My oh my, what a heated discussion! I hate to disappoint you
Walter, but I don't see myself as the savior of cold fusion,
or anything else, for that matter. I agree with Keith. You
should try the experiment yourself. I doubt if my experiment
or it's results are unique. I did this trial myself
Jones,
There have been some good practical ideas for improvement of the
basic cell - already appearing in many of these posts, but often
you have to read between the lines, to move forward towards an
actual design. Here is more specific detail from this one
observer.
The difficulty in
Dear Vortex,
Below text mentions X voltage in increments but there does not seem to be a Current Meaurement!
What happened to the other part of the figure to be able to compute energy, ie., in WATTS?
Thank you for the article. Can we find out the current measured.
La Petomaine
This goes a long way towards explaining why the combined
Baking Soda-Borax increased the cell current by nearly 400 times
over what it was using distilled (CO2 laced) water.
Since Hydrogen Peroxide HO-OH decomposes in alkali, the OH
should come off the SS plate surfaces. Possibly the release
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From: Frederick Sparber
The current stabilized at ~ 800 milliamperes with lots
of gas production inflating a balloon, which my
able-bodied lackey stored away and refuses to light until
maybe on the 4th of July but he has the unit set up on a vehicle
ready for a road
Terry wrote:
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From: Frederick Sparber
The current stabilized at ~ 800 milliamperes with lots
of gas production inflating a balloon, which my
able-bodied lackey stored away and refuses to light until
maybe on the 4th of July but he has the unit set up on a
Hey, Bill,
Looks like you got yourself a STD that's using your contact list. :-)
Terry
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From: Eloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:23:52 +0400
Subject: Never better cant be f0und.
Hello my friend!
Please open your mind for a
Actually 2 H2 + O2 2 H2O has about 14 reaction steps.
http://www.cheresources.com/reactionkinetics3.shtml
"Another important consideration is the formation of chain reactions. The basic premise of chain reaction mechanisms is also that free radicals play a leading role in the destruction
Coming to a theatre near you:
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
The electric car is not for everybody. It can only meet the needs of
90% of the population.
- Ed Begley, Jr. in the trailer.
more here:
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article623261.ece
Terry
Since were throwing around the names of - shall we say,
controversial personalities like Bob Lazar ... don't forget the
original (not in time but in independently verified successful
demonstrations). And it is not 'Joe' nor Yull Brown nor Archie
Blue but instead is a guy with even more
From Terry:
Coming to a theatre near you:
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
The electric car is not for everybody. It can only meet the needs of
90% of the population.
- Ed Begley, Jr. in the trailer.
more here:
See:
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ZhangXontheexplo.pdf
Zhang, X., et al. On the Explosion in a Deuterium/Palladium
Electrolytic System. in Third International Conference on Cold
Fusion, Frontiers of Cold Fusion. 1992. Nagoya Japan:
Universal Academy Press, Inc., Tokyo, Japan.
- Jed
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
Since were throwing around the names of - shall we say, controversial
personalities like Bob Lazar ...
Here's an interesting analysis of Meyer's patent:
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/Patent.html
I got this link from:
And since I was calling the Throttle Body a carburetor.
Boy am I behind the times.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/sub_care_sat/1272341.html?page=1;
c=y
Cleaning Throttle Bodies
Terry wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
Since were throwing around the names of -
Terry wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
Since were throwing around the names of - shall we say, controversial
personalities like Bob Lazar ...
Here's an interesting analysis of Meyer's patent:
http://www.waterfuelcell.org/Patent.html
All you have to do is
Title: Re: Scientists? We note voltage..but no mention of current
I don't know anything about this experiment,
but current is not essential for calculating the power.
P = (V^2)/R
since P =VI and I = V/R
Harry
john herman wrote:
Dear Vortex,
Below text mentions X voltage in
Excerpts from: Electronics World Wireless World (Jan 1991) also:
Infinite Energy 19:(1998) Obituary, and KeelyNet File MEYER1.ASC
and the famous UK panel evaluation, which Frank Grimer will
sympathize with.
Eye-witness accounts suggest that US inventor Stanley Meyer
developed an electric cell
Hi Jones,
My post was prompted by my interest in anecdotal evidence of the
functioning of the Joe cell. There is a school of thought that
it is 'merely' an ultra-efficient low voltage electrolysis cell
However, such a theory is at odds with reports of the
actual physical
Has ANYONE ever replicated Meyer's results? Even the Puharich patent
doesn't seem as dramatic.
OT, I feel more strongly about the work of Paul Brown - who, it appears
to me, was far more rigorous and publically demonstrated than any
ZPE/free energy
enthusiast.
Yet, I never hear about anyone
As usual, Jones' timing is 'interesting', to say the least.
Earlier today, Dave Lawton posted a file (MeyerRep.pdf) to the JoesCell2 Y!
group, which is claimed to be a replication of Meyer's demonstration
electrolyser (see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoesCell2/message/2472).
I've not yet had
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From: Terry
http://www.physorg.com/news67796415.html
Russian scientists have invented a battery that can capture energy not
only from the sun, but also from the stars, the head of a research
institute at the Dubna Nuclear Institute, near Moscow, said.
The
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From: Patrick Vessey
As usual, Jones' timing is 'interesting', to say the least.
Earlier today, Dave Lawton posted a file (MeyerRep.pdf) to the
JoesCell2 Y! group, which is claimed to be a replication of
Meyer's demonstration electrolyser
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Akira Kawasaki)
[Original Message]
From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6/2/2006 2:19:32 PM
Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday June 2, 2006
WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 2 Jun 06 Washington, DC
1. ADDICTION: ALCOHOL
Given the way electrostatic charge can accumulate on
moving vehicles maybe Hamish Robertson is getting closer to
the facts:
http://www.thejoecell.com/
The most likely place for accumulated charge to settle is
at the ~ 6,000 square centimeter Helmholtz Layer Interface
of the
BTW, anyone have a small Van De Graaff that could be
used to put some static charge on a Joe Cell?
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From: Frederick Sparber
To: vortex-l
Sent: 6/2/2006 7:43:12 PM
Subject: RE: Helmholtz Layer electrode
Given the way electrostatic charge can accumulate on
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