Re: [Vo]:New experiment started AC/DC
Have you tryed potassium hydroxide, the Blacklight Electrolyte? Axil. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: I shot a little video of my latest experiment with borax. It is controlled with an Android phone, IOIO microcontroller, and relay bank. I am switching back and forth between AC and DC current supplies. Pardon the mess of wires as I am early in the process. It is interesting how the electrolyte turns a copper brown color. That was after running 1 1/2 days on DC current at 5 to 13 watts. I'm using the same 8 nickels on the thoriated tungsten rod as a cathode and 4 stainless steel washers as the anode. There is more heating and almost no bubbles on AC. I'm not sure what brown color is about. I've seen this repeatedly. What I'm interested to try is to see the max temperature achieved by AC alone, then DC alone, and then AC and DC alternating for different periods of time. http://youtu.be/sH90M85S2mE Regards, Jack
Re: [Vo]:The Quantum
Post corrected and expanded as follows: Regarding the video: It’s not HHO, Cold fusion the Papp engine. In the video, the speaker sites a 23% improvement in engine efficiency due to HHO based nuclear reactions. He then draws a comparison between HHO and the Papp reaction. The speaker references this paper by R.A. Oriani and J.C. Fisher www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/OrianiRAenergeticc.pdf Then the speaker speculates that an unknown neutron like substance catalyzes alpha particle emissions as a result of electrolysis. Being a fan of LeClair, I believe this speculation is true. From the work of LeClair, we know that a water crystal exists and this superatom is a Brown’s gas seed. The water crystal is produced either by cavatation or an electric arc. https://nanospireinc.com/Fusion.html https://nanospireinc.com/images/f5e5c048cead31e43e197bf4bc628018_bgak.jpg Also see “Protonated water clusters” in this reference: http://gupea.ub.gu.se/bitstream/2077/28349/1/gupea_2077_28349_1.pdf This water based superatom will catalyze the lowering of the coulomb barrier of atoms in the combustion plasma of a car cylinder and produce LENR based nuclear fission, fusion and alpha decay in that container. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superatom But the speaker jumps to an unsupported conclusion: The unknown electrolytic substance (water crystals) is central to the Papp reaction. I doubt this is true for the Papp reaction, but superatom formation using other elements cannot be ruled out at this juncture. From what I have seen in that various demos of the Papp engine, water is not used as a Papp reactant. If a superatom LENR catalyst is produced, Xenon would be the best candidate for its crystallization/ionization. The Papp reaction is probably based on the production of a supersonic shockwave. In the same way that the LeClair water crystals produce a supersonic shockwave in the LeClair reactor, an Xenon superatom will catalyze a supersonic shockwave in the five noble gas mix of the popper. Both hydrogen and nitrogen also can produce superatoms which is sometimes called Rydberg matter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rydberg_matter Experimentally determining the true basis of the Papp reaction is within reach of Russ’s experimental purview. Cheers: Axil On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding the video: It’s not HHO, Cold fusion the Papp engine. In the video, the speaker sites a 23% improvement in engine efficiency due to HHO based nuclear reactions. He then draws a comparison between HHO and the Papp reaction. The speaker references this paper by R.A. Oriani and J.C. Fisher www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/OrianiRAenergeticc.pdf Then the speaker speculates that an unknown neutron like substance catalyzes alpha particle emissions as a result of electrolysis. Being a fan of LeClair, I believe this speculation is true. From the work of LeClair, we know that a water crystal exists and this superatom is a Brown’s gas seed. The water crystal is produced either by cavatation or an electric arc. https://nanospireinc.com/Fusion.html https://nanospireinc.com/images/f5e5c048cead31e43e197bf4bc628018_bgak.jpg Also see “Protonated water clusters” in this reference: http://gupea.ub.gu.se/bitstream/2077/28349/1/gupea_2077_28349_1.pdf This water based superatom will catalyze the lowering of the coulomb barrier of atoms in the combustion plasma of a car cylinder and produce nuclear fission, fusion and alpha decay in that container. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superatom But the speaker jumps to an unsupported conclusion that water crystals are central to the Papp reaction but superatom formation cannot be ruled out at this juncture. From what I have seen in that various demos of the Papp engine, water is not uses as a Papp reactant. If a superatom LENR catalyst is produced, Xenon would be the best candidate for its crystallization/ionization. The Papp reaction is probably based on the production of a supersonic shockwave. Experimentally determining the true basis of the Papp reaction is within reach of Russ’s experimental purview. Cheers: Axil On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Ly Sig ly...@ymail.com wrote: Schrödinger's cat is alive and had kittens: http://www.youtube.com/v/foIWltOShO0 Watch the entire video. Gentlemen, start your on board computers. Cheers, Ly
Re: [Vo]:Whence Willard?
