Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:53:19 -0800: Hi, > >--- Mike Carrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The 2K+/H or 2K+/D reactions found by Mills may be >> present in all these >> cells. Why it would act in the reported way is >> unclear. > >Is there a hydrino formation m

Re:Physics today 1/25/05 feder

2005-01-26 Thread RC Macaulay
Steve, I take no offense to your remarks. I understand you are a newsman and want all the information you can get.   I gave you a source for the  evidence.   Richard   <>

Re: Physics today 1/25/05 feder

2005-01-26 Thread Steven Krivit
No, I don't. I guess I approach things differently. I don't make statements about the cold fusion field unless I have evidence to back them up. At 07:35 PM 1/26/2005 -0600, you wrote: Steve, I may pose the question.. do you have any evidence they are NOT ?   The industrial world is busy, ask Si

Re: Physics today 1/25/05 feder

2005-01-26 Thread RC Macaulay
Steve, I may pose the question.. do you have any evidence they are NOT ?   The industrial world is busy, ask Siemems, Toshiba or Boeing/GE   Richard   <>

Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Terry Blanton
--- Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mizuno is unfamiliar with Mills and would not list a > hydrino event among > the likely causes. The way the pyrex broke implies a rapid overpressure event. Wasn't that a stopper a good pressure relief valve? I think that was one helluva shockwave!

Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Terry Blanton
--- Mike Carrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 2K+/H or 2K+/D reactions found by Mills may be > present in all these > cells. Why it would act in the reported way is > unclear. Is there a hydrino formation mechanism which would result in a "bright white flash"? __

Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Nick Palmer
test - please ignore

Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: > Possible Causes > > The vessel was old and may have had a scratch on the inner surface. That does not account for the initiating flash under the surface of the electrolyte. No, it does not. The event happened in an instant, there is no video, and I do not think Mizuno is ful

Re: Will future war be fought over energy?

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The James Bond movie, The man with the golden gun, showed that a solar cell with 95 percent efficiency had been invented by 1973, but is kept classified, so that we can be assured that solar cell efficiency will improve . . . Yo, Baron: That was a MOVIE. It was FAKE. All

Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: > [I will upload an Acrobat version of this report that includes photographs.] > > Accident Report > > Tadahiko Mizuno > Division of Quantum Energy Engineering, > Research group of Nuclear System Engineering > Hokkaido University > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On January 24, 2005 at ar

Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Thomas N. Claytor
Jed, do you have Vinceno's email ? Tom. Vincenzo Iorio, who is also doing glow discharge experiments, made the following comments: "I believe that the explosion is due to an accumulation of gas (H2 and O2) . . . I also want to recommend to everybody to be very careful to the gases that are prod

Re: Accident photo uploaded

2005-01-26 Thread Steven Krivit
The radial pattern of the bottom of they pyrex is interesting.

Accident photo uploaded

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have not got around to uploading the report, but I thought people here might want to see the high-resolution digital photograph of the accident. It is uploaded here: http://www.lenr-canr.org/images/MizunoAccident.JPG The object in the left foreground is the Pyrex safety door on the incubator,

Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark S Bilk wrote: This event could be very significant.  If the estimate of 2-3 cc of hydrox gas mixture is right, it doesn't seem that this could have been the source of the explosion. That does seem odd. This estimate is based upon the volume of headspace in the cell, and the assumption that t

Re: Physics today 1/25/05-feder

2005-01-26 Thread Steven Krivit
RC, I, like Jed, question your assertions. While I agree with you that the Japanese are taking this more seriously than the U.S., your claims seem greatly exaggerated. Do you have any evidence to back them up or to demonstrate how you might know this? At 10:13 AM 1/26/2005 -0500, you wrote: RC Ma

Wait a sec . . . What about the "funnel"?

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I just realized that with the equipment Mizuno has been using lately, the oxygen and hydrogen cannot mix during the early phase of the glow discharge experiment. There is a funnel over the cathode to prevent this. The funnel was installed to prevent contamination because the effluent gas is sent

Re: Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Mark S Bilk
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911 Thank goodness Mizuno and his guest were not seriously injured; I hope their hearing recovers. This event could be very significant. If the estimate of 2-3 cc of hydrox gas mixture is right, it doesn't seem that this

RE: Will future war be fought over energy?

2005-01-26 Thread John Steck
All wars are for control over local resources.  China's explosive growth and large population is unsustainable with their own sovereign resources (raw materials, energy, food, etc).  Their strategic concerns are valid.  The US influence is significant and there is historical precedence.  Set

Re: Will future war be fought over energy?

2005-01-26 Thread Mike Carrell
  - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Will future war be fought over energy? In a message dated 1/24/05 11:50:07 AM Pacific Stand

Re: Physics today 1/25/05-feder

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
RC Macaulay wrote: The USA programs are unpublished because they are under NSA guidelines. The Japanese are working at warp speed on the same within their Universities as well as their industrial labs. I doubt that. No Japanese researcher I know has heard a word about such programs. If there are

Re: Physics Today 1/25/05 - Feder

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mitchell Swartz wrote: Second, some of the very papers which contain controls and time-integration are not present at the censored (and misnamed) LENR-CANR.org site. Well, in that case, whoever wrote these very papers should upload them somewhere else -- or submit them to LENR-CANR.org. The site

Accident Report from Mizuno

2005-01-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
[I will upload an Acrobat version of this report that includes photographs.] Accident Report Tadahiko Mizuno Division of Quantum Energy Engineering, Research group of Nuclear System Engineering Hokkaido University E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On January 24, 2005 at around 4:00 p.m. an explosion occurr

Re: Will future war be fought over energy?

2005-01-26 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 1/24/05 11:50:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ."    China believes the U.S. military will disrupt China's energy imports in any conflict over Taiwan, and sees the United States as an unpredictable country that violates others' sovereignty and want