Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
There are some more dots to connect. http://www.livescience.com/29111-speed-of-light-not-constant.html Speed of Light May Not Be Constant, Physicists Say The speed of light is constant, or so textbooks say. But some scientists are exploring the possibility that this cosmic speed limit changes, a consequence of the nature of the vacuum of space. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average maximum speed of light through the vacuum. In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of negative vacuum energy. If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton I segest this experiment with the EmDrive to verify this theory of time acceleration. Place a gamma emmiting isotope inside an EmDrive enclosure where the microwave interference is descriptive. If the rate of gamma production is reduced and/or the half-life of the isotope is reduced then the effects of negative vacuum energy on time will be verified both in the EmDrive and in LENR. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: We don't know enough to answer the question because we don't know enough about the origin of the force. Even if it is relativistic as Shawyer claims and the spatial area occupied by the device modifies the encompassed inertial frames that breach the isotropy there remains a strong likelihood that an equal and opposite frame is created and the device is only able to directionalize gravity to produce thrust..NOT able to accumulate a buoyancy. IMHO his use of the term thrust is probably correct and that we won't get a bubble from microwaves in a shaped cavity. Fran -Original Message- From: Bob Cook
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average maximum speed of light through the vacuum. In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of negative vacuum energy. If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton I segest this experiment with the EmDrive to verify this theory of time acceleration. Place a gamma emmiting isotope inside an EmDrive enclosure where the microwave interference is descriptive. If the rate of gamma production is reduced and/or the half-life of the isotope is reduced then the effects of negative vacuum energy on time will be verified both in the EmDrive and in LENR. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: We don't know enough to answer the question because we don't know enough about the origin of the force. Even if it is relativistic as Shawyer claims and the spatial area occupied by the device modifies the encompassed inertial frames that breach the isotropy there remains a strong likelihood that an equal and opposite frame is created and the device is only able to directionalize gravity to produce thrust..NOT able to accumulate a buoyancy. IMHO his use of the term thrust is probably correct and that we won't get a bubble from microwaves in a shaped cavity. Fran -Original Message- From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:50 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit Hovering does not violate Newton's laws IMHO. Energy and momentum are conserved. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: mix...@bigpond.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
Axil, welcome aboard, it’s been lonely on this limb and you are much more suited than I to reinforce and champion the relativistic theory than I. You added another great insight in this post [snip] LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion.[/snip] .. everyone focuses on the cavity and the negative vacuum pressure as the active region but you additionally suggest the larger surrounding geometry [positive vacuum] responsible for the cavity provides gamma screening. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 2:34 AM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average maximum speed of light through the vacuum. In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of negative vacuum energy. If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton I segest this experiment with the EmDrive to verify this theory of time acceleration. Place a gamma emmiting isotope inside an EmDrive enclosure where the microwave interference is descriptive. If the rate of gamma production is reduced and/or the half-life of the isotope is reduced then the effects of negative vacuum energy on time will be verified both in the EmDrive and in LENR. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: We don't know enough to answer the question because we don't know enough about the origin of the force. Even if it is relativistic as Shawyer claims and the spatial area occupied by the device
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
This is a quantum vacuum disturbance, not a hot and cold disturbance. It decays. Our weather is the effect we see in our dimensions of space, which is emergent. https://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/waterspout-sunset-key-1.jpg https://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/download.png On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, welcome aboard, it’s been lonely on this limb and you are much more suited than I to reinforce and champion the relativistic theory than I. You added another great insight in this post [snip] LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion.[/snip] .. everyone focuses on the cavity and the negative vacuum pressure as the active region but you additionally suggest the larger surrounding geometry [positive vacuum] responsible for the cavity provides gamma screening. Fran *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 2:34 AM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average maximum speed of light through the vacuum. In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of negative vacuum energy. If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton I segest this experiment with the EmDrive to verify this theory of time acceleration. Place a gamma emmiting isotope inside an EmDrive enclosure where the microwave interference is descriptive. If the rate of gamma production is reduced and/or
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