Off topic. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:21 PM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote: This is for all the devoted Demo-rats, which can be confused with a small furry rodent that lives in subways sewers, and can spread diseases to the human population. The Rats used in many laboratories along with it's less-developed Mouse cousin (of which are the first to develope/evolve after the E.L.E. 65 million years ago) are used in various experiments and adapted to man-made enclosed environment that cause it's genes to mutate or grow White Hair or Fur. Their purpose is to aid human beings in their plight to live healthy or free from deadly viruses or bacteria that can transform into more serious diseases, or a plague. Sadly, for many of these somewhat cuddley little virmen producing creatures, it's too late, because they're unaware of their demise about to be administered to them via endless testing of pain tolerances and/or extreme conditons for endurance, of which usually leads to a shortened lifespan. Their Wanabe Chemosloppy BO Bwana From Kenyya Nairobi, that thinks highly of himself and/or either as a Man, or a President, is actually a terrorist-loving anti-whitey-american, anti-economy, anti-freedom, or anti due-process, anti justice, and/or anti everything this Country means, represents, or stands for, except maybe for what has enabled the malodorous BO to mingle in with a so-called community of people that befriended Mr Stinkey One. These useful tools would go on to serve BO's purpose, because they simply couldn't resist the overpowering spell put upon them. BO filled them with anger resentment even hatred toward the humans their establishment. They were under a hypnotic trance-like mindless state of obedience, having no choice but to Support this Greatly Disappointed Self Annointed Messiah Genius w/ a IQ so high, it couldn't' even be measured. Yeah anyway, so, looking back on BO's history of how he had managed to navigate the tree tops into this Country, starting all the way back in his original birth place in Kenya Africa, as just a wee small innocent primate learning how to recognize and/or detest whitish looking skin he was born to a Whitey Mother, which tends to be a certain undesireable color thats associated with intelligence and/or characteristic of a civilized human being. BO's Father's side of the Family Clan mostly regarded these very unnatural traits as being offensive, unacceptable and/or unapproved of, and so, the actual truth of what happened to his BO's Whitey Mother is w/o transparency and/or likely involved some type of foul-play, or some way in which muzzleheaded piritives deal with troubling issues. Now, early on in BO's life, Big Oil Banking (Big Money) had essentially taken him Out Of Africa into a certain area of Jacarta Indonesia, where he went to school and learned the lame teachings of the correct way to stone, torture, or kill people, and/or earned a Degree in Dictatorship. From there he moved to another upscale white dis-liking or despising residence in Hawaii, where he obtained his highly prized (much like the White House) forged birth certificate. Back in that time-period, the State of Hawaii had somewhat lapsed loopholds or laws that enabled those seeking illegalcitizenship the opportunity to obtain a forged birth certificate, and so, BO's Uncle (a genuine card-carrying communist) being a Legal (?) Guardian, had taken BO there for the specific purpose of establishing citizenship of America, the evil empire,,, which was the apple of BO's eye! Now, looking into BO's past since illegally misoccupying this Country... he spent a lot of his time fitting-in with the so-called people, and proceeded to learn of their gullible ways. He began to organize their efforts, and acquired much support for his noble effort to gain power by rnnning for a senate seat (test run). He had his sight set on the Presidency, because he was sure that nothing could stop him from obtaining power wealth, which America so generously offered. His promise of hope change was essentially a plan to fundamentally change this country for his very own personal gain. So back when BO was (illegal) sworn-in by taking The Oaf For The Office Of The Presidency, I had noticed how BO seemed to stumble on some of the Oafish words being recited, and he almost seem to laugh or scoff at it. Of course, it's because he needed to let his fellow clan members and/or BS (black support) know that he was not sincere,,, and they wouldn't have to worry about his (ill)intentions, or lack of thereof the,, which was very
Re: [Vo]:The Quantum
