Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Dingemans
Hi, On 9-2-2013 1:19, Edmund Storms wrote: On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Rob Dingemans wrote: I disagree, I think Andrea already did prove his claims. The problem is only that almost nobody seems to understand what is going on. So Rob, you think Andre has proven his claims in many minds. You

[Vo]:first in coal now on Mars

2013-02-09 Thread fznidarsic
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/07/mars-rover-spots-metallic-arm_n_2637990.html

Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
Chuck, consider these issues. First, the BEC between atoms has not been shown to occur except near absolute zero. The claim for such a structure between hypothetical particles based on a form of concentrated energy within a structure really does not apply. Second. once a BEC forms, why

Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:58 AM, Rob Dingemans wrote: Hi, On 9-2-2013 1:19, Edmund Storms wrote: On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Rob Dingemans wrote: I disagree, I think Andrea already did prove his claims. The problem is only that almost nobody seems to understand what is going on. So Rob,

Re: [Vo]:George Miley up for ARPA-E funding

2013-02-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote: In my opinion is what Andrea has discovered to good to be true and therefore most people won't accept Andrea's findings, even when it bites them in their noses. I disagree. Many people would believe him without reservations if he would only do a

RE: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

2013-02-09 Thread Jones Beene
From: Edmund Storms What constitutes a boson is even uncertain in such a structure. That is the bare truth, like it or not. In point of fact - the determination of “boson” identity – whether nuclear, atomic, molecular, or composite bosons - now borders on the ludicrous.

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread pagnucco
Eric, It's good to hear Ron Maimon is trying to develop this theory. But, the math is truly confusing, bewildering and intimidating - even to formulate the problem, let alone solve it. When composite particles are involved, calculating tunneling probability is almost intractable - even in free

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
The problem Eric is that once the math is solved, the expected nuclear reaction is hot fusion, not cold fusion. Consequently, this effort is a waste of time. This is something the hot fusion field needs to understand to explain the effect of bombarding materials with energetic deuterons.

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread pagnucco
Ed, I assume you are referring to Maimon's theory, which I am not familiar with. When you say the expected reaction is hot fusion, are you only referring to highly energetic collisions? Do you think the theory X.Z.Li, et al, involving resonant tunneling (at low kinetic energy), allegedly

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
Lou, Any theory that proposes to use tunneling based on electrons being concentrated must at the same time show how the resulting energy is dissipated. Such energy is dissipated normally by the fusion product breaking into two parts, which go off with high energy in directions required

Re: [Vo]:Urgent: Until Feb9, can vote for Dr Miley 10kw LENR Thermal Electric Generator

2013-02-09 Thread Rob Dingemans
Hi, Anyone any idea of the end result of the voting? Kind regards, Rob Energy Ξ Communication

Re: [Vo]:Urgent: Until Feb9, can vote for Dr Miley 10kw LENR Thermal Electric Generator

2013-02-09 Thread Moab Moab
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Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
Experiments by Piantelli and information about early Rossi systems indicate that a cold LENR system will produce high energy radiation, but a hot system will not. How can we understand the physical meaning of these experimental results? It has been shown that coherent EMF in the form of

[Vo]:The Hunts on local TV

2013-02-09 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5dmEBbKtHo attachment: winmail.dat

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Axil Axil wrote: Experiments by Piantelli and information about early Rossi systems indicate that a cold LENR system will produce high energy radiation, but a hot system will not. Alix, this statement does not describe the evidence. All we know is what

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
*Yes, but all of these processes you describe are done near absolute zero while using complex apparatus. This has no relationship to cold fusion.* http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/02/bose-einstein-condensate-created-at-room-temperature/ From the article: Bose-Einstein condensate created at

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
*This description has no justification in theory or in observation. Coherent motion of atoms does no occur spontaneously in a lattice.* Here is where the size of the micro-particle becomes important. A 5 micron particle will resonate coherently at a temperature of about 400C, Nano particles

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
*If the coherent motion of the lattice is not robust enough, the radiation produced by the nuclear reactions will be unmodified by the cold lattice and escape as gamma rays.* *I have no idea what you are describing by the above comment.* In my post titled “Right Sizing Nickel Particles” I

Re: [Vo]:nanocavities

2013-02-09 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Ed, On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Any theory that proposes to use tunneling based on electrons being concentrated must at the same time show how the resulting energy is dissipated. This appears to be different from what Ron Maimon is proposing.

Re: [Vo]:Pumped storage hydroelectricity goes well with wind energy

2013-02-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:47:10 -0500: Hi, [snip] Here is a ring island proposal for pumped hydro in the North Sea. This is basically a large hole in the ocean: http://www.hydroworld.com/articles/2013/january/belgium-considers-ring-island-energy-storage-scheme.html

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-09 Thread mixent
In reply to de Bivort Lawrence's message of Thu, 7 Feb 2013 23:28:29 -0500: Hi, Wouldn't blowing up an asteroid merely create a lot of smaller pieces raining down on earth, with only a few deflected into non-collision paths. If the pieces are small enough, they will burn up in the atmosphere

Re: [Vo]:The Hunts on local TV

2013-02-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
You gotta love those people! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Near earth asteroid info

2013-02-09 Thread David Roberson
This would be true if the pieces came down over a large area and at a moderate number per hour. I suspect that a large mass of individual pieces coming down close together would behave a lot like one big one. The energy contained within the large mass of individual meteorites would be about

Re: [Vo]:The Hunts on local TV

2013-02-09 Thread David Roberson
Yep, a great bunch of guys. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 11:17 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Hunts on local TV You gotta love those people! - Jed