[Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!

2010-02-15 Thread Taylor J. Smith

Steven Vincent Johnson wrote on 2-14-10:

``Jones,

On the surface (no pun intended) this is an absolutely
absurd hypothesis [the expanding earth] ...and yet,
I love it!''

Jack Smith writes on 2-15-10:

Expansion of the Earth can be explained by the continuous
creation of matter as proposed by Hoyle and Narlikar, and
as demonstrated by Halton Arp in his exaination of quasars.
Arp thinks that newly formed protons are red shifted but
become blue-shifted as they age (and gain mass).  I find
this theory far less absurd than the Big Bang.

Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:

``But I wants-ta know: where wuz all the ocean water before
Earth expanded.  Laying on top of everything? Maybe Earth
was originally WaterWorld. Watch out for those Smokers!

Oh! I don't care! This is still an elegant hypothesis!.''

Hi All,

Earth is bombarded every day with thousands of tons of
ice from space and, despite the dissociation of water
molecules and the loss of hydrogen, is gradualy becoming
a water world.

Jack Smith




Re: [Vo]:Muon-catalyzed Ignition

2010-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I do not think Duncan takes the Muon-catalyzed Ignition hypothesis 
seriously. I think he listed it as one source of cold fusion that was 
originally considered, for completeness. He also mentioned Paneth and 
Peters (1926), who retracted.


- Jed



[Vo]:Naudin's Feb. 14 Update

2010-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Feb. 14 update

Naudin finds the current through the toroïdal stator coils does not change when 
a load is applied:


http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm
(towards the bottom of the page)

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[Vo]:About the water!

2010-02-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith

Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
 
 ``But I wants-ta know: where wuz all the ocean water before
 Earth expanded. Laying on top of everything? Maybe Earth
 was originally WaterWorld. Watch out for those Smokers!
 
 Oh! I don't care! This is still an elegant hypothesis!.''
 
  Hi All,
 
 Earth is bombarded every day with thousands of tons of
 ice from space and, despite the dissociation of water
 molecules and the loss of hydrogen, is gradualy becoming
 a water world.
 
 Jack Smith


All marine Fossils older than 200,000,000 are from seas that used to Cover the 
Continents.  A better Question is why we a are still not covered with water if 
their had been enough water to not only cover the Seas, but to also cover a 
large portion of most continents.  

 

No doubt much erosion has happened which is the only way any of the continents 
was above water  back then---the continents were higher.  Also, when the 
continents first started moving apart, Recurvature hadn't kicked in as much as 
it did much later, so for a time the continents retained the smaller radius of 
the Earth, which elevated their centers far above sea level.  

 

Then, as the continents flattened out, the wrinkles became mountain ranges.  
Besides, as you noted, a lot of water has shown up since then.  There has been 
far more vulcanism in the last 200,000,000 years than prior---This has released 
far more water than that which has fallen from Space.  Plus, all of the Rydberg 
Matter Geo-Conjecture favours the formation of vast amounts of water.  ---I 
really hope the Earth Growth isn't steam-inflation or Yellowstone might be the 
tip of an awful big steam-berg!  --We really should be hedging our bets with 
those Little-Pops!

 

Also, no one is saying that all the Continents Separated at exactly the same 
time.

 

Scott


 Jack Smith writes on 2-15-10:
 
 Expansion of the Earth can be explained by the continuous
 creation of matter as proposed by Hoyle and Narlikar, and
 as demonstrated by Halton Arp in his exaination of quasars.
 Arp thinks that newly formed protons are red shifted but
 become blue-shifted as they age (and gain mass). I find
 this theory far less absurd than the Big Bang.

