Since were throwing around the names of - shall we say,
controversial personalities like Bob Lazar ... don't forget the
original (not in time but in independently verified successful
demonstrations). And it is not 'Joe' nor Yull Brown nor Archie
Blue but instead is a guy with even more baggage, but also with
real scientific credentials, and some 'hint' of real proof:
Stanley Meyer.
Without getting into the sordid details of that episode in
alternative-energy, and the psychological problems of a
tormented-soul, here is a fairly authoritative report, supposedly
independent, from an expert in electrolysis who witnessed one of
the successful demos (other demos were apparently not successful):
"A second cell carried nine stainless steel double tube cell units
and generated much more gas. A sequence of photographs was taken
showing gas production at milliamp levels. When the voltage was
turned up to its peak value, the gas then poured off at a very
impressive level.
"We did notice that the water at the top of the cell slowly became
discolored with a pale cream and dark brown precipitate, almost
certainly the effects of the chlorine in the heavily chlorinated
tap water on the stainless steel tubes used as "excitors".
[Meyer elsewhere stated that the water was not chlorinated and
should be either distilled or demineralized, but.... what did he
know?]
"He was demonstrating hydrogen gas production at milliamp and
kilovolt levels."
[This high voltage (~2000 v) is in contrast to the Joe Cell (12 v)
and to normal electrolysis (~ 2.5 v) and indicates an
electrostatic modality, which actually may be more consistent with
the electrical input being a "tickler" for the Helmholtz surface
reaction]
"The most remarkable observation is that the cell and all its
metal pipework remained quite cold to the touch, even after more
than twenty minutes of operation. The splitting mechanism clearly
evolves little heat in sharp contrast to electrolysis where the
electrolyte warms up quickly."
"The practical demonstration of the Meyer cell appears
substantially more convincing than the para-scientific jargon
which has been used to explain it. The inventor himself talks
about a distortion and polarization of the water molecule
resulting in the H:OH bonding tearing itself apart under the
electrostatic potential gradient, of a resonance within the
molecule which amplifies the effect."
"Apart from the copious hydrogen/oxygen gas evolution and the
minimal temperature rise within the cell, witnesses also report
that water within the cell disappears rapidly, presumably into its
component parts and as an aerosol from the myriad of tiny bubbles
breaking the surface of the cell.
Meyer claims to have run a converted VW on hydrogen/oxygen mixture
for the last four years using a chain of six cylindrical cells."
END of quoted excerpts (original can be found on Keelynet)
The biggest departure from Meyer's work by the Joe-Cell proponents
(more like a degeneration from more advanced predecessor work) is
the sharply lower voltage. Given the Meyer success (occasional at
least), however, it would be wise for any experiment to try to
accommodate both high voltage and low voltage operation in the
same type of cell. However, to his credit, Joe did make on big
advance over Meyer.
Query: The one advance made by Joe could very well be the long
*pretreatment* of the water in a DC electric field ... causing one
to wonder what would have happened had Meyer known about that
particular detail ... and/or also causing the observer to wonder
how long it will take for someone else to re-connect all the
dots... not just these tow but all the dots.
We have Stan, Joe, Archie, Yull and others - all of which
prior-art has been hitting around the edges of the 'bulls-eye'
which is ultra-efficient electrolysis . IMHO, given that necessity
is the mother-of-invention, and Hubbert has provided the nedssity,
it is only a matter of time before someone refocused the sights
and scores a direct hit...
Apparently the mother-of-invention is romantically attracted to
these 'characters' ... who as Pierre sez ... are mostly Pas-Normal
?
Jones
I should phonetically explain that attempted cross-cultural pun,
but not today....