Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory

2009-10-27 Thread Michel Jullian
2009/10/26 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net: ... ...you are willing to sell something that not even the fringe physics/chemistry population constituting experts in the CF field agree to as demonstrativeThis could of course, at minimum, be damaging to the field. ... What is missing

[Vo]:What do the Eartchtech CR-39 results show?

2009-10-27 Thread Michel Jullian
What they demonstrate, IMHO, is that the SPAWAR pits occur: 1/ when the deposit is dendritic, not when it is spongy, and 2/ when the CR-39 chip is in direct contact with the cathode wire, not when a 6 micron mylar is interposed Result 2/ does NOT prove conclusively IMHO that any alpha particles

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:The Strange World of “Cold Fusion”

2009-10-27 Thread Michel Jullian
One can only applaud the parts of Steve's post below which were written by the Dr Jekyll in him, such as this excerpt: I applaud your quest for truth, progress and improvement in our energy options and I thank you for your care and interest along these lines. I do hope that you and I can

Re: [Vo]:The Strange World of “Cold Fusion”

2009-10-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: (Abd . . . is obviously not on a crusade against the WL theory) . . . More to the point, no one anywhere is on a crusade against any cold fusion theory. The whole notion is ridiculous. People who disagree with a theory simply ignore it. They may make a passing remark

Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:27 PM 10/26/2009, Terry Blanton wrote: Yes, specifically (p.5): The AEH provides a possible explanation for the varied effectiveness of the alpha, beta, and gamma phases of CF loading. I suggest that in the initial loading phase the adsorbed hydrogen is, as suggested by others,

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:The Strange World of “Cold Fusion”

2009-10-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... It may be that a few people who spend a lot of effort disputing the Mills theory. I have heard there are some on the Mills discussion group. But that is an unusual case. That theory attracts a lot of interest. ... You speculate it may be ??? It certainly has generated plenty

[Vo]:EarthTech CR39 comments

2009-10-27 Thread Jones Beene
From: Michel Jullian In regards to the Galileo protocol, I again suggest you read: http://www.earthtech.org/CR39/index.html The results of EarthTech's experiments are self-contradictory, so of course - NO general conclusion is possible from all of that information, yet most of it is

Re: [Vo]:What do the Eartchtech CR-39 results show?

2009-10-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:19 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: What they demonstrate, IMHO, is that the SPAWAR pits occur: 1/ when the deposit is dendritic, not when it is spongy, and Which, in view of large etching effects from minor scratching, places into serious question any results in the

Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory

2009-10-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: There is no convincing single experiment that demonstrates cold fusion. A year ago I would have agreed. I would have said that the weight of evidence from many different experiments must be considered. Now, I believe that the Arata style nanoparticle gas loading

Re: [Vo]:Arata ICCF-15 handout

2009-10-27 Thread Terry Blanton
It does appear that Arata has created something like Raney Ni by deoxy of the Zirconia in the alloy. In the Raney process, the Al is removed by heat leaving the porous Ni scaffolding. Maybe something of the same is happening in the ZrONiPd. The Arata fusion metal? Terry On Mon, Oct 26, 2009

Re: [Vo]:Arata ICCF-15 handout

2009-10-27 Thread Terry Blanton
Oops. The O2 is removed by heat. The Al is removed by Sodium Hydroxide. I wonder what is the average age of listers here. Will we all become senile simultaneously? Terry On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: It does appear that Arata has created something

Re: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff Kooistra

2009-10-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: At least you weren't forced to learn how to dial a rotary telephone! ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zjlLb0tqGsfeature=related I love this! It is fascinating, and thought provoking. And it is quality work, too. It is an old-fashioned but still slick and well done.

RE: [Vo]:Arata ICCF-15 handout

2009-10-27 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton It does appear that Arata has created something like Raney Ni by deoxy of the Zirconia in the alloy. It's my understanding that the zirconia is not active and serves mostly as an anchor, to limit agglomeration of nanoparticles.

Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-27 Thread mixent
Hi Fran, On your web site you state: The hydrino as defined by Dr Randell Mills has a real fractional quantum state (sub-ground state) which is impossible. Why is it impossible in your opinion? (BTW private email to your email address is rejected for security reasons). Regards, Robin van

Re: [Vo]:EarthTech CR39 comments

2009-10-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:55:14 -0700: Hi, [snip] OK, I agree that that is a minor difference, effectively, since the two are themselves connected, but there are many catalytic hole with my version that are NOT there in Mills, most particularly with lithium, which

[Vo]:Problems with the Galileo Protocol, LENR replication efforts

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Original subject was: Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory At 01:32 PM 10/26/2009, Horace Heffner wrote: You utterly missed the point. My point was that you agreed to the fact it was a poor kit to offer. Depends on it. Straight Galileo protocol, sure. But basic Galileo protocol,

Re: [Vo]:Arata ICCF-15 handout

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:43 PM 10/26/2009, you wrote: Anyone interested in Arata's ICCF-15 handout should please contact me by private e-mail. Yes, please, of course.