  
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[Vo]:Bismuth as a nuclear catalytic LENR agent

2010-02-15 Thread Horace Heffner
Bismuth-209 appears to be an excellent CF nuclear catalysis agent  
when used with deuterium.  It has 100% abundance. The nuclear  
catalysis reaction is:


209Bi83 + 2 D* -- 213At85 -- 209Bi83 + 4He2 + 23.847 MeV [-8.560  
MeV] (125 ns)


The major potential drawbacks are the presence of energetically  
feasible fission reaction channels not deflated electron confined:


209Bi83 + D* -- 198Pt78 + 13C6 + 21.660 MeV [5.599 MeV]

209Bi83 + 2 D* -- 198Pt78 + 15N7 + 37.819 MeV [5.412 MeV]

bismuth has a typically low melting point, even in many alloys, and  
bismuth does not sustain a viable CF lattice by itself, i.e. must be  
imbedded in a useful lattice. It has a lattice constant of 4.75  
angstroms, as opposed to Pd at 3.89 Å, and iron at 2.87 Å.  
Interesting coincidence that the average of iron and bismuth lattice  
constants is within about 2% of that of Pd. A bismuth-iron alloy  
might provide a feasible CF lattice at high loading temperatures.


Bismuth has a spin of 9/2, a large value of mu = 4.5444 mu_N, and  
gyromagnetic ratio of 43.75 x 10^6 rad s^-1 T^-1.  It has a nuclear  
magnetic resonance frequency of 6.963 MHz in a 1 T field.


Nuclear catalysis is carried out best in as large a magnetic field as  
possible, using as large a B field gradient as possible. Other  
considerations are documented here:


http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/CFnuclearReactions.pdf

http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/dfRpt

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






[Vo]:If U239 Plutonium, Does Bismuth + Neutrons to Polonium (Yikes!!!)

2010-02-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith

Hey folks!

 

Let' rethink this one!!!

 

I'm not a nuclear physicist, but I have long-wondered:  If U238 Plutonium, 
then mightn't Bismuth tend to go to Polonium---which is really nasty stuff and 
highly radioactive---many thousands of times more radioactive than Plutonium.

 

You guys are talking about a lot of neutrons being taken up into these 
reactions.  It might not be that hard to reach approach a critical mass and 
create quite a lab-accident and a huge really-bad mess.  (Not to mention, it 
could ruin your whole dayif you even still had a tomorrow!)

 

Scott

 
 Bismuth-209 appears to be an excellent CF nuclear catalysis agent 
 when used with deuterium. It has 100% abundance. The nuclear 
 catalysis reaction is:
 Best regards,
 
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[Vo]:Need to find Raney-Type Alloy w/low melt-point.

2010-02-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith

Fran, is 'Skeletal Pd? ---Raney-Like???

 

To Group, I need to find two metals to make a Raney-Type porous metal sponge.  
Usually this is done with Ni  Al, but they have very high melting points as do 
all members of the Ni-Pd group.  With Al  Ni the aluminum is leached out using 
5-molar Sodium Hydroxide.  Can anyone think of a way to do this with with 
metals with a much lower melting point--but one of which leaches away much more 
easily and is not difficult to handle.

 

Scott
 


Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:34:44 -0500
From: francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
Subject: [Vo]:Cold-Fusion ZPE Vibration of Naked Protons  Relativistic Casimir 
Cavities
To: scott...@hotmail.com
CC: vortex-l@eskimo.com





Wm. Scott Smith said on  Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:48:00 -0800
· Hey Fran, maybe we should try Raney Palladium for this 
application--what do you · think? I did Google skeletal Pd and it does 
exist in different forms, Since the Pd lattice is one of the best membranes for 
disassociating H2 it would make an interesting skeletal catalyst –combining the 
best properties of strong catalytic action with a ready source of monatomic 
hydrogen to take advantage of it. I corresponded with several people last year 
about the need to get monatomic hydrogen into intimate contact with the cavity, 
we discussed using thin Pd foils in stacks separated by nanopowders to provide 
the cavities- the intimate contact is the difficulty as nature will reform the 
h2 almost instantly – One interesting concept we turned up was melting the 
material and “wicking” it into the space between the foils but combining the 
membrane and the cavities into one alloy foil sounds better. I still would want 
to stack the foils so you force the fractional states to do full transitions 
between each layer.  · That is the other possibility that this is 
another manefestation of · Relativistic Cavities--they are accelerating 
the fusions that happen all the · time anyway!!! 
Yes, I have made this same suggestion.
 
Regards
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[Vo]:Need to find Raney-Type Alloy w/low melt-point.

