a large neutrino absorption cross-section? You are suggesting that the BEC temperature of some isotopic nucleons might differ and be much higher - and/or be semi-independent of the whole atom, right? ... and therefore since the rest mass energy of the neutrino, whatever it might be (a few tenths of an eV perhaps) has an associated wavelength in the terahertz spectrum, then should those Condensed nucleons, which have become resonant at that precise wavelength, come in contact with the very large neutrino flux, the stage is set. That is, some of that flux is thermalized at the temperature of the cell itself, so that the Pd cathode which is a nuclear-BEC becomes resonant with the thermalized neutrino flux, despite the kinetic temperature of the electrons being much higher. I hope that I am not putting words in your mouth? Consequently, in a nucleus like Pd-106 or 108 (the most abundant isotopes) a mechanism for Cold Fusion effects might be dependent on a nucleonic BEC forming at relatively high temperature, several hundred degree C, but only under the high effective pressure of a fully loaded matrix. Both Pd and palladium hydrides are superconductive at low temperature. Laufer's Theory of superconductivity in palladium-noble-metal hydrides actually preceded PF by three years. Also it should be noted that *high internal effective pressure* has the same entropy reducing properties as cold temperature. With Pd the loading ratio must get to near 1:1 before this becomes a factor, such that internal pressure substitutes for low temperature. Even at high temperature, this full loading will give entropy properties similar to a few degree K of effective low temperature, for the nucleus especially. When this parameter is reached, then the Pd nucleus can absorb extra mass from the very high neutrino flux at a much higher cross section than normal. This might have the secondary effect of extending the radius for the nuclear strong force, or many other strange phenomena (excess heat) associated with some forms of CF, especially those where less Helium is seen. Ways to test this: Compare two LENR cells, one of which has a lesser concentration of Pd-105 in the cathode composition, which is the isotope which could strongly interfere with BEC formation. This would be very expensive, probably, unless some of this kind of material can be borrowed from a national lab. or Place one active CF cell in the direct geometric line with the MINOS neutrino beam being sent from Fermi Lab to a site in Minnesota, and then compare that with the same type cell placed elsewhere. It recommended that, given the weather, that the experimenter wait till spring, unless he likes ice fishing. http://www.azom.com/news.asp?newsID=2678 Which isn't a bad idea, since many Grumpy Old Men (ala Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon) may be involved in fishing as a recreational pastime, while they await results from the ongoing experiment. Hey, the first Grumpy-Old-Man to score with the neutrino-enhanced work, might get the bonus prize of scoring with Ann-Margaret (assuming he is still interested in that kind of score, and Matthau doesn't destroy his fishing hut out of spite). Jones
Re: ZPE Jiggle or Cryogenic Neutrino Absorption?
I'm thinking that perhaps Liquid H2 (~21 K) or Solid H2 (~13 K) cooled with He4 and a He4 cover gas that can be pressurized might make an interesting experiment. The numbers I came up with for the momentum of a 1.0 MeV neutrino colliding with an H2 molecule suggest a recoil momentum of 1.0 eV or 11,600 K. This might be a way to pin down neutrino mass and oscillation? Frederick Jones Beene wrote: Fred, Is it possible that at BEC temperatures the nucleons of an atom exhibit a large neutrino absorption cross-section? You are suggesting that the BEC temperature of some isotopic nucleons might differ and be much higher - and/or be semi-independent of the whole atom, right? ... and therefore since the rest mass energy of the neutrino, whatever it might be (a few tenths of an eV perhaps) has an associated wavelength in the terahertz spectrum, then should those Condensed nucleons, which have become resonant at that precise wavelength, come in contact with the very large neutrino flux, the stage is set. That is, some of that flux is thermalized at the temperature of the cell itself, so that the Pd cathode which is a nuclear-BEC becomes resonant with the thermalized neutrino flux, despite the kinetic temperature of the electrons being much higher. I hope that I am not putting words in your mouth? Consequently, in a nucleus like Pd-106 or 108 (the most abundant isotopes) a mechanism for Cold Fusion effects might be dependent on a nucleonic BEC forming at relatively high temperature, several hundred degree C, but only under the high effective pressure of a fully loaded matrix. Both Pd and palladium hydrides are superconductive at low temperature. Laufer's Theory of superconductivity in palladium-noble-metal hydrides actually preceded PF by three years. Also it should be noted that *high internal effective pressure* has the same entropy reducing properties as cold temperature. With Pd the loading ratio must get to near 1:1 before this becomes a factor, such that internal pressure substitutes for low temperature. Even at high temperature, this full loading will give entropy properties similar to a few degree K of effective low temperature, for the nucleus especially. When this parameter is reached, then the Pd nucleus can absorb extra mass from the very high neutrino flux at a much higher cross section than normal. This might have the secondary effect of extending the radius for the nuclear strong force, or many other strange phenomena (excess heat) associated with some forms of CF, especially those where less Helium is seen. Ways to test this: Compare two LENR cells, one of which has a lesser concentration of Pd-105 in the cathode composition, which is the isotope which could strongly interfere with BEC formation. This would be very expensive, probably, unless some of this kind of material can be borrowed from a national lab. or Place one active CF cell in the direct geometric line with the MINOS neutrino beam being sent from Fermi Lab to a site in Minnesota, and then compare that with the same type cell placed elsewhere. It recommended that, given the weather, that the experimenter wait till spring, unless he likes ice fishing. http://www.azom.com/news.asp?newsID=2678 Which isn't a bad idea, since many Grumpy Old Men (ala Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon) may be involved in fishing as a recreational pastime, while they await results from the ongoing experiment. Hey, the first Grumpy-Old-Man to score with the neutrino-enhanced work, might get the bonus prize of scoring with Ann-Margaret (assuming he is still interested in that kind of score, and Matthau doesn't destroy his fishing hut out of spite). Jones