Yes! C is relative to the frame. We already know C becomes relative WRT gravity wells and near C spatial displacement but no one took Jan Naudts literally when his 05 paper claimed hydrinos were relativistic hydrogen. Note this would NOT be a gravity well giving hydrogen near C equivalence but rather a warp equivalence imparted to hydrogen in the “zones” . IMHO warp G equivalence is far easier to achieve than Well G equivalence although only at nano scale and only in partitioned zones or pockets of equal and opposite value. You don’t need to apply energy , you are instead shielding a zone with nano geometry..and to go all the way out on my limb the larger- longer, particle-waves are still present but rotated inside the cavity such that from their own local perspective they remain unchanged [exchanging space for time]. Any hydrogen then passing thru the cavity takes on this equivalent negative acceleration and appears to shrink from our perspective. Somehow you need to establish linkage to this altered hydrogen to extract energy from this negative acceleration or the opportunity will be lost when the hydrogen migrates out of the cavity.. somehow Rossi is making that trip asymmetrical. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 2:47 AM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit There are some more dots to connect. http://www.livescience.com/29111-speed-of-light-not-constant.html Speed of Light May Not Be Constant, Physicists Say The speed of light is constant, or so textbooks say. But some scientists are exploring the possibility that this cosmic speed limit changes, a consequence of the nature of the vacuum of space. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.commailto:janap...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average maximum speed of light through the vacuum. In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of negative vacuum energy. If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
From a previous post except in part as follows: have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons on the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can change the half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 microseconds. It also causes thorium to fission. See references: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CC4QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1112.6276ei=nI6UUeG1Fq-N0QGypIAgusg=AFQjCNFB59F1wkDv-NzeYg5TpnyZV1kpKQsig2=fhdWJ_enNKlLA4HboFBTUAbvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ Experiments showing the same mechanism as listed below: Laser-induced synthesis and decay of Tritium under exposure of solid targets in heavy water http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.0830 Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au nanoparticles in the presence of Thorium aqua ions http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4268.pdf === In these experiments, nano geometry converts light energy from the laser into vortex motion of electrons in a nanoplasmonic soliton produced on the surface of the gold nanoparticles. Without the gold nanoparticles, laser light alone is ineffectual in this type of experiment. The soliton produces the separation of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. It also forces the entanglement of the soliton with the U232 nucleus by pumping energy into the vacuum. This vacuum energy pumping using EMF energy from microwaves also happens in the EmDrive system. - In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures. Rossi has used a nickel based catalatic micro particle and amplified its effects by using nanoparticles of lithium to amplify the catalatic time acceleration effect to a huge amount. This amplification is done through SPP asymmetric coupling, where a large soliton feeds energy superconductively into a series of smaller solitons...like a transformer. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, You also mentioned [snip] In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton[/snip] I don’t know how these experiments were performed but I suspect that only a small portion of the radioactive gas can be in the most negative zones at a time such that the effect is actually greater still.. even if fully contained in a cavity [instead of cycled thru], only the gas migrating into the most confined tapestry of the nano geometry [1/plate spacing^3] would receive the realativistic levels of dilation. Fran *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 2:34 AM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average
RE: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Blaze: I agree. In addition, if life expectancy suddenly got extended significantly, it would so completely and irrevocably change the way we think and act, that these parochial attitudes would be as obsolete as the dodo bird. They would be replaced by a whole new set of behavior. It is amazing to me how people extrapolate certain societal characteristics to new paradigms without understanding that the paradigm itself would alter things irrevocably. From: Blaze Spinnaker [mailto:blazespinna...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:40 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Geez, that's pretty grim! Are you a part of some death cult? There's a lot of great ways a law respecting society can ensure a fresh evolution of ideas. Death doesn't have to be one of them. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com mailto:gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. Yeah? What makes you think the creative productive people would be preserved? No way! It would be the wealthy and brutal people. If we had this in the 20th century, Stalin would still be in charge of Russia. J. Gould and the other robber barons would still be running Wall Street. The Kim family would run North Korea forever. In cold fusion, opponents such as Huizenga would make policy for the next 500 years, and they would never allow research. Young people would never be able to contribute, or even grow up. Even James Watt became an impediment to progress at the end of his life. Death leads to turnover. It gives young people with fresh perspectives a chance. Most great science is done by young people. If the old scientists never get out the way, new ideas will never be published. I agree with Max Planck. Death is sad for the individual, but it is a blessing to society, and it is essential. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
