Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread John Berry
No Kyle, your mistaken.There is no way it can work with a stationary reference frame as you say.The idea behind it being unable to accelerate and I believe it is just a theory is that ACCELERATION will cause a Doppler like effect and it will no longer be in resonance hence lower Q and lower EM boun

Re: [Vo]: Re: Excess hydrogen without much excess heat

2006-09-15 Thread Wesley Bruce
Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beene wrote: JR As far as I know he does. He has not described the O2 in detail. It is not stochiometric; there is extra H2 because the O2 from electrolysis at the anode is separated out by the inverted funnel. If it is not stochiometric then we can conclude that

Re: [Vo]: FW: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday September 15, 2006

2006-09-15 Thread Christopher Arnold
Religious devotion to good or Evil?   CA   Akira Kawasaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sept. 15, 2006> [Original Message]From: What's New <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 9/15/2006 2:23:49 PMSubject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday September 15, 2006WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Pa

[Vo]: FW: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday September 15, 2006

2006-09-15 Thread Akira Kawasaki
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2006-09-15 Thread Terry Blanton
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1869000,00.html Siberian thaw to speed up global warming The release of trapped greenhouse gases is pushing the world past the point of no return on climate change.

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread Kyle R. Mcallister
- Original Message - From: John Berry To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor What you should note is that this device if it works at all MUST violate the conservation of energy, there is no way round it, i

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread Colin Quinney
FWIW, I think Robin has the correct interpretation here, much better than the reporter(s). Not just professional scientists do that but even reporters filter or interpret according to their own "world views". Engineers do it. Technicians do it. In fact, we all it Even part time tinkerers lik

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2006-09-15 Thread Jones Beene
Premise of this quasi-Utopian vision: If the USA were to undertake a concerted national effort, we could eliminate all oil imports in five years and fully and completely extricate ourselves from all political and military involvement in those hostile parts of the world which have become our w

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread leaking pen
if its based on difference in wave velocity, wouldnt stationary be based on the surrounding radiation fields? and if so... now, uber amateur here, im einsteinian, in that, im great with theory, weak with mathematics, would two of these drives mounted at an angle to each other, say, a 90 between

RE: [Vo]: Robin

2006-09-15 Thread Remi Cornwall
Sorry Robin, that's rubbish below. I won't contribute to this thread if you can't get concrete in what you're thinking. You want cusp like changes in field lines from shaking magnets about at low speed? Go check JJ Thompson's construction for radiation of EM fields from a dipole (I might scan it in

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread John Berry
I suppose KWh is a poor unit of energy to use when my example only ran for a few seconds, so change to some other suitible measure of energy.On 9/15/06, John Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:No, Wesely is correct, it is an inertial anchor. (it could be used to push off or it could be used by moving

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread John Berry
No, Wesely is correct, it is an inertial anchor. (it could be used to push off or it could be used by moving it in the direction of travel and turning it on then bringing it to rest relative to the ship, or both)The reason acceleration is tricky is not because the energy is converted into motion bu

Re: [Vo]: Sincere amateurs: Steorn.net

2006-09-15 Thread Wesley Bruce
William Beaty wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Remi Cornwall wrote: These guys are *sincere* but mistaken amateurs. *This is not how science is conducted.* If they're keeping it secret, then it's not science, instead it's business (i.e. inventors, corporate R&D, etc.)As

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Wesley Bruce's message of Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:41:50 +1000: Hi, [snip] >A stationary emdrive can still push a ship in a given direction. It >becomes an inertial anchor. An inertial anchor resists being moved but >does not move itself. You can push down or back on it and it wont move