All,
The signal/noise ratio on the various Joe Cell groups aint great at the
moment, but I thought that vorts may find (some of) the following
interesting.
There are four files below, recently posted to the Y! JoeCells2 group by Tom
Kramer. I asked Tom's permission to repost them here, which
A bit short on accuracy there, Patrick. :-)
AIR COMPOSITION:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-composition-d_212.html
AIR PROPERTIES:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-properties-d_156.html
From NASA, SOME BASICS:
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/compexp.html
NASA'S
Now that you have the basics, Patrick, go to the
OTTO CYCLE and PlugInThe Numbers.
Vary , AMBIENT COMBUSTION TEMPERATURE and PRESSURE, ONLY.
As you can see at 300 K Ambient, 0.25 Atmosphere Ambient(Intake Manifold) Pressure,
500 K Combustion Temp at a 7.0 compression ratio, you can
Suck Cold
Using these calculators for the Otto or Diesel Cycle,
see what substituting a 4 Liter (half full) Jug of Beer for the Joe Cell
will do pulling a 0.25 Atmosphere Vacuum on it.
http://members.aol.com/engware/calc3.htm
The Inversion Temperature:
" the 'normal' effect of cooling when a gas
Patrick Vessey/Tom Kramer wrote..
Now it is also important to understand the SHAPE of water and its
relatedhydrogen bonding. Under normal conditions the two hydrogen
atoms are atabout a 105o angle to each other (not 90o) due to the fact that
similarcharges oppose each other. This angle,
-Original Message-
From: Robin van Spaandonk
IOW every .1875/1.44 minutes (7.8 seconds) of charge time will take
you one mile.
.1855 *kWh / 1.44 kW = 7.8 minutes (not seconds) :(
LOL! I *thought* that looked wrong! I shouldn't mess with power after
a bottle of Merlot. ;-)
My Theory, Patrick.
When you electrolyze in the Joe Cell with the low pressure water
vapor as a carrier for unrecombined OH and O Radicals
from the Anode Surfaces and H3O - H Radicals from the
Cathode Surfaces you get a "Brown's Gas Over-Unity"
heat benefit in the engine cylinder that you
When electric cars are developed, the operating costs are going to be
compelling for households with two or more vehicles and businesses that
operate
fleets of cars locally. Even with $3 gasoline, electric vehicles are
going to be much cheaper to operate per mile. The obstacle will be the
Steve Ryan's water fuel. What is it about being downunder?
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=7009
13288n=2
Terry
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Jones Beene wrote.
I think it would indeed be helpful to document all of
the possible theories of operation - even though,
AFAIK there is no well-documented evidence that any of
the many designs alternatives works in a robust way.
Steve Ryan's water fuel. What is it about being downunder?
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=7009
13288n=2
http://tinyurl.com/nxnsw
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I'm a great believer in total independence from the grid where
transporation is concerned. The essence of the automobile - and this is a
psychological factor - is this total independence (physically total, that
is; we're still dependent on the oil companies and their nice
suppliers). In
Something to do with being upside down for
extended periods, perhaps? :-)
Fred
hohlrauml asks.
Steve Ryan's water fuel. What is it about being downunder?
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid=7009
13288n=2
Terry
That is the engine which is definitely burning
crankcase oil as the fuel. There is a long version
from the 60 Minutes program with a professor being
called in - who found the *real* source of energy.
Test were done using the standard exhaust methods and
the identical amount of carbon is being
Jones wrote:
...
Obviously no current will flow under these conditions
of around one+ volt - were it not for the remarkable
ability of a piston engine to draw a powerful partial
vacuum extremely fast, and create this
Hi Fred/all,
A bit short on accuracy there, Patrick. :-)
By posting Tom's comments, I wasn't intending to suggest my support for
them.
Rather, I was taking a bit of a pointy stick and pushing it into the vort
nest :-)
I personally have seen nothing to convince me that Joe/similar cells
http://www.hippopress.com/060504/cover.html
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P.
At 12:23 PM 5/4/2006 -0700, you wrote:
http://www.hippopress.com/060504/cover.html
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I think it was the humorist Dave
In Praise of Idleness
By Bertrand Russell
[1932]
Like most of my generation, I was brought up on the saying: 'Satan finds
some mischief for idle hands to do.' Being a highly virtuous child, I
believed all that I was told,
Hi,
Read the last paragraph. :)
http://www.physorg.com/news65961016.html
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
Competition provides the motivation,
Cooperation provides the means.
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