I think I found the lion and the tiger, not sure if I can cage them... Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Friday, November 2, 2012, Ly Sig wrote: Schrödinger's cat is alive and had kittens: http://www.youtube.com/v/foIWltOShO0 Watch the entire video. Gentlemen, start your on board computers. Cheers, Ly
Re: [Vo]:New experiment started AC/DC
I have not yet tried KOH. Once I get all the kinks worked out of this, there is no reason I couldn't run several simultaneous electrolytic cells (recording data from all). On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tryed potassium hydroxide, the Blacklight Electrolyte? Axil. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: I shot a little video of my latest experiment with borax. It is controlled with an Android phone, IOIO microcontroller, and relay bank. I am switching back and forth between AC and DC current supplies. Pardon the mess of wires as I am early in the process. It is interesting how the electrolyte turns a copper brown color. That was after running 1 1/2 days on DC current at 5 to 13 watts. I'm using the same 8 nickels on the thoriated tungsten rod as a cathode and 4 stainless steel washers as the anode. There is more heating and almost no bubbles on AC. I'm not sure what brown color is about. I've seen this repeatedly. What I'm interested to try is to see the max temperature achieved by AC alone, then DC alone, and then AC and DC alternating for different periods of time. http://youtu.be/sH90M85S2mE Regards, Jack
Re: [Vo]:New patent by Blacklight Power: WO2012138576A1
In the U.S. patent application - HETEROGENEOUS HYDROGEN-CATALYST POWER SYSTEM is at: http://www.google.com/patents/US20120122017 The mathematical theory is described in paragraphs [0073] - [0110] of the DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE EMBODIMENTS OF THE DISCLOSURE (pdf page 25) 'Hydrino' is defined in [0087]. This patent application is extremely detailed - must have taken man-years. It would interesting to know whether any of the processes described overlap any used in other experimental LENR devices. - Lou Pagnucco Alan Fletcher wrote: At 09:02 PM 11/1/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: A full text pdf version is available at: http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/H2o-based-electrochemical-hydrogen-catalyst/WO2012138576A1.pdf 287 pages! (I only got as far as page 3). Does the European patent office endorse Hydrinos?
Re: [Vo]:Whence Willard?
Lets forget the White Demo Rats for now, and concentrate more on a somewhat evil menacing horrrific looking species of parasitic cockroach. It's (im)proper scientifically called Africahoonus Amoongus or more simply A Fricken American Hating Thugly Ugly Mugly Cruddy Scuzzy Slug Bug. Currently, very little is actually known about it, but seems to have one purpose, which is to extract as much as possible out of it's victims, and/or the human population. This creepy crawly parasitic menace tends to be highly destructive, and also seems to have the ability to inflict it's victims with an overwhelming feeling of guilt. It would appear as tho this all-knowing high mighty King Cockroach is ordained or blessed with the power to decide whether or not human beings have contributed enough of their vital fluids or livelyhood to the infested-nation now taking place. Be warned, if you have been fortunate enough not to have set eyes upon this ghastly hideous grotesque rather clammy cold disease spreading creature, you'll need to be prepared. It will likely send chills down your spine, and may even make you convulse (as oppose to converse) and/or until you choke vomit. The first time I inadvertently saw this irreprehensible looking over-grown parasitic insect, I wanted to take smash the TV set w/ a baseball batt, but then I realized that that is exactly what this dark multi-limbed invader wants. Also, you should be aware that The Whitey House has been infested with a army of sub-cockroaches, who're under the spell of the King Cockroach, which goes by the name of BO or the Prz ya, daaas ihhh suckah!. Now, BO duh Preeez, gives off a very distinky odor, which really shouldn't be confused with too many of the other shadowy dark creatures, which may resemble it. The burnt black color (for me) tends to make me think of what a typical poor excuse of a human being might look after an unclear holocause. Well, thats all for now, maybe we'll talk again after the E-L-E-C-T-I-O-N, that enables a Truly Respectable Free American Human Being to be voted in, as opposed to a low life punk a$$ overgrown honky dinkey donkey monkey w/ a thugly nose flaring nostrils phony attitude w/ dog-eaten purple lips of a two-bit Illegal Alien that only aspires to remain in-power as the Country's Ruling Dictator. Thank you. Respectfully, Loren. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Whence Willard?