In addition, if life expectancy suddenly got extended significantly, it would so completely and irrevocably change the way we think and act, that these parochial attitudes would be as obsolete as the dodo bird. Exactly ! Talking about revolutions in thinking. The idea that death is good and necessary is so ingrained in many people that is not even a paradigm is some kind of mental block, a spell and sometime I think almost a form of mental illness (that was imposed on us by the social environment almost as a kind pollution). People don't even realize that the future will bring us many ways to enhance human life via augmentation so it is not just about keeping people young, vibrant, active but also improving intelligence, learning and even ethical standards. Even if these goals are not achieved in the immediate future they should be sought as ultimate fundamental rights. Death even natural death by aging (there is no such a thing really given that aging is a neglect by nature not something that is really programmed) is an imposition on the human spirit and it should be eliminated. This should be our highest goal. If you think correctly everything we do is an effort to push away death. When you eat, sleep and so on you do it to preserve your well being. The entire field of medicine is devoted to this effort even if there are few doctors that explicitly understand that the ultimate goal is not to defeat this or that illness but death itself. Even in medical doctor the mental illness of deathism is too ingrained for them to understand what is the ultimate consequence of their profession. There have been many studies showing that extending lives is actually a powerful economic buster and in fact actually a solution to overpopulation given that long lives in almost every country correlates with lower birth rates. The countries that contribute most to population growths are the poor countries with very short average life spans. But radical life extension would bring the most profound revolution ever in our way to think about ourselves and the universe. It would make us dream big and make us project our life over time scales where almost anything could be achieved both at the individual and social level. So please dream big and leave behind this incredible mental prison that is the idea that death is good and necessary. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com wrote: Blaze: I agree. In addition, if life expectancy suddenly got extended significantly, it would so completely and irrevocably change the way we think and act, that these parochial attitudes would be as obsolete as the dodo bird. They would be replaced by a whole new set of behavior. It is amazing to me how people extrapolate certain societal characteristics to new paradigms without understanding that the paradigm itself would alter things irrevocably. *From:* Blaze Spinnaker [mailto:blazespinna...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 9:40 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Geez, that's pretty grim! Are you a part of some death cult? There's a lot of great ways a law respecting society can ensure a fresh evolution of ideas. Death doesn't have to be one of them. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. Yeah? What makes you think the creative productive people would be preserved? No way! It would be the wealthy and brutal people. If we had this in the 20th century, Stalin would still be in charge of Russia. J. Gould and the other robber barons would still be running Wall Street. The Kim family would run North Korea forever. In cold fusion, opponents such as Huizenga would make policy for the next 500 years, and they would never allow research. Young people would never be able to contribute, or even grow up. Even James Watt became an impediment to progress at the end of his life. Death leads to turnover. It gives young people with fresh perspectives a chance. Most great science is done by young people. If the old scientists never get out the way, new ideas will never be published. I agree with Max Planck. Death is sad for the individual, but it is a blessing to society, and it is essential. - Jed
RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
Axil, You also mentioned [snip] In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton[/snip] I don’t know how these experiments were performed but I suspect that only a small portion of the radioactive gas can be in the most negative zones at a time such that the effect is actually greater still.. even if fully contained in a cavity [instead of cycled thru], only the gas migrating into the most confined tapestry of the nano geometry [1/plate spacing^3] would receive the realativistic levels of dilation. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 2:34 AM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average maximum speed of light through the vacuum. In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of negative vacuum energy. If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton I segest this experiment with the EmDrive to verify this theory of time acceleration. Place a gamma emmiting isotope inside an EmDrive enclosure where the microwave interference is descriptive. If the rate of gamma production is reduced and/or the half-life of the isotope is reduced then the effects of negative vacuum energy on time will be verified both in the EmDrive and in LENR. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:02
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
