Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-02-29 Thread Michele Comitini
Steven, Have you played with celestia? http://www.shatters.net/celestia/ Back to the topic. The original article from Nature: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v482/n7386/full/nature10836.html mic Il giorno 28 febbraio 2012 15:53, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com ha

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-02-29 02:30, Daniel Rocha wrote: The test was supposed to start on Friday 24 February, but according to sources of Ny Teknik it was initiated only after the weekend. The sources also said that the test was not focused on power or energy measurements but rather on safety.

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel Rocha
I feel like banging my head against a wall. 2012/2/29 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com On 2012-02-29 02:30, Daniel Rocha wrote: The test was supposed to start on Friday 24 February, but according to sources of Ny Teknik it was initiated only after the weekend. The sources also

RE: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-02-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Michele: Have you played with celestia? http://www.shatters.net/celestia/ No, I haven't. I'll take a closer look at the tour when I get some time. Back to the topic. The original article from Nature: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v482/n7386/full/nature10836.html Thanks for

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Alain Sepeda
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=1272p=6889#p6889 Defkalion disagree with that article: Nytechnik article is 100% wrong based on pure speculations of the journalist. We expect his response after a direct communication with him. DGT 2012/2/29 Harry Veeder

Re: [Vo]:The Aspden Effect

2012-02-29 Thread fusion.calo...@gmail.com
Terry, FYI: Within your ref: That quantum jitter, by the way, is the so-called 'Zitterbewegung' that underlies Heisenberg's Principle of Uncertainty in quantum theory, by which neither position nor momentum are certain, but multiply the two together and you get a definite quantum of angular

RE: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Robert Leguillon
UPDATED (February 29): In an interview with New Technology, said Alexandros Xanthoulis that the test was conducted on 24 February and that it is not focused on security, as the product is ready for such tests. The focus instead was to show that the released heat energy from a Low Energy

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel Rocha
So, each reaction merely last 12 hours and not 48 hours. 2 teams already, when we just expected only 1. *facepalm* This story gets worse and worse for DGT. 2012/2/29 Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com *UPDATED* (February 29): In an interview with New Technology, said Alexandros

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Peter Gluck
Making tests- internal or with other parties is now a routine activity for DGT; tests can be of different duration and can differ by other parameters too. Till we have no data and other information, we cannot say what the tests show. The tests are done with and for people who will take decisions

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel Rocha
I wish it was only my curiosity that were suffering. I feel more disappointed than anxious for results. 2012/2/29 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Making tests- internal or with other parties is now a routine activity for DGT; tests can be of different duration and can differ by other

[Vo]:IBM: We're on the cusp of the Quantum Computing revolution (video)

2012-02-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Might be of interest to some here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/28/ibm-quantum-computing/ Sounds like it would certainly speed up some of my own computer simulation work. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-02-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:54 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: What I can say is that the new system involves an alternative way of graphing out a periodic orbit - where you plot an elliptical orbit on a TIME-LINE chart. The orbital distance is the Y

Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-02-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Harry: From OrionWorks: What I can say is that the new system involves an alternative way of graphing out a periodic orbit - where you plot an elliptical orbit on a TIME-LINE chart. The orbital distance is the Y vertical value and the horizontal X value is the time value. That

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Defkalion does not bother to explain why these tests differ significantly from those that were originally planned. It is ok to change plans, but without an explanation it makes their behaviour look suspicious. Similarly they never explained why the tests planned for last august never occured. IMO,

RE: [Vo]:OT: $35 computer sells out on first day of launch

2012-02-29 Thread Jones Beene
Yikes - this is not OT at all. How can they do it for the price? This could kill a big chunk of the Pic and Arduino market for microcontrollers, with a few changes. Don't be surprised if your new Ni-H system is controlled by something similar. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks -

Re: [Vo]:OT: $35 computer sells out on first day of launch

2012-02-29 Thread Andre Blum
The broadcom chip on there is of the kind that is in your iphone and other smartphones. They are SoC's (system-on-a-chip), meaning all peripherals are on the chip. If you look at the board you will see that there is almost no other glue, than just what is needed to go to the various

[Vo]:Defkalion closes forum

2012-02-29 Thread Wolf Fischer
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=1278sid=5d586d1c2c35f0d82953353c6d922a99 Understandable on one side, however what did they expect with those actions which they took?... Wolf

[Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6909#p6909 We are a private company with our own strategy. We believed in the operation of a forum in our website because LENR should be accessible by all. We aimed to counter many conspiracy theorists. Our goal was to stress that we would

[Vo]:What are the Odds?

2012-02-29 Thread Terry Blanton
Of a catastrophic solar storm? Would you believe 12.5%? http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/massive-solar-flare/ Time to stock the root cellar. T

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I do not see how they have changed their test protocol. They did this just like they told to do, that is a twin test. I guess that they first thought to do it 2x24 hours, but 2x12 hours was find to be enough for the testing purpose, that was to demonstrate the cold fusion effect. Of course

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Terry Blanton
The situation now is different in that our openness creates problems that can damage the success of this project. That's BS. It's the lack of openness which has caused them problems. Reminds me of a certain political administration. T

RE: [Vo]:What are the Odds?

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Goldes
This is an important article, as is the research paper behind it. To date, little has been done to minimize the potential nuclear nightmare that could result from such a catastrophic solar storm. The Wired article totally omits that little recognized aspect. See 400 Chernobyls? and Dire

Re: [Vo]:What are the Odds?

2012-02-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Mark Goldes mgol...@chavaenergy.com wrote: Much can be done - if we are wise enough to do it. We aren't and we won't. Read the book: http://www.onesecondafter.com/ especially, the afterword. T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From DGT: The situation now is different in that our openness creates problems that can damage the success of this project. ... Some may agree, and some may disagree with DGT's stated reasons for closing their forum. Personally, I'm surprised that DGT actually had a controversial forum of

Re: [Vo]:OT: $35 computer sells out on first day of launch

2012-02-29 Thread Michele Comitini
The funny thing is that Intel some years ago sold its own ARM design the Xscale because it was not profitable. I think that now that ARM is the most common CPU around, they are biting their own hands. ARM history is really interesting and shows how a very innovative technology can come close to

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel Rocha
Do not expect to see any data from these tests: Until Defkalion Green Technologies has its product, we shall no longer get involved in the games and blogs of online media. Our next announcement in the coming months will be that of a successful and certified product.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:37 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I'm surprised that DGT actually had a controversial forum of this nature up and running for as long as they had. The odd thing is: it's not closed yet. I just posted a message. WTF? T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Personally, I'm surprised that DGT actually had a controversial forum of this nature up and running for as long as they had. The odd thing is:  it's not closed yet.  I just posted a message.  WTF? They must like you, Terry. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 22:37 Mittwoch, 29.Februar 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again Chill out! Go get some authentic Greek Worry Beads! My two cents.

[Vo]:very fast

2012-02-29 Thread fznidarsic
I got this hate mail addressed to all people with an email address house.gov. I promptly reported it to homeland security. Within 10 minutes all traces of the mailing were removed from and in and old mail basket. I know not what happened next. Frank Z

RE: [Vo]:OT: $35 computer sells out on first day of launch

2012-02-29 Thread Jones Beene
Andre, AB: the fusioncatalyst.org open source initiative that Bastiaan announced will use the beaglebone, which is a very similar device, and uses the same ARM CPU core. It is here on my desk, has tons of I/O pins and works great. Thanks for mentioning this again. I must have missed it the

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Jarold McWilliams
Yes, I don't know why they had the forum in the first place. What are they expecting if they aren't willing to do an independent test? I didn't think the posts on the forum were that bad for any party. I didn't think the skepticism was unreasonable, but I did think running a forum was pretty

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 23:07 Mittwoch, 29.Februar 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik) Do not expect to see any data from these tests: Until Defkalion Green

Re: [Vo]:OT: $35 computer sells out on first day of launch

2012-02-29 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 0:10 Donnerstag, 1.März 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:OT: $35 computer sells out on first day of launch  Prior to hearing about the ‘beaglebone’ I was thinking about the Raspi as possibly a

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Craig Brown
Every single alternative energy forum suffers from the same problem. An infestation by the establishment trolls foaming at the mouth and conducting themselves in the manor of a religious cult in their denouncement of ANYTHING that strays from scientific dogma. They will not let up in pushing their

