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R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Vorts, The USA has operated under the Keynesian economic model since FDR. This model ,as in all pyramid schemes, anticipates a sustained gravy train with biscuit wheels economy where everything purchased yesterday will be paid for in tomorrows dollars well.. err.. until.. there is no tomorrow. It's the mother of all pyramid schemes. John Kenneth Galbraith was a student of John Maynard Keynes, and a member of ,That Awful Man in the White House's brain trust. Someone pointed out that his economic ideas wouldn't work in the long run. Galbraith's reply was, in the long run we will all be dead. Galbraith died a few months back, his scheme out lived him. The deterioration of the US economy is following an exponential curve. With the rejection of the US dollar by oil producing countries, this deterioration has now gone into the straight up portion of the curve. It has been prophecized that a new source of energy will emerge in the next 5 months, which will allow America to balance it's trade deficit. Yah, Yah, and my pig plays the flute. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money
Lets see if I have this straight in my mind.. Bear Stearns is an investment bank.. not a bank, so they cannot borrow money from the Fed. JP Morgan-Chase is a bank.. so JP borrowed 15 bil and change from the NY Fed and loaned it to Bare nekid because it's too big to fail. Translation.. when there is $ 550 trillion dollars in funny money ( derivitives) in play out there in the great game, us good ole boys need to stick together of somebody's gonna thinks wez a bunch of crooks. Richard The USA has operated under the Keynesian economic model since FDR. This model ,as in all pyramid schemes, anticipates a sustained gravy train with biscuit wheels economy where everything purchased yesterday will be paid for in tomorrows dollars well.. err.. until.. there is no tomorrow. Thomas wrote, It's the mother of all pyramid schemes. John Kenneth Galbraith was a student of John Maynard Keynes, and a member of ,That Awful Man in the White House's brain trust. Someone pointed out that his economic ideas wouldn't work in the long run. Galbraith's reply was, in the long run we will all be dead. Galbraith died a few months back, his scheme out lived him. The deterioration of the US economy is following an exponential curve. With the rejection of the US dollar by oil producing countries, this deterioration has now gone into the straight up portion of the curve. It has been prophecized that a new source of energy will emerge in the next 5 months, which will allow America to balance it's trade deficit. Yah, Yah, and my pig plays the flute.
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- Original Message From: R C Macaulay because it's too big to fail. Translation.. when there is $ 550 trillion dollars in funny money (derivitives) in play out there ... Isn't too big to fail just another mantra (a lie which to big to admit-to so we make it into dogma) ... i.e a dogma of the modern religion which will become the NWO ?kinda like the other mantra: we're now a service economy and manufacturing jobs don't matter or international trade (sending our jobs to China) makes us all stronger. Think about it ! What a sadly warped version of Fordism ! ... and we are being seduced-by these NWO controllers, almost without a whimper. By acting as if they are really only pushing traditional religion, they have instead been installing just the opposite. How many Vorticians remember Fordism? It occurred to me recently, after talking to some college students, that one reason that such topics as the New World Order are not especially frightening to the younger generation goes back to the ultra-bland required reading lists in public schools these days. We seem to be systematically taking all levels of any uncomfortable - the literary angst out of the curriculum. For better or for worse. Huxley may no longer be on the reading list- too controversial, nor George Orwell nor Anthony Burgess, but instead we will find purple tripe by Alice Walker, and other noxious reading so espoused by Oprah, some of which can even win a Pulitzer. Go figure. Bottom line: We do not want to challenge young minds, or even suggest the very real prospect that the future may NOT be very enticing, nor even preferable to the recent past, do we? The World State envisioned by Huxley is the kind of a prototype for the NWO, except that they deal with the problem of demeaning work (i.e. manufacturing jobs) differently. After all, in the rejected novel, society is built around the principles of Henry Ford, who has become a Messianic figure in this brave dystopia. IOW - Instead of opting for a blatant lie, like the desirability of a service economy Huxley manages to morally justify a permanent (nonrobotic) working caste i.e. the deltas, which is the product of selective degenerate breeding, not computer technology. It is either curious or evidence of little foresight- that the possibility of 'thinking machines' was too far out there just 75 years ago,\ ... or else in hindsight, the installation of a hybridized human sub-class was deemed the most efficient way to handle the situation. Anyway one feature of the Fordism style of dystopia is that from birth, the various castes- alphas on down, are indoctrinated by recorded voices repeating the appropriate slogans for their group while they sleep (called hypnopaedia in BNW) which along with their version of prozac: soma becomes the new sacrament for class harmony. Wiki of course has an appropriate entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep-learning Although BNW is most definitely a dystopia, I am not entirely sure that in a few ways, it does not have features which are preferable to our modern evolving version of the NWO - at least as it is being promoted behind the scenes by Wall Street and by their most trusted allies, the Bush NeoCons. And yes, Robin, in this regard, Bush is probably a plant in that he is largely unaware of how his personal vision of Utopia has been distorted by these financial geniuses and string-pullers. That is to say, he was most likely chosen for the job Jones
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It gets worse. The administration has not only made government bigger, they have made government part of the free enterprise system by printing money to keep large financial institutions from failing. This means that the lose will be shared by everyone who holds dollars. In other words, currency debasement is used to save an incompetent part of the capitalistic system. In the past when its currency was debased by a country, the government made no pretense about free enterprise. Only in the US has the Bush administration found a way to fool the tax payers into believing this is a natural and necessary part of free enterprise. We are such fools! Ed R C Macaulay wrote: Lets see if I have this straight in my mind.. Bear Stearns is an investment bank.. not a bank, so they cannot borrow money from the Fed. JP Morgan-Chase is a bank.. so JP borrowed 15 bil and change from the NY Fed and loaned it to Bare nekid because it's too big to fail. Translation.. when there is $ 550 trillion dollars in funny money ( derivitives) in play out there in the great game, us good ole boys need to stick together of somebody's gonna thinks wez a bunch of crooks. Richard The USA has operated under the Keynesian economic model since FDR. This model ,as in all pyramid schemes, anticipates a sustained gravy train with biscuit wheels economy where everything purchased yesterday will be paid for in tomorrows dollars well.. err.. until.. there is no tomorrow. Thomas wrote, It's the mother of all pyramid schemes. John Kenneth Galbraith was a student of John Maynard Keynes, and a member of ,That Awful Man in the White House's brain trust. Someone pointed out that his economic ideas wouldn't work in the long run. Galbraith's reply was, in the long run we will all be dead. Galbraith died a few months back, his scheme out lived him. The deterioration of the US economy is following an exponential curve. With the rejection of the US dollar by oil producing countries, this deterioration has now gone into the straight up portion of the curve. It has been prophecized that a new source of energy will emerge in the next 5 months, which will allow America to balance it's trade deficit. Yah, Yah, and my pig plays the flute.
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United States Constitution (from wiki) Section 8 The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To borrow money on the credit of the United States; To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States; To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; To establish Post Offices and Post Roads; To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries; To constitute Tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court; To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations; To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; To provide and maintain a Navy; To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof. On 15/3/2008 11:40 AM, Edmund Storms wrote: It gets worse. The administration has not only made government bigger, they have made government part of the free enterprise system by printing money to keep large financial institutions from failing. This means that the lose will be shared by everyone who holds dollars. In other words, currency debasement is used to save an incompetent part of the capitalistic system. In the past when its currency was debased by a country, the government made no pretense about free enterprise. Only in the US has the Bush administration found a way to fool the tax payers into believing this is a natural and necessary part of free enterprise. We are such fools! Ed R C Macaulay wrote: Lets see if I have this straight in my mind.. Bear Stearns is an investment bank.. not a bank, so they cannot borrow money from the Fed. JP Morgan-Chase is a bank.. so JP borrowed 15 bil and change from the NY Fed and loaned it to Bare nekid because it's too big to fail. Translation.. when there is $ 550 trillion dollars in funny money ( derivitives) in play out there in the great game, us good ole boys need to stick together of somebody's gonna thinks wez a bunch of crooks. Richard The USA has operated under the Keynesian economic model since FDR. This model ,as in all pyramid schemes, anticipates a sustained gravy train with biscuit wheels economy where everything purchased yesterday will be paid for in tomorrows dollars well.. err.. until.. there is no tomorrow. Thomas wrote, It's the mother of all pyramid schemes. John Kenneth Galbraith was a student of John Maynard Keynes, and a member of ,That Awful Man in the White House's brain trust. Someone pointed out that his economic ideas wouldn't work in the long run. Galbraith's reply was, in the long run we will all be dead. Galbraith died a few months back, his scheme out lived him. The deterioration of the US economy is following an exponential curve. With the rejection of the US dollar by oil producing countries, this deterioration has now gone into the straight up portion of the curve. It has been prophecized that a new source of energy will emerge in the next 5 months, which will allow America to balance it's trade deficit. Yah, Yah, and my pig plays the