The reaction force would be transferred to the virtual particles that form in the vacuum. That force would accelerate these particles in a direction that opposes the force of propulsion produced by the EmDrive. When those virtual particles eventually encounter their antiparticle, the energy that comprises their mass would be produced energy from particle/antiparticle annihilation. Also all the energy added by the application of EMF would go into the vacuum. This positive energy added to the vacuum would be countered by the development of negative vacuum energy in and around the surface of the earth. Such negative vacuum energy excess may speed up the passage of time on the earth and increase the speed of light there. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:08 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not mistaken about the gravitational impact of a fleet of flying cars suspended in the air by a reactionless propulsion, the earth would face many millions or billions of tons of net force pushing on it. The question is how long would this take to effect the earth's orbit significantly? Days? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millenna? At any rate it would eventually disturb the earth's current orbit dramatically. Something to be cautious of. John On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 6:26 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, one more jump and you will be out on the limb as far as me :_ you said [snip] In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures.[/snip].. I agree and even suggest that ALL catalytic action is based on geometry – not as powerful as a skeletal catalyst or nano powders [we don’t need relativistic levels of negative vacuum pressure to shake things up/catalyze], dynamic changes in geometry at even small Casimir levels will still oppose random motion , even looping forever in a closed irregular cavity should generate friction for trapped ambient gas [don’t ask about levitating pyramid calcium -lime blocks yet :_)]– forcing random motion [HUP] to accelerate chemical reactions thru changes in confinement. I think that simple catalytic action is actually a Heisenberg trap based on lesser geometry. It puts random motion of liquids and gas into opposition with smaller changes in negative vacuum pressure. [in supra catalysts we would call this dynamic Casimir effect and the confinement is sufficient that we hear of radioactive half lives being altered in both directions which IMHO is based on which type of partition [+ or -] the radioactive particle happens to favor based on it’s shape atomic or molecular]. In normal catalysts I don’t think the radioactive decay differential is significant – just like Lorentzian contraction and time dilation only occur near hi fractions of C, I think dilation of radioactive half lifes require a supra catalyst BUT catalytic action derives most of it’s power to drive reactions from sharp changes in the vacuum pressure packed closely together – since the geometry is stationary it requires a moving medium and sharp irregular shaped geometries pressed close together – the same as nano powders and skeletal cats but less critical and less powerful. Citations: a 2009 paper, “Pinpointing catalytic reactions on carbon nanotubes http://www.physorg.com/news159199255.html “, by Peng Chen et all from Cornell Univercity in which researchers discovered that catalytic action only occurs when this nanogeometry CHANGES at the openings and defects of a nanotube. Cavity QED http://www.actaphys.uj.edu.pl/_old/vol27/pdf/v27p2409.pdf , And My blog http://froarty.scienceblog.com/32155/relativistic-interpertation-of-casimir-effect-expanded/ Fran *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 12:08 PM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit From a previous post except in part as follows: have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons on the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can change the half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 microseconds. It also causes thorium to fission. See references: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CC4QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1112.6276ei=nI6UUeG1Fq-N0QGypIAgusg=AFQjCNFB59F1wkDv-NzeYg5TpnyZV1kpKQsig2=fhdWJ_enNKlLA4HboFBTUAbvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ Experiments showing the same mechanism as listed below: Laser-induced synthesis and decay of Tritium under exposure of solid targets in heavy water http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.0830 Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au nanoparticles in the presence of Thorium aqua ions http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4268.pdf === In these experiments, nano geometry
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
I'm not mistaken about the gravitational impact of a fleet of flying cars suspended in the air by a reactionless propulsion, the earth would face many millions or billions of tons of net force pushing on it. The question is how long would this take to effect the earth's orbit significantly? Days? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millenna? At any rate it would eventually disturb the earth's current orbit dramatically. Something to be cautious of. John On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 6:26 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, one more jump and you will be out on the limb as far as me :_ you said [snip] In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures.[/snip].. I agree and even suggest that ALL catalytic action is based on geometry – not as powerful as a skeletal catalyst or nano powders [we don’t need relativistic levels of negative vacuum pressure to shake things up/catalyze], dynamic changes in geometry at even small Casimir levels will still oppose random motion , even looping forever in a closed irregular cavity should generate friction for trapped ambient gas [don’t ask about levitating pyramid calcium -lime blocks yet :_)]– forcing random motion [HUP] to accelerate chemical reactions thru changes in confinement. I think that simple catalytic action is actually a Heisenberg trap based on lesser geometry. It puts random motion of liquids and gas into opposition with smaller changes in negative vacuum pressure. [in supra catalysts we would call this dynamic Casimir effect and the confinement is sufficient that we hear of radioactive half lives being altered in both directions which IMHO is based on which type of partition [+ or -] the radioactive particle happens to favor based on it’s shape atomic or molecular]. In normal catalysts I don’t think the radioactive decay differential is significant – just like Lorentzian contraction and time dilation only occur near hi fractions of C, I think dilation of radioactive half lifes require a supra catalyst BUT catalytic action derives most of it’s power to drive reactions from sharp changes in the vacuum pressure packed closely together – since the geometry is stationary it requires a