Re: [Vo]:Steve the cat is indeed on the job on Mars

2008-06-27 Thread Steven Krivit
woah...somebody has waaay too much time on their hands. but he must be a cool cat, he's got a good name Meow At 08:45 AM 6/26/2008, you wrote: We really need Steve's help in getting Phoenix micrographs from Mars published in real time. http://www.stevethecat.com/mars.htm I expect we'll

[Vo]:Oil, $200 a barrel?

2008-06-27 Thread OrionWorks
I found the following article amusing in a macabre sort of way. http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/27/markets/oil.ap/index.htm Especially the statement: Meanwhile, the head of Libya's national oil company said the country may cut crude production because the oil market is well supplied, according

Re: [Vo]:the Fall Guys

2008-06-27 Thread rvanspaa
In reply to Taylor J. Smith's message of Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:44:19 +: Hi, [snip] Is it hopeless to remind our fellow citizens that we didn't leave the Stone Age because we ran out of stones? What makes you think we left the stone age? :) [snip]

Re: [Vo]:Oil, $200 a barrel?

2008-06-27 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Steven, Actually, what the articles states is the dollar devaluation is the driving force behind the rush of investment professionals toward a safe haven in crude oil futures. This haven is much better than gold. The price of crude is now the best gauge of the true value of the US

[Vo]:Photos of Mizuno's hydrocarbon experiment

2008-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: Main article in Japanese http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/146/146085/ Photos from article, with English labels http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/146/146087/img800.html http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/146/146089/img800.html http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/146/146088/img800.html - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Oil, $200 a barrel?

2008-06-27 Thread OrionWorks
Howdy Richard, Howdy Steven, Actually, what the articles states is the dollar devaluation is the driving force behind the rush of investment professionals toward a safe haven in crude oil futures. This haven is much better than gold. The price of crude is now the best gauge of the true

Re: [Vo]:Steve the cat is indeed on the job on Mars

2008-06-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:23 AM, Steven Krivit wrote: woah...somebody has waaay too much time on their hands. Actually I still have 411 vortex messages unread. I'm way behind on everything. The above was somewhat of an acknowledgment of Jones Beene's post: On May 31, 2008, at

[Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread Horace Heffner
I'm hopefully not given to apoplexy, but this just about did it for me: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/us/27solar.html? _r=2oref=sloginoref=slogin http://tinyurl.com/4bo5b5 Faced with a surge in the number of proposed solar power plants, the federal government has placed a moratorium on

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread R C Macaulay
Not to worry Horace, Todays national news reports that 16 Ethanol plants filed for bankruptcy and another 15 are likely to close in the USA alone this year Richard, - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vortex-L vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 27,

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread Edmund Storms
We have seen this approach many times in the past. When this government is given two choices, it will always pick the least intelligent one. Hopefully, the next administration will reverse these decisions. Ed Horace Heffner wrote: I'm hopefully not given to apoplexy, but this just about did

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mike Carrell wrote: When your are promoting a technology that may lead to covering square miles of land in our thirst for energy, it is well take a look at the environmental consequences of doing so. *Not* doing so got us where we are. Plus, I believe there is plenty of private and state

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread Edmund Storms
Every normal person is in favor of protecting the environment, Mike. Its the way it is done or the hypocrisy shown by the administration that is so stupid. For example, drilling in the coastal waters or in Alaska is all right even though the harm to the environment is obvious. But, covering

RE: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Years ago, the EPA was given the mandate to carry out environmental impact assessments on large federal projects. It would have been prudent and forward looking for EPA some years ago to have studied the impacts of large-scale solar paneling. There was nothing -- except a lack of responsibility

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Meanwhile watch Blacklight Power over the next few years. Utility-scale reactors are on their ajenda. Hydrogen from water. If that happens, all bets are off, including cold fusion. Why they plan to make hydrogen I do

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread rvanspaa
In reply to Mike Carrell's message of Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:39:09 -0400: Hi, [snip] The informaltion about Nanosolar with printed PV with 14% efficiency looks most interesting, but you need to deploy a few square miles to find the 'gotchas' through wind, sand and rain. [snip] Note that 14% is the

Re: [Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects

2008-06-27 Thread rvanspaa
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:59:33 -0400: Hi, [snip] Why they plan to make hydrogen I do not know. Why not just react the stuff in a fuel cell and make electricity. [snip] I think the idea of using Hydrogen is as a transport fuel. My question is why not use their