Re: [Vo]:Tooo obvious for Detroit?

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Carrell
I don't know if you guys have ever seriously encountered the realities of mass production and the mind-set that it *imposes*. For years I was involved in mechanization-robotics projects at RCA, principally with the manufacture of TV picture tubes. This a complex chemical/mechanical process that

RE: [Vo]:Tooo obvious for Detroit?

2008-03-05 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Mike, many thanks for this first-hand account of the practical environments in which manufacturing takes place. One of my 'hats' is that of an organizational performance specialist and I can say that your description rings absolutely true. When embedded in complex systems, especially ones that

[Vo]:I watched the video at Berkley

2008-03-05 Thread fznidarsic
I don't understand much about high energy string theory.???In my unification of Special Realtivity and quantum physics I rotated a vector through a third dimesion to add the element of time.? I liked the idea, presented in the lecture, that rotations through various dimensions produce many of

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Obama supports Obama

2008-03-05 Thread Standing Bear
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 18:18, Jed Rothwell wrote: This is cute. Readers here may have heard about this already, but there is a town in Japan called Obama which has gone gah-gah over Obama, the candidate. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/world/asia/19japan.html Candidate Wins

Re: [Vo]:I watched the video at Berkley

2008-03-05 Thread Standing Bear
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 10:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand much about high energy string theory.???In my unification of Special Realtivity and quantum physics I rotated a vector through a third dimesion to add the element of time.? I liked the idea, presented in the lecture,

[Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?

2008-03-05 Thread Jones Beene
--- Lawrence de Bivort wrote: My sense is that everyone does the best they can - all the time. It is perhaps the greatest tragedy of mankind that we can see better ways of doing things... One the contrary, Lawrence, I strongly believe that this is absolutely wrong... so wrong that it is not

[Vo]:I watched the video at Berkley

2008-03-05 Thread fznidarsic
Would it really?? Maybe it would also contain a quantum unit for space and the ability to expand and compress space as well. Standing Bear I don't know about any of that kind of stuff.? The video at Berkley really stressed the differences beween what I am saying and what the rest of world is

RE: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?

2008-03-05 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Jones, in fairness, your truncation does miss my point. Repost with the full quotation beyond the '...' and I'll be glad to respond. Lawrence -Original Message- From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:07 AM To: vortex Subject: [Vo]:Re: Tooo

[Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?

2008-03-05 Thread Jones Beene
--- Lawrence de Bivort wrote: Jones, in fairness, your truncation does miss my point. Repost with the full quotation beyond the '...' and I'll be glad to respond. Yes, no problem. I hate it when someone does this to me, even if I find myself agreeing with the strained point which they were

Re: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?

2008-03-05 Thread Mike Carrell
MC: Jones is a very sophistcated and clever man, author of thought-provoking posts. But he can missd the point in a very complex subject. People in general, including Jones, do the best they can within the vision that they have and organizations they work for. - snip ...even through in

[Vo]:Lutz discusses batteries

2008-03-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mr. Lutz of GM is in the news again. See: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/923 GM/Toyota Doubt Hydrogen; Mercedes/GM Go For Lithium in Standard Hybrid Quoting an article in the Wall Street Journal: Speaking at the Geneva auto show, GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz told

[Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?

2008-03-05 Thread Jones Beene
--- Richard: Howdy Vorts. It was not my intent to create an atmosphere of hostility among us by making the remark... Hey- no hostility. As usual on Vo, we are often arguing past each other anyway - while trying to squeeze in a relevant point or two ... which the other party doesn't necessarily