[Vo]:Nanosolar efficiency 9-10%, installed cost $3/W
Copy of the article below. 9 to 10% efficiency for Nanosolar's current production (they target 15% ultimately). Installed cost of 1MW German plant panels $3/W. Michel http://www.news.com/8301-11128_3-9894373-54.html?tag=nefd.top : March 14, 2008 10:56 AM PDT Thin-film outfit Global Solar touts efficiency, seeks expansion funds Posted by Martin LaMonica | 2 comments The race is on to make most the cost-effective solar panel, and little-known Global Solar Energy says its flexible, thin-film cells have got the lead. Company president and CEO Mike Gering told investors at the recent Piper Jaffray's Clean Technology and Renewables Conference that the company is trying to raise $100 million in private equity to finance construction of two new plants--one in Tucson, Ariz., and one in Berlin. A flexible, thin-film solar cell from Tuscon, Ariz.-based Global Solar Energy. (Credit: Global Solar Energy) The company is one of several developing thin-film solar cells made from the combination of materials copper indium gallium and diselenide (CIGS). CIGS, one alternative to the dominant silicon solar cell, is fast becoming a substantial piece of the fast-growing solar business. Solar industry research firm Prometheus Institute for Sustainable Development estimates that thin film technology could represent 20-30 percent of solar cell production by 2010. Nanosolar, a well financed start-up from Silicon Valley, started shipping its CIGS solar cells late last year and they will be used in a solar power park in Germany. Nanosolar and Solyndra, another CIGS challenger, are said to be looking to raise significant amounts of money as well at very high valuations, according to rumors. One of the largest venture investments last year was another CIGS producer, Heliovolt. It used to be that CIGS technology was the next hope for thin-film PV (photovoltaics), but that point has been reached by Global Solar, Gering said, adding that others will reach that point. Gering discounted the progress of his competitors. That's not surprising, given that he is trying to raise money, but the company has been manufacturing for a few years already and all of its production for 2008 is already sold. Until now, the company has sold its cells for use in portable, flexible solar chargers for military use or to charge consumer electronics. But he said a bigger growth opportunity is in solar panels and building-integrated PV, where cells are baked into roofs or siding. To expand, it needs more capital to build a 40-megawatt plant in Tucson and a 35-megawatt plant in Berlin, Gering said. In addition, Global Solar claims to hold the CIGS efficiency crown for converting light to electricity. The company's products can now convert 10 percent of sunlight to electricity and the company claims it will get to 13 or 14 percent. For comparison, the most efficient silicon solar cells are in the 20 percent range. Meanwhile, Nanosolar CEO Martin Roscheisen disclosed that his company's cells operate in the 9 to 10 percent range. He, too, spoke at the Piper Jaffray conference, where he said that the company expects it can reach 15 percent efficiency ultimately. Our entire strategy is not based on delivering the most efficient panels. It's to deliver the most cost-efficient panels, he said. Roscheisen said the installed cost of the panels at the planned East German plant will be about $3 per watt. He added that the company expects it can make the entire system cost lower than stock market high-flier First Solar, which is considered the most cost-effective on the market today.
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Harry Veeder's constitution excerpted... United States Constitution (from wiki) Section 8 The Congress shall have power When the Fed started bailing out private enterprise i.e. public corporations, it's getting beyond scary. Harvard and Wharton business school teach.. get positioned, grab and run. They are taught no one owns GM, whoever runs GM has a liscense to loot. Wall street people are now taught there are NO rules any longer. Our young people have given up on Bush and the government. The young voters will determine the next elected leaders of our nation. What is beyond scary is what they were taught in college, every more what they are teaching their children. Richard
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On 15/3/2008 10:37 PM, R C Macaulay wrote: Harvard and Wharton business school teach.. get positioned, grab and run. They are taught no one owns GM, whoever runs GM has a liscense to loot. Wall street people are now taught there are NO rules any longer. the only rule is... don't get caught. ;-) harry