Re: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff Kooistra

2009-10-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: But they still had some difficulty understanding the concept of dialing, what was waiting for the dial tone and pushing the dial all way around to generate the correct number of dial pulses. Did you know that you can

Re: [Vo]:Arata ICCF-15 handout

2009-10-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: It's my understanding that the zirconia is not active and serves mostly as an anchor, to limit agglomeration of nanoparticles. But, as I read it, the ZrNiPd is described as a powder, not as nanoparticles. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff Kooistra

2009-10-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Did you know that you can still pulse dial with the hookswitch? You have to be consistent and fast but it can be done. Easier than Morse code. Ha! A repeated hook switch flash, as they call it in the phone biz. I didn't know you could pull that off. It reminds me of

RE: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff Kooistra

2009-10-27 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Captain Crunch, and then there were tone voice whistlers, and blue, black and red boxes -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:58 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff

RE: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-27 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Robin, IMHO all orbital ground states have a balance point between the ambient ratio of short to long vacuum fluctuations (local curvature of space time) from event horizons at one extreme to Casimir cavities at the other. The lowest orbital is kept away from the proton by an

Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:51 PM 10/26/2009, Terry Blanton wrote: What I fear is that, with the various geometries, electron configurations, confinement pressures, etc., optimized, we might still be looking at a probability of fusion in the population which would never yield a cost-effective replacement for dinosaur

Re: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff Kooistra

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:37 PM 10/26/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: I would not be surprised if they eventually discover that power lines are also deleterious. That is another thing that skeptics have dismissed. It is foolish to imagine that we understand biology in any depth. Cancer has increased in all age groups

Re: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff Kooistra

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:40 PM 10/26/2009, Harry Veeder wrote: At least you weren't forced to learn how to dial a rotary telephone! I think that the phone networks still recognize the dial-interrupt signals, so one should be able to dial any landline phone by tapping on the hook button. Nice to know if the

RE: [Vo]:Dial Telephones

2009-10-27 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
There's somewhat of an anachronism in those videos: The video is showing fairly new cross bar switching system hardware which I recall didn't appear 'til the '50s or so. Shortly after WWII, the telephone central offices were using Strowger switches ( or step-by-step switches with Line_finders,

Re: [Vo]:Problems with the Galileo Protocol, LENR replication efforts

2009-10-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 27, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Original subject was: Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory At 01:32 PM 10/26/2009, Horace Heffner wrote: You utterly missed the point. My point was that you agreed to the fact it was a poor kit to offer. Depends on it.

Re: [Vo]:What do the Eartchtech CR-39 results show?

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:19 AM 10/27/2009, Michel Jullian wrote: What they demonstrate, IMHO, is that the SPAWAR pits occur: 1/ when the deposit is dendritic, not when it is spongy, and 2/ when the CR-39 chip is in direct contact with the cathode wire, not when a 6 micron mylar is interposed Result 2/ does NOT

Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Looking at the Earthtech attempted SPAWAR replication, You might search the archives for the term Little Effect and find enlightenment. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Need to reach Jeff Kooistra

2009-10-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: It reminds me of the early days of DTMF when people -- including some now high and mighty industry leaders -- were involved in ripping off the phone company with tone generators. Some guy was reportedly able to do this

Re: [Vo]:Problems with the Galileo Protocol, LENR replication efforts

2009-10-27 Thread Horace Heffner
Here is described what I think is a protocol which is improved over the Galileo protocol: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MosierBosscharacteri.pdf Some key points: CR-39 detectors (Fukuvi), rectangular in shape with dimensions of 1 cm °— 2 cm °— 1 mm, were obtained from Landauer and used

Re: [Vo]:Rothwell has no opinion about theory

2009-10-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: [snip] What would make much more sense is to provide enough of a variety of things so that the purchaser can cook up his own experiments, to provide an erector set for electrochemical experiments. Everyone I know

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:The Strange World of “Cold Fusion”

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:05 AM 10/27/2009, Michel Jullian wrote: Some of the Hyde parts, while obviously not always factual (Abd --I gather he prefers to be called by this name, which is why Mr Hyde called him Dennis-- is obviously not on a crusade against the WL theory) are interesting and informative though.

[Vo]:LR-115 and Boron-10 neutron converter screen availability

2009-10-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 27, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: If anyone is already set up and running codeposition or other LENR expriments, and would like to try using LR-115, I can provide small quantities of fresh material at a reasonable price, contact me. You can buy the material directly

Re: [Vo]:Nickel has unique physical properties

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:49 PM 10/27/2009, Terry Blanton wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Looking at the Earthtech attempted SPAWAR replication, You might search the archives for the term Little Effect and find enlightenment. The vortex archive seems to

Re: [Vo]:Problems with the Galileo Protocol, LENR replication efforts

2009-10-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:06 PM 10/27/2009, Horace Heffner wrote: Here is described what I think is a protocol which is improved over the Galileo protocol: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MosierBosscharacteri.pdf Some key points: CR-39 detectors (Fukuvi), rectangular in shape with dimensions of 1 cm °— 2 cm