Thank you so much, lorenheyer, from all us whitey Americans for your numerous stupendously brilliant expositions on how life really is. Now please go back down your sick wormhole, or whatever, for, oh, a hundred years or so. We'll let you know when it's OK. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:35 AM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote: Lets forget the White Demo Rats for now, and concentrate more on a somewhat evil menacing horrrific looking species of parasitic cockroach. It's (im)proper scientifically called Africahoonus Amoongus or more simply A Fricken American Hating Thugly Ugly Mugly Cruddy Scuzzy Slug Bug. Currently, very little is actually known about it, but seems to have one purpose, which is to extract as much as possible out of it's victims, and/or the human population. This creepy crawly parasitic menace tends to be highly destructive, and also seems to have the ability to inflict it's victims with an overwhelming feeling of guilt. It would appear as tho this all-knowing high mighty King Cockroach is ordained or blessed with the power to decide whether or not human beings have contributed enough of their vital fluids or livelyhood to the infested-nation now taking place. Be warned, if you have been fortunate enough not to have set eyes upon this ghastly hideous grotesque rather clammy cold disease spreading creature, you'll need to be prepared. It will likely send chills down your spine, and may even make you convulse (as oppose to converse) and/or until you choke vomit. The first time I inadvertently saw this irreprehensible looking over-grown parasitic insect, I wanted to take smash the TV set w/ a baseball batt, but then I realized that that is exactly what this dark multi-limbed invader wants. Also, you should be aware that The Whitey House has been infested with a army of sub-cockroaches, who're under the spell of the King Cockroach, which goes by the name of BO or the Prz ya, daaas ihhh suckah!. Now, BO duh Preeez, gives off a very distinky odor, which really shouldn't be confused with too many of the other shadowy dark creatures, which may resemble it. The burnt black color (for me) tends to make me think of what a typical poor excuse of a human being might look after an unclear holocause. Well, thats all for now, maybe we'll talk again after the E-L-E-C-T-I-O-N, that enables a Truly Respectable Free American Human Being to be voted in, as opposed to a low life punk a$$ overgrown honky dinkey donkey monkey w/ a thugly nose flaring nostrils phony attitude w/ dog-eaten purple lips of a two-bit Illegal Alien that only aspires to remain in-power as the Country's Ruling Dictator. Thank you. Respectfully, Loren. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Whence Willard?
As in LENDER Low Energy Nuclear Disaster Eventually Running. Off topic pdx...@gmail.com (Jeff Berkowitz) /HTML
Re: [Vo]:New experiment started AC/DC
If at some point you think you see something, are you interested in making your data series (for both good and unsuccessful runs) available? Doing would have the following tradeoffs: + you would be helping to advance hobbyist science - you would no longer have the inside scoop into whatever is happening, making it harder to get priority on any potentially (very) lucrative patents. This question is also for any other amateurs attempting data acquisition. We could set up a site of some kind to host the data files. Eric Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2012, at 4:22, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: I have not yet tried KOH. Once I get all the kinks worked out of this, there is no reason I couldn't run several simultaneous electrolytic cells (recording data from all).
Re: [Vo]:New experiment started AC/DC
I have no problem with sharing--there has been too little of that so far. I've been planning at some point to set up a site to detail the work so others could do it if they would like. With the app I have written, there would be no problem with having it upload data to a server after the run is completed. What I am testing is having it automatically email the data to me as an attachment when it has finished. That way I know the experiment is complete, and I can take a look at the data. I would prefer to detail each piece of equipment involved and where to buy it, as that is helpful to the hobbyist like me. Jack On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: If at some point you think you see something, are you interested in making your data series (for both good and unsuccessful runs) available? Doing would have the following tradeoffs: + you would be helping to advance hobbyist science - you would no longer have the inside scoop into whatever is happening, making it harder to get priority on any potentially (very) lucrative patents. This question is also for any other amateurs attempting data acquisition. We could set up a site of some kind to host the data files. Eric Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2012, at 4:22, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: I have not yet tried KOH. Once I get all the kinks worked out of this, there is no reason I couldn't run several simultaneous electrolytic cells (recording data from all).
RE: [Vo]:The Quantum
From Ly: Schrödinger's cat is alive and had kittens: http://www.youtube.com/v/foIWltOShO0 http://www.youtube.com/v/foIWltOShO0 That was fun to watch. Mark Hugo seems to come across as an engineer who knows what he is talking about. Hope the ball keeps rolling on this one. It's been quite a while since I've browsed AAG. The web site has been significantly revised. A nice and clean layout. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:New experiment started AC/DC
This variety of experiment should measure, total energy input versus total energy output. To properly get this result, should not the hydrogen and oxygen be recombined to produce heat output? This energy of gas recombination should be added to the heat produced in the electrolyte solution for a proper comparison that might show over unity output. To simplify the details of the experiment, the volume of the gas produced by electrolysis could be measured and a calculation of its heat content might be used in calculation of total heat output of the electrolyte cell. Cheers: Axil On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: I have no problem with sharing--there has been too little of that so far. I've been planning at some point to set up a site to detail the work so others could do it if they would like. With the app I have written, there would be no problem with having it upload data to a server after the run is completed. What I am testing is having it automatically email the data to me as an attachment when it has finished. That way I know the experiment is complete, and I can take a look at the data. I would prefer to detail each piece of equipment involved and where to buy it, as that is helpful to the hobbyist like me. Jack On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.comwrote: If at some point you think you see something, are you interested in making your data series (for both good and unsuccessful runs) available? Doing would have the following tradeoffs: + you would be helping to advance hobbyist science - you would no longer have the inside scoop into whatever is happening, making it harder to get priority on any potentially (very) lucrative patents. This question is also for any other amateurs attempting data acquisition. We could set up a site of some kind to host the data files. Eric Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2012, at 4:22, Jack Cole jcol...@gmail.com wrote: I have not yet tried KOH. Once I get all the kinks worked out of this, there is no reason I couldn't run several simultaneous electrolytic cells (recording data from all).
Re: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan
Two weeks ago we talked about a note that Ed Storms and Brian Scanlan were passing around [1]. They are conducting an experiment using GM counters and have identified two signals for unknown species that are decaying. The half-lives are calculated to be 58 minutes and 109 minutes, respectively, and there is a question about whether the signals are for the same species. The note uses a process of elimination to suggest that the decaying species could be potassium-40. Normally potassium-40 has a half-life of 1.24E9 years, so something unusual would have to happen to cause it to decay more quickly. At the time I was wondering what species had half-lives in nature on the order of 58 to 109 minutes. There is a Wikipedia page that mentions nobelium-259 (58 minutes) and fluorine-18 (109 minutes) [2]. It turns out this page is quite incomplete. Using Mathematica, I was able to come up with a more complete list: IsotopeAtomic Number Decay Modes Half-life (m.) Fluorine18 9 β+ 109.771 Chlorine39 17β- 56.2 Argon4118β- 109.61 Scandium49 21β- 57.17 Cobalt61 27β- 99. Zinc69 30β- 56.33 Gallium68 31β+ 67.72 Germanium7532β- 82.78 Germanium7832β- 88. Arsenic70 33β+ 52.67 Arsenic78 33β- 90.67 Bromine75 35β+ 97. Krypton77 36β+ 74.33 Krypton87 36β- 76.33 Strontium8038β+ 106.3 Zirconium8740β+ 100.8 Niobium97 41β- 72.17 Ruthenium9444β+ 51.83 Ruthenium9544β+ 98.58 Silver103 47β+ 65.67 Silver104 47β+ 69.17 Cadmium104 48β+ 57.67 Cadmium105 48β+ 55.5 Cadmium118 48β- 50.33 Indium108 49β+ 58. Tin128 50β- 59.07 Tellurium117 52β+, PE 62. Tellurium129 52β- 69.67 Iodine120 53β+ 82. Iodine134 53β- 52.5 Barium126 56β+ 1.e2 Barium139 56β- 83.06 Lanthanum131 57β+ 58. Lanthanum142 57β- 91.17 Cerium133 58β+ 97. Praseodymium13759β+ 76.83 Neodymium136 60β+ 50.67 Neodymium149 60β- 103.7 Samarium14262β+ 72.48 Terbium147 65β+ 1.e2 Terbium148 65β+ 60. Holmium156 67β+ 57. Erbium163 68β+ 75. Thulium163 69β+ 108.6 Ytterbium164 70EC 75.83 Ytterbium177 70β- 114.7 Ytterbium178 70β- 73. Lutetium16771β+ 51.5 Hafnium183 72β- 64.02 Tantalum17473β+ 68. Osmium181 76β+ 1.1e2 Iridium183 77β+, α 57. Platinum18578β+, α 70.83 Thallium19581β+ 69.67 Thallium19681β+ 110.3 Lead19982β+ 90. Bismuth201 83β+, α 103. Bismuth202 83β+, α 103. Bismuth212 83β-, α, β-+α 60.55 Polonium20584β+, α 104. Astatine20785β+, α 1.1e2 Astatine20885β+, α 97.83 Radon224 86β- 107. Radium230 88β- 93. Actinium22989β- 62.67 Protactinium23991β- 1.1e2 Uranium229 92β+, α 58. Neptunium240 93β- 61.83 Americium237 95β+, α 73. Americium238 95β+, α 98. Curium249 96β- 64.15 Berkelium251 97β- 55.67 Californium255 98β-, F, α85. Einsteinium249 99β+, α
RE: [Vo]:New paper by Storms and Scanlan
Eric, From Wikipedia, the isotope of fluorine 17 has a half life of 64.49s. This value is close to the 58sfrom the report of Ed Storms and Brian Scanlan. Can we also consider also the reaction 16O + p - 17F as a possibilities? Arnaud