Mimiced Polyphase Rotation of Magnetic Feilds
Some distinctions between single phase and polyphase; If the load on each phase of a polyphase source is identical, the instantaneous power output of the alternator is constant. HW Jackson As we can imagine then for a single phase application we arrive at the situation where the instantaneous power out from a single phase is NOT constant, and actually crosses a zero input at twice the frequency. Therefore any magnetic fields in expression appear to expand and collapse in space through the polarity change, and the magnetic field is not constantly present in time. To create the effect of a rotating magnetic field as is present in polyphase motors the magnetic field must be constantly present in time,also appearing to rotate in space which is satisfied by the proper placement of off phased coils. A single phased source can be given different reactive loads to mimic this requirement, that a magnetic field be continually present in time, and also appear in a different location corresponding to the rotation. A mental model can be made for the requirements using 4 large air core induction coils, where we will assume these coils operate in pairs to mimic a polyphasing at 90 degrees. The large induction coils I have experimented with can be used for an example, as they are 20,000 winds and have been used in experimental air core magnet motors, rotating a 50 lb magnet structure 400 rpm. In this analogy a real model is necessary so that a known Q factor can be cited for the operating coils, so that a efficiency comparisons between a mimiced 2 phase system, and a hypothetical actual 2 phase system can be compared. In this situation then, the coils have a operating Q factor of 15: which means that when series resonated at 60 hz, there will be a 15 fold internal rise of voltage with respect to the input, so as to enable 15 times more current then its measured reactive current: to conduct through the coil to produce the magnetic field which for series resonance is almost perfectly phased at near zero degrees with respect to the source voltage. This begins quadrant ones magnetic field in rotation. When phase 1's magnetic field has collapsed to zero, phase two's magnetic field is at its fullest expression in time, and in this case an identical high induction coil can be used, where if the inductance is large, so that X(L) R, (15 for this example), this makes the phase angle of the the actual amperage vs voltage source near 90 degrees, thus also a corresponding magnetic field from the reactive coil appears timing wise in quadrant 2. However that current, as the reactive current will have 15 times less current, from the same voltage source powering both branches; thus 15 times less magnetic field then existed at the start in quadrant one, thus to produce a balanced magnetic field in rotation, in order to increase the AC current in phase two a 15 fold step up transformer would be needed, thus also ordinarily implying that the power requirements for that phase: for that phase to mimic the needed polyphase magnetic field rotation, would actually exceed what the phase would draw in quadrant 1, as the phase that was resonated. The efficiency comparisons are easily shown by the fact that the required voltage rise to establish a sufficient magnetic field are obtained for free in quadrant one, because of the series resonant rise of voltage, but in quadrant two it is paid for by an increased amperage consumption by the source to obtain the same voltage rise as what the q factor of the coil will dictate. If in fact we substituted a bonafide 90 degree off phased emf for the source of quadrant two's magnetic field, then it also could be series resonated and obtain the same efficiency found in quadrant one. Thus on first glance the mimiced polyphase system should be at least Q/2 less efficient then the actual polyphased system, for the given air core analogy. One may protest that since quadrant two consists of a transformer driving a large inductive load, that we could improve the efficiency of that branch by applying a power factor correction on the primary. But the doing of this should destroy the effect we are trying to similate, which is a rotating magnetic field. Applying that power factor correction to quandrant two should actually also change its phasing difference from the source voltage, so that making a power factor correction also reduces the original 90 degree phase angle difference, thus increasing the efficiency reduces the phase angle for the mimiced polyphase branch, which reduces the effect of a rotating magnetic field. HDN Postnote; Pending further experimentation a very remarkable thing should be explored. It would appear from investigations that using long columns of coils in (3 Phase)resonance so that the coil group lengths, even though they are arranged to be adjacent lines of coils which should only show mutual inductance from the adjacent pole endings; reactive mesurements show they have no measurable
Re: ZPE Jiggle or Cryogenic Neutrino Absorption?
Jones Beene wrote: Ways to test this: Compare two LENR cells, one of which has a lesser concentration of Pd-105 in the cathode composition, which is the isotope which could strongly interfere with BEC formation. This would be very expensive, probably, unless some of this kind of material can be "borrowed" from a national lab.I think freezing the electrolyte to be used in an electrolysis cell in LN2 or LHe4 for several hours before use would be easy to do. Frederick
Re: end of science?
Could it be that scientific discoverys are also subject to the bell curve and we made be over the rise portion . Some thing to think about anyhow.-GES-