[Vo]:Physice depends on choice of coordinates

2012-02-29 Thread David Jonsson
Hi The wish and desire of having physics independent of coordinate system can not be met nor fulfilled. The Madelung constant is proof of this. It becomes divergent in spherical coordinates and convergent in cubic coordinate. Covariance can thus be forgotten. Check

RE: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Craig Brown
Defkalion have previously stated that the groups of testers were entirely free to publish their own results. Perhaps we will start to see announcemnts turn up online over the coming weeks/months. I don't think Defkalion will try to restrict them talking - if they did that would be a bad move.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 0:37 Donnerstag, 1.März 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again They were flushed down the plughole and disappeared in a VORTEX (pun intended). So what do

RE: [Vo]:OT: $35 computer sells out on first day of launch

2012-02-29 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Günter, But the specs I saw mentioned Ethernet, which is a bit faster, but if not– do we really care about “real world” interfacing in this situation? It would seem that the ability to control a complex local mechanism at even 80 MHz for a fraction of the cost of previous state-of-the-art

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 0:42 Donnerstag, 1.März 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik) ...if they did that would be a bad move. Ofcourse. But remember.: If somebody

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Harry Veeder
The forum is more than a place to answer questions and make annoucements. If Defkalion listened carefully, the forum is telling them how to communicate more effectively with ALL their supporters, not just the adoring fans. The adoring fans and pathological skeptics always seem to roughly balance

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion shutting down their forum .. again

2012-02-29 Thread Robert
It seems that the straw that broke the camel's back was a poster eluding to Defkalion/Praxen being a possible front organization for laundering money out of Greece. There were two or three posters that were not just acting like spoilt children, but making accusations that would make any

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Guenter -- your reply-to address is your own email address. On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.comwrote: DGT did not make a substantial error up to now. Btw, my own projects often have delays and complications and modifications. That's the way it is. In

Re: [Vo]:Physice depends on choice of coordinates

2012-02-29 Thread David Roberson
I do not agree that the choice of coordinate systems changes the physics of any experiment. I only see the coordinate system chosen as a way to locate the position and other position derivatives of a body. Could you explain how the Madelung constant would relate to real world effects? Dave

RE: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Daniel: As DGT has stated SEVERAL times, is it up to the visiting entities, NOT DGT, to release test results!!! You are not reading things correctly.. perhaps because English is not your native language. Those entities, if they CHOOSE to release the results, will very likely do it via the

[Vo]:FYI: faster than a speeding electron... how fast is that??? Radar gun for electron flow...

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Just some interesting science. http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-electron-detection-breakthrough-unleash- next-generation-technologies.html The researchers discovered that by shining light from a high-power laser onto a material that contains moving electrons, light of a different color

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Jarold McWilliams
DGT may not owe us anything, but I don't owe them anything either. Defkalion has shown us nothing, and Rossi just had some demos that he was in complete control of. I don't owe them any patience, though I will still wait until March 31. If nothing happens by then, there is no reason for me

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Jarold McWilliams
What if DGT didn't have any tests? We'll never get results because these visiting entities might not even exist. Why can't DGT release the test results without the entities, but just don't mention who the entities are? This doesn't prove they have anything, but it's a start, and there is no

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Daniel Rocha
You are in such a hurry. I will wait until Oct30th. I chose this date last year, for a 3rd party confirmation of a working product, because it is close to AR`s 1MW test. I will apply the same date to DGT. 2012/3/1 Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.com DGT may not owe us anything, but I don't

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Jarold McWilliams
Whatever. Defkalion and Rossi themselves said they would have independent verification by the end of March. On Feb 29, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: You are in such a hurry. I will wait until Oct30th. I chose this date last year, for a 3rd party confirmation of a working product,

Re: [Vo]:DGT's 1st test did not test power, just safety (NyTeknik)

2012-02-29 Thread Jouni Valkonen
If Dick Smith had not been such an ignorant jerk and had not turned down Defkalion's fair offer, he would have been one of the independent entities in testing Hyperions. Of course it is plausible, that losing $one million had been such a shock, that he would have hidden the results in shame

Re: [Vo]:Tungsten?

2012-02-29 Thread Alain Sepeda
yes it is ited in many larsen slkides as one of the key experiment. tungsten was seen vaporized in an unusual way when LENR signas were seen. http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/slides/2009June25LatticeEnergySlides.pdf eg page 59, but many other (including exploding wires) 2012/2/29 Mark Goldes