2010-02-15 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Scott,
I believe Rayney is a brand name, skeletal is the generic name 
for sponge like formations in a catalyst. They avoid the Casimir attraction 
that opposes a one step construction of a skeletal catalyst by first forming an 
alloy between a hard and soft metal and then leaching out the softer metal in a 
second step. Plain atmosphere diffusing inside these leached out cavities can 
ignite in the more energetic (smaller pore) skeletal catalysts.  - pyrophoric-

Regards
Fran


Re: [Vo]:More-energetic Blue-shifted safer processed Raney

2010-02-15 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence


On 02/13/2010 11:19 PM, Francis X Roarty wrote:
 Scott,
 
 The EM drive link is
 http://www.universetoday.com/2008/10/09/is-the-impossible-emdrive-possible/
 
  
 
  
 
 *[snip] Actually, the untreated powdered alloy is pyrophoric, but once it has 
 been *
 
 *treated with sodium hydroxide, I believe it is much safer. It can be
 bought in *
 
 *this form.[/snip]*
 
 * *
 
 From wiki: Raney nickel is produced when a block of nickel-aluminium
 alloy is treated with concentrated sodium hydroxide
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hydroxide. This treatment, called
 activation, dissolves most of the aluminium out of the alloy. The
 porous structure left behind has a large surface area, which gives high
 catalytic activity. The ratio of nickel to aluminium is around 1 for the
 original material used by Raney, and may vary from about 1 to 4.
 
 Please forward any links Regarding the sale of” unactivated”  Rayney
 Nickel . I did look into this previously intending to use Drano to
 activate but maybe I got bad information.

I haven't been following this, but this sure sounds wrong.

Drano is a mixture of sodium hydroxide, sodium nitrate, and aluminum
fragments, if I recall correctly.  That's why it reacts so vigorously
when you just add water.  It's not even close to being pure sodium
hydroxide.  (Don't believe Wiki Answers on this one, they're wrong.)

Pick up a package of lye at any painting supply store, it'll be a lot
closer to what you want -- and it'll probably be safer to handle, as well.



 
  
 
 I don’t follow your logic in this [snip] These so-called Virtual Photons do 
 not last long enough to hit a wall and 
 
 leave the cavity.  The only photons coming out of the cavity formed just 
 inside 
 
 the event horizon. [/snip]
 
  Where did the event horizon come from? Do your virtual photons remain 
 spatial or can I apply my relativisticl interpertation? I am presently 
 reviewing similar dialogue with Thomas Prevenslik under Sci Blog replies  
 http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/blog/7200-hydrino-patent-based-catalyst-denied-while-later-patent-relativistic-hydrogen-based-casimir-cavity-granted.html
  or see snips below
 
 Regards
 
  
 
 Fran
 
  
 
  
 
 From Blog :
 
 Fran and I do not agree on the Casimir effect. Specifically, I do not
 believe the zero point field (ZPF) exists as Casimir claimed in 1949.
 
 We know the zero point energy (ZPE) for atoms and molecules exists. But
 there is absolutely no evidence for the ZPF. Today, astronomers infer
 the existence of the ZPF (or dark energy) based on an expanding
 Universe. But this is fallacious because the redshift that Hubble
 measured was most like due to absorption of the galaxy photon in
 submicron cosmic dust and not due to the Doppler effect. See
 www.nanoqed.org http://www.nanoqed.org at 2009 under Cosmology and
 Cosmic Dust, paper Dark Enegy and Cosmic Dust
 
 So that brings us to what is being measured in the Casimir experiments
 today. Fran says I have argued that thermodynamics in combination with
 electrostatic charging is the source of the Casimir effect. That was my
 first attempt to explain the Casimir effect without the ZPF.
 
 Since then, I have made the argument that the Casimir effect is caused
 by the thermal blackbody radiation emitted in the FIR by atoms in the
 surface of Casimir's plates. Electrostatic charging is not invoked. By
 this theory, wavelengths L  2G are excluded from the gap G as Casimir
 asumed. But unlike Casimnr and his followers, I do not throw away the
 excluded EM energy from the gap. Instead, I conserve the excluded EM
 energy by creating UV and higher energy photons having wavelength L = 2G
 in the gap. In effect, the gap acts as a FIR frequency up-conversion
 device as required by the conservation of energy. Unfortunately, Casimir
 did not conserve EM energy and this has been going on by his followers
 for over a half century.
 
 The EM energy U in the gap depends on the kT energy of the surface atoms
 and is constant as the gap G changes. For N surface and subsurface
 atoms, U ~ NkT, and therefore there is no Casimir force F in the
 conventional sense, i.e., F = dU/dG = 0. However the EM energy density
 U/G^3 is not constant. It is the gradient of EM energy density at the
 surfaces in combination with the polarizability of the surface atoms
 that produces equal and opposite force on the gap surfaces. See Ibid,
 Casimir Effect, paper Casimir Update.
 
 Unlike Casimir followers, I only believe in what is known to exist -
 blackbody thermal radiation. I leave the ZPF to the philosophers.
 
 Thomas Prevenslik
 
  My Reply
 
 
   either model works
 
 Thomas, nice to hear from you, I have no problem with your
 interpretation, the end result is the same as long as long as the
 virtual photons are inexhaustable. You mention  /I do not throw away
 the excluded EM energy from the gap. Instead, I conserve the excluded EM
 energy by creating UV and higher energy photons 

Re: [Vo]:If U239 Plutonium, Does Bismuth + Neutrons to Polonium (Yikes!!!)

2010-02-15 Thread Terry Blanton
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 his last known email address hoping that he might stick his welcomed
 nose in to update us and maybe share a story from the Dimebox(?)
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[Vo]:Raney-Type Alloy w/low melt-point sintering

2010-02-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith

Sintered materials tend to have much larger gaps than their constituent 
particles.

 

I am trying to make cavities, most of which are less 20 nm and many less than 
10nm and some all the way down to the size of a single atom removed.  Plus I 
want a relatively thick cavity wall--as much as is practical.

 

For LPD, I only need to do this on the surface of one side. 

 

For the Relativistic-Cavity thing, we should probably find or make a suitable 
alloy, freeze it with liquid Nitrogen, crush and grind it into a fine powder 
then treat it with the leaching agent so there will be a large number of 
cavities available to soak up the Kr 81 gas.--unless someone has a better way 
to make nano-particles out of an alloyed metal.

 

(I am actually leary about using Kr 85, just in case this process catalyzes 
nuclear reactions better than we are expecting.)

 

Scott

 


 


From: jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Need to find Raney-Type Alloy w/low melt-point.
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:55:21 -0800





 
 To Group, I need to find two metals to make a Raney-Type porous metal sponge. 
  Usually this is done with Ni  Al, but they have very high melting points as 
 do all members of the Ni-Pd group.  
 
 
Why not start with nano-powder – compress it mildly and heat to the level of 
diffusion bonding, and thereby forget about leaching? 
 
When Raney nickel was invented, nanoparticles were unknown as a starting point. 
Thus the need to leach.
 
There are number of sources for nanoparticles, or you can buy the “black” 
(micron range) and grind it down by hand.
 
http://www.americanelements.co.uk/pdnp.html
 
I am told by a current practitioner (of Arata/Kitamura type experiments), that 
mortar-and-pestle hand grinding gives better results in the low nano size range 
(near 2 nm) – and at far less cost (use a fume hood as anything “nano” can be 
toxic, like asbestos).
 
Jones
 
 
  
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[Vo]:Using lasers to zap mosquitoes

2010-02-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I kid you not. See:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/using-lasers-to-zap-mosquitoes/

I once predicted CF-powered mechanical bats for this purpose, but this is
more elegant. I wonder what the range is.
QUOTES:

. . . After hundreds of mosquitoes (which were kept in the hotel bathroom
until showtime) were released into a glass tank, a laser tracked their
movements and slowly shot them down, leaving their carcasses scattered on
the bottom of the tank. While the demonstration was slowed down for public
viewing, Mr. Myhrvold said that normally the lasers could shoot down
anywhere between 50 to 100 mosquitoes per second.

Mr. Myhrvold played a slow-motion recorded video that showed what happened
to a representative mosquito. As the insect flew, a sudden light beam struck
it, disintegrating parts of its body into a plume of smoke. It fell, even as
its wings continued to beat. . . .