moving medium and sharp irregular shaped geometries pressed close together – the same as nano powders and skeletal cats but less critical and less powerful. Citations: a 2009 paper, “Pinpointing catalytic reactions on carbon nanotubes http://www.physorg.com/news159199255.html “, by Peng Chen et all from Cornell Univercity in which researchers discovered that catalytic action only occurs when this nanogeometry CHANGES at the openings and defects of a nanotube. Cavity QED http://www.actaphys.uj.edu.pl/_old/vol27/pdf/v27p2409.pdf , And My blog http://froarty.scienceblog.com/32155/relativistic-interpertation-of-casimir-effect-expanded/ Fran *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 12:08 PM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit From a previous post except in part as follows: have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons on the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can change the half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 microseconds. It also causes thorium to fission. See references: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CC4QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1112.6276ei=nI6UUeG1Fq-N0QGypIAgusg=AFQjCNFB59F1wkDv-NzeYg5TpnyZV1kpKQsig2=fhdWJ_enNKlLA4HboFBTUAbvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ Experiments showing the same mechanism as listed below: Laser-induced synthesis and decay of Tritium under exposure of solid targets in heavy water http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.0830 Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au nanoparticles in the presence of Thorium aqua ions http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4268.pdf === In these experiments, nano geometry converts light energy from the laser into vortex motion of electrons in a nanoplasmonic soliton produced on the surface of the gold nanoparticles. Without the gold nanoparticles, laser light alone is ineffectual in this type of experiment. The soliton produces the separation of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. It also forces the entanglement of the soliton with the U232 nucleus by pumping energy into the vacuum. This vacuum energy pumping using EMF energy from microwaves also happens in the EmDrive system. - In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures. Rossi has used a nickel based catalatic micro particle and amplified its effects by
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Geez, that's pretty grim! Are you a part of some death cult? There's a lot of great ways a law respecting society can ensure a fresh evolution of ideas. Death doesn't have to be one of them. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. Yeah? What makes you think the creative productive people would be preserved? No way! It would be the wealthy and brutal people. If we had this in the 20th century, Stalin would still be in charge of Russia. J. Gould and the other robber barons would still be running Wall Street. The Kim family would run North Korea forever. In cold fusion, opponents such as Huizenga would make policy for the next 500 years, and they would never allow research. Young people would never be able to contribute, or even grow up. Even James Watt became an impediment to progress at the end of his life. Death leads to turnover. It gives young people with fresh perspectives a chance. Most great science is done by young people. If the old scientists never get out the way, new ideas will never be published. I agree with Max Planck. Death is sad for the individual, but it is a blessing to society, and it is essential. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
True religion -- religion without quotation marks -- must incorporate sex which includes death as part of our billion year heritage as multicellular organisms. There is, however, a conflict between the evolution of eusociality (as in insects and civilizations) and sex manifest in the ultimate expression of eusociality in parasitically castrated sterile castes in, for example, ants, bees and termites as well as naked mole rats. People think the distinction between social and eusocial evolution is merely a zoological curiosity, but the man who is perhaps the world's foremost authority on eusociality has written his magnum opus declaring eusociality to be The Social Conquest of Earth http://longnow.org/seminars/02012/apr/20/social-conquest-earth/. No one who cares about the biosphere and preservation of its diversity can responsibly ignore his warning. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Geez, that's pretty grim! Are you a part of some death cult? There's a lot of great ways a law respecting society can ensure a fresh evolution of ideas. Death doesn't have to be one of them. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. Yeah? What makes you think the creative productive people would be preserved? No way! It would be the wealthy and brutal people. If we had this in the 20th century, Stalin would still be in charge of Russia. J. Gould and the other robber barons would still be running Wall Street. The Kim family would run North Korea forever. In cold fusion, opponents such as Huizenga would make policy for the next 500 years, and they would never allow research. Young people would never be able to contribute, or even grow up. Even James Watt became an impediment to progress at the end of his life. Death leads to turnover. It gives young people with fresh perspectives a chance. Most great science is done by young people. If the old scientists never get out the way, new ideas will never be published. I agree with Max Planck. Death is sad for the individual, but it is a blessing to society, and it is essential. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Yes, and Rossi is not a spring chicken, attesting to the creativity and productivity of people with several years of experience under their belt. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:17 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: At the rate that Rossi and the other applications for LENR are advancing we might all need an extension if we are to see the fruit of our labors. Let's work hard to speed up the progress. Dave -Original Message- From: Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 15, 2015 11:35 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Blaze: I agree. In addition, if life expectancy suddenly got extended significantly, it would so completely and irrevocably change the way we think and act, that these parochial attitudes would be as obsolete as the dodo bird. They would be replaced by a whole new set of behavior. It is amazing to me how people extrapolate certain societal characteristics to new paradigms without understanding that the paradigm itself would alter things irrevocably. *From:* Blaze Spinnaker [mailto:blazespinna...@gmail.com blazespinna...@gmail.com?] *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 9:40 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Geez, that's pretty grim! Are you a part of some death cult? There's a lot of great ways a law respecting society can ensure a fresh evolution of ideas. Death doesn't have to be one of them. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. Yeah? What makes you think the creative productive people would be preserved? No way! It would be the wealthy and brutal people. If we had this in the 20th century, Stalin would still be in charge of Russia. J. Gould and the other robber barons would still be running Wall Street. The Kim family would run North Korea forever. In cold fusion, opponents such as Huizenga would make policy for the next 500 years, and they would never allow research. Young people would never be able to contribute, or even grow up. Even James Watt became an impediment to progress at the end of his life. Death leads to turnover. It gives young people with fresh perspectives a chance. Most great science is done by young people. If the old scientists never get out the way, new ideas will never be published. I agree with Max Planck. Death is sad for the individual, but it is a blessing to society, and it is essential. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
I suspect that a force of this nature will balance out in the long run due to the rotation of the Earth. Dave -Original Message- From: John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 15, 2015 7:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit I'm not mistaken about the gravitational impact of a fleet of flying cars suspended in the air by a reactionless propulsion, the earth would face many millions or billions of tons of net force pushing on it. The question is how long would this take to effect the earth's orbit significantly? Days? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millenna? At any rate it would eventually disturb the earth's current orbit dramatically. Something to be cautious of. John On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 6:26 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, one more jump and you will be out on the limb as far as me :_ you said [snip] In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures.[/snip].. I agree and even suggest that ALL catalytic action is based on geometry – not as powerful as a skeletal catalyst or nano powders [we don’t need relativistic levels of negative vacuum pressure to shake things up/catalyze], dynamic changes in geometry at even small Casimir levels will still oppose random motion , even looping forever in a closed irregular cavity should generate friction for trapped ambient gas [don’t ask about levitating pyramid calcium -lime blocks yet :_)]– forcing random motion [HUP] to accelerate chemical reactions thru changes in confinement. I think that simple catalytic action is actually a Heisenberg trap based on lesser geometry. It puts random motion of liquids and gas into opposition with smaller changes in negative vacuum pressure. [in supra catalysts we would call this dynamic Casimir effect and the confinement is sufficient that we hear of radioactive half lives being altered in both directions which IMHO is based on which type of partition [+ or -] the radioactive particle happens to favor based on it’s shape atomic or molecular]. In normal catalysts I don’t think the radioactive decay differential is significant – just like Lorentzian contraction and time dilation only occur near hi fractions of C, I think dilation of radioactive half lifes require a supra catalyst BUT catalytic action derives most of it’s power to drive reactions from sharp changes in the vacuum pressure packed closely together – since the geometry is stationary it requires a moving medium and sharp irregular shaped geometries pressed close together – the same as nano powders and skeletal cats but less critical and less powerful. Citations: a 2009 paper, “Pinpointing catalytic reactions on carbon nanotubes “, by Peng Chen et all from Cornell Univercity in which researchers discovered that catalytic action only occurs when this nanogeometry CHANGES at the openings and defects of a nanotube. Cavity QED , And My blog http://froarty.scienceblog.com/32155/relativistic-interpertation-of-casimir-effect-expanded/ Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 12:08 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit From a previous post except in part as follows: have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons on the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can change the half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 microseconds. It also causes thorium to fission. See references: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CC4QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1112.6276ei=nI6UUeG1Fq-N0QGypIAgusg=AFQjCNFB59F1wkDv-NzeYg5TpnyZV1kpKQsig2=fhdWJ_enNKlLA4HboFBTUAbvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ Experiments showing the same mechanism as listed below: Laser-induced synthesis and decay of Tritium under exposure of solid targets in heavy water http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.0830 Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au nanoparticles in the presence of Thorium aqua ions http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4268.pdf === In these experiments, nano geometry converts light energy from the laser into vortex motion of electrons in a nanoplasmonic soliton produced on the surface of the gold nanoparticles. Without the
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
http://news.discovery.com/space/a-laser-to-rip-apart-spacetime-create-ghosts-02.htm SPACE http://news.discