RE: [Vo]:RE: [Vo] Sunspotless

2008-09-07 Thread Rick Monteverde
Stephen - I'm not ignoring .4% per year. I actually nailed it from memory, but didn't bother spelling it all out because I was dismissing the tangential subject of CO2 volume in general which has already been considered. It's just another diversion you presented and is irrelevant to the point

[Vo]:Series parallel diode array

2008-09-07 Thread Charles M. Brown
Vorts, Diode arrays plausibly rectify and aggregate Johnson noise to absorb heat directly from surrounding air or water (that can not be made more uniform in temperature by further stirring) while releasing equivalent electrical power. The concept requires nanometer scale diodes fabricated

[Vo]:Windmill Braking System

2008-09-07 Thread Terry Blanton
I wonder if they use dynamic and/or frictional brakes? Regardless, here's what happens when the brakes fail: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqEccgR0q-o Terry

Re: [Vo]:Science and faith

2008-09-07 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: PHILIP WINESTONE Many years ago, George Orwell wrote a very powerful essay, entitled, Benefit of Clergy. It clarified - as only Orwell could - a similar type of situation. I couldn't find this essay on the web, but in common law - the benefit of clergy was

RE: [Vo]:Windmill Braking System

2008-09-07 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Last I knew, they just feathered the blades and turned the turret at right angles to the wind. Has that method changed? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:25 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Windmill Braking

Re: [Vo]:Windmill Braking System

2008-09-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Apparently, the destroyed mill was either new or undergoing maintenance possibly due to a feathering failure? Terry On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last I knew, they just feathered the blades and turned the turret at right angles to the wind. Has

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

2008-09-07 Thread Nick Palmer
Just to try to level the field wherein all the argument takes place over AGW. Richard Lindzen is probably the most respected of the atmospheric scientists who are sceptical about catastrophic climate change. He has been the AGW sceptical scientist-of-choice on many TV programmes and writes

Re: [Vo]:Science and faith

2008-09-07 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
One ought to be able to hold in one's head simultaneously the two facts that Dali is a good draughtsman and a disgusting human being. The one does not invalidate or, in a sense, affect the other. That was my point. The fact that it was Dali just brings it home, because Dali did some very odd

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

2008-09-07 Thread Edmund Storms
While all you say very well Nick is true and reasonable. Nevertheless the basic issue is not addressed. The basic issue is that burning fossil fuels is harmful for several important reasons, only one of which is global warming. Therefore, we should make every effort to phase out this

[Vo]:Japan's Green Motors

2008-09-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Great article on what's just over the horizon from the land of the rising sun: http://www.newsweek.com/id/157508/page/1 including a Mitsubishi PHEV with 160 km EV only range and Meanwhile, thanks to its work with Japanese power companies, Mitsubishi says it's close to perfecting quick charge

Re: [Vo]:Japan's Green Motors

2008-09-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Speculating on what these quick charge devices might be one cannot help but consider ultracapacitors. Today's cost for UCs make them prohibitive for automotive applications (until EEStor proves me wrong); however, they might make an excellent fixed storage device for recharging stations. Terry

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

2008-09-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Edmund Storms wrote: While all you say very well Nick is true and reasonable. Nevertheless the basic issue is not addressed. The basic issue is that burning fossil fuels is harmful for several important reasons, only one of which is global warming. Therefore, we should make every effort to

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

2008-09-07 Thread Edmund Storms
On Sep 7, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: snip So, when the Arctic Ocean is free of ice and the last polar bear is stuffed and placed in a museum, it will *STILL* not be obvious that humans had any effect at all on the climate: The apparent connection

Re: [Vo]:Series parallel diode array

2008-09-07 Thread Jones Beene
The following is not the same thing that Charlie is doing -- but Idaho Nat Labs has developed nano-antennas for rectifying IR heat - from solar. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080810214010.htm In effect, a nanoantenna and a nanodiodes are not all that dissimilar. If either can

RE: [Vo]:Sunspotless

2008-09-07 Thread Rick Monteverde
Nick - The skeptics point to those three things because those things correctly expose the serious problems AGW has - a lack of evidence for CO2 as a cause for warming. 1) there has been warming ...and cooling. And warming. Etc. (I figured you meant currently since human CO2 contribution, but

[Vo]:Vaccination for political label in development, CDC to issue mandatory inoculations soon

2008-09-07 Thread Rick Monteverde
Vaccination for political label in development, CDC to issue mandatory inoculations soon. Everyone can visualize their favorite political target in the tag. Maybe this was discussed a bit on the forum before, but political prisoners in soviet Russia were claimed to have a specific treatable

Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless

2008-09-07 Thread Nick Palmer
Apologies for the shouting in this post! Rick wrote: The skeptics point to those three things because those things correctly expose the serious problems AGW has - a lack of evidence for CO2 as a cause for warming. There is tons of evidence for CO2 as a (but not the only) cause for warming.

Re: [Vo]:Vaccination for political label in development, CDC to issue mandatory inoculations soon

2008-09-07 Thread Jones Beene
... did Gandhi have gondii ?

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

2008-09-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of WTC 7, I saw the video of that building coming down, I know a controlled demolition when I see one. It didn't fall down, it imploded. Oh do you? Maybe so, and maybe not, but here are some people who definitely do know a controlled demolition when they see

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

2008-09-07 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Jed Rothwell Why do you persist in creating ridiculous straw-men to demolish? That is so juvenile. Is winning an argument more important to you than finding the truth in these allegations? No one has suggested arson per se in this discussion. We should all

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

2008-09-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jones Beene wrote: - Original Message From: Jed Rothwell Why do you persist in creating ridiculous straw-men to demolish? That is so juvenile. Is winning an argument more important to you than finding the truth in these allegations? No one has suggested arson per se in this

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

2008-09-07 Thread R C Macaulay
WT-7 building imploded and fell in a classic figuration of a controlled demolition event. The time lapse vids do not lie. The destruction of the building has not been kept a secret .. it cannot be.. BUT.. it can be debunked. It was by the NIST report. WTC firemen gave interviews on TV, their

RE: [Vo]:Sunspotless

2008-09-07 Thread Rick Monteverde
Nick - you simply cannot keep stating what you have said previously and retain any credibility. With you, perhaps, and that doesn't concern me a bit. The position I take is based on my and others' interpretation of the facts, and I'll stand on that. Lindzen is entitled to his opinion, as are

RE: [Vo]:Vaccination for political label in development, CDC to issue mandatory inoculations soon

2008-09-07 Thread Rick Monteverde
Lead poisoning. _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 1:44 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vaccination for political label in development, CDC to issue mandatory inoculations soon ... did Gandhi have gondii ?

Re: [Vo]:NIST debunking

2008-09-07 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence My guess -- and it is nothing more than a guess -- is that a significant fraction of the collapse energy *did* turn into heat, and that, in fact, the amount of heat generated was large enough to melt a significant amount of steel. But