The breakthrough relied on understanding how the technology that guides the
precision of laser printing could be combined with the image-detecting
charge-coupled devices, or C.C.D.’s, used in digital cameras and powerful
image processing software. Mr. Myhrvold said he thinks there is particular
potential in the Blu-ray laser technology, because blue lasers are more
powerful than red ones and there are a lot of them being made cheaply now.

He estimates that the devices could potentially cost as little $50,
depending on the volume of demand. . . .

The laser detection is so precise that it can specify the species, and even
the gender, of the mosquito being targeted. “The women are bigger. They beat
at a lower frequencies,” Mr. Myhrvold said. Since it is only the female
mosquitoes who bite humans, for the sake of efficiency, his system would
leave the males alone.


- Jed


RE: [Vo]:Using lasers to zap mosquitoes

2010-02-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jed sez:

I kid you not. See:

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/using-lasers-to-zap-mosquitoes/

...

Thanks Jed!

It's nice to see that SDI has found a new purpose, a new enemy.

Regards

Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks 



Re: [Vo]:Using lasers to zap mosquitoes

2010-02-15 Thread Alexander Hollins
The inventer is missing the real use of the device.  He's invented the
Pap Blaster!  Its a device from a novel by Spider Robinson that tracks
camera lenses, and zaps them with light lasers, preventing them from
taking coherent pictures.  It was sold to celebrities to foil paparazi
(hence the name) and made a main character rich.  He then used the
same technology to track eyeballs as they moved through cicadians
motions, putting in images, thus creating a sort of hologram
individualized to each person.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:55 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
 Jed sez:

 I kid you not. See:

 http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/using-lasers-to-zap-mosquitoes/

 ...

 Thanks Jed!

 It's nice to see that SDI has found a new purpose, a new enemy.

 Regards

 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks





[Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?

2010-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Naudin's Solid State Generator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDbIrKIVXs

How do you explain this?

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Re: [Vo]:Naudin's Feb. 14 Update

2010-02-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 11:33 AM 2/15/2010, Harry Veeder wrote:
Feb. 14 update Naudin finds the current through 
the toroïdal stator coils does not change when a 
load is applied: 
http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm 
(towards the bottom of the page) Harry


Very nice page. Naudin provides a lot of great 
detail. However, what might be the most important detail is missing.


Let's suppose he's correct, that the current 
doesn't change under load. (If it changes, it 
doesn't change much; the problem is that only a 
little power escaping into the rotor might be enough.)


He is showing about 0.4 amp through the coil, but 
that's a meter, showing average current, I'd 
think. AC. Could be tricky. Average power, 
roughly 5 watts. (It's 12 volts, apparently).


Now, the load is a pickup coil with high-current 
LEDs connected to it. What do they do? They 
blink! At much lower frequency than the rotation 
speed, apparently. What's happening?


My guess is that the rotational speed is 
oscillating so that the LED forward voltage is 
alternately blocking current and passing it. 
Passing current, there is a load, the rotor slows 
down, and blocking it, the rotor speeds up. How 
much power is being drawn off? The LEDs will only 
show light when the voltage is above the forward 
drop, so those LEDs, even when they appear to be 
on, are actually only showing flashing (4 times 
per rotation? For how long?) Or is the circuit 
there more complex, did I miss something?


Here is the problem. Steorn claims that input 
power and output power are not actually related. 
That increasing input power will not increase 
output power. That may well be true. The input 
power switches the magnetic attractiveness of the 
ferrite cores for the permanent magnets on the 
rotor. It takes a certain amount of power to do 
that. This switching allows work to be done on 
the rotor by the permanent magnets, but how much work?


Nothing that Naudin has shown so far indicates 
that there is an energy gain, at all. It would 
only take a very small fraction of the coil power 
to be diverted from generating heat to applying 
some torque to the rotor and thus doing work on it to accumulate energy.


It looks to me like only a very small amount of 
power is being drawn off by the pickup coil and 
dumped through the LEDs, compared to the power 
being dissipated in the toriod circuit. The 
current in the LEDs may be perhaps 40 mA, peak, I 
can't tell. Suppose that's peak current. There is 
only that much current for a fraction of the duty 
cycle. And the voltage across the LEDs may be 
about 0.5 volt. 5 watts in, what, maybe 10 milliwatts average out? More? Less?


That the input current does not seem to vary with 
the load tells us practically nothing except that 
this is not an ordinary motor. It could be one 
that, from the configuration, transfers a small 
and fixed amount of power to the rotor energy. So 
under load the rotor slows down, when the load is 
removed, it speeds back up, but the input current does not vary. So?


It takes X power to switch the coil on and off. 
That does not vary with rotational velocity, it 
is, so to speak, a fixed cost. Spending that 
fixed cost allows the core to be used to power a 
permanent magnet motor, but it would appear that 
there is only so much power that could be 
developed from this attraction. Build the thing 
differently, with bigger cores and bigger 
toroids, you could develop more power. But still, 
it would appear, not much power. Steorn is 
claiming twice as much power in the load as in 
the toroid circuit. That seems preposterous from 
the Naudin work. It seems preposterous from 
everything Steorn has shown (i.e., why are 
very-low-friction magnetic bearings needed?)


So far, no measurement of actual heat dissipation 
in the toroid circuit, such hand-waving about no 
back EMF. If there were really accurate 
calorimetry of the toroid circuit, and then 
accurate measurement of load power as well, we'd 
see if there was any extra energy. Steorn is 
promising calorimetry data by the end of 
February, as I recall. From Naudin, much better 
data than from Steorn, but the critical data 
(power in the toroid circuit and power in the 
load circuit) is missing still. All he has shown 
is that there is some power in the load circuit, 
but not how much, and that toroid circuit current 
does not appear to vary with load. But how much 
is that load? Looks like it's tiny to me! -- compared to toroid power.









RE: [Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?

2010-02-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith

I don't see the problem?  Since when is it supprising if alternating current or 
pulsed dc from one coil induces a current in another coil?

 

Scott
 
 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:45:43 -0800
 From: hlvee...@yahoo.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: [Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?
 
 Naudin's Solid State Generator.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDbIrKIVXs
 
 How do you explain this?
 
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Re: [Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?

2010-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder
I have been told the toroidal geometry of the coil means its magnetic field is 
completely contained inside the coil, so how can it influence another coil?
Harry




From: Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 12:37:00 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?

 
I don't see the problem?  Since when is it supprising if alternating current 
or pulsed dc from one coil induces a current in another coil?
 
Scott
 
 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:45:43 -0800
 From: hlvee...@yahoo.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: [Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?
 
 Naudin's Solid State Generator.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDbIrKIVXs
 
 How do you explain this?
 
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[Vo]:Torroidal Coil?

2010-02-15 Thread Wm. Scott Smith

A Torroidal Coil? Do you mean the coil is like a wire that has been folded in 
half and then wrapped into a coil?

 

Scott


 


Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:59:11 -0800
From: hlvee...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com




I have been told the toroidal geometry of the coil means its magnetic field is 
completely contained inside the coil, so how can it influence another coil?
Harry






From: Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 12:37:00 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?



I don't see the problem?  Since when is it supprising if alternating current or 
pulsed dc from one coil induces a current in another coil?
 
Scott
 
 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:45:43 -0800
 From: hlvee...@yahoo.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: [Vo]:Naudin's Solid State Generator?
 
 Naudin's Solid State Generator.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDbIrKIVXs
 
 How do you explain this?
 
 Harry
 
 
 
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Re: [Vo]:Naudin's Feb. 14 Update

2010-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:



 
 Here is the problem. Steorn claims that input power and output power are not 
 actually related. That increasing input power will not increase output power. 

Is that what they meant by not related?
I think they meant if the operation of the coil can be engineered
to consume less power you will get the same power out for a
given switching frequency.


 That may well be true. The input power switches the magnetic attractiveness 
 of 
 the ferrite cores for the permanent magnets on the rotor. It takes a certain 
 amount of power to do that. This switching allows work to be done on the 
 rotor 
 by the permanent magnets, but how much work?
 

 Harry



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Re: [Vo]:Torroidal Coil?

2010-02-15 Thread Harry Veeder


Wm. Scott Smith wrote:
 
A Torroidal Coil? Do you mean the coil is like a wire that has been folded in 
half and then wrapped into a coil?
 
Scott

here is a good illustration:

http://web.ncf.ca/ch865/englishdescr/ToroidalCoil.html

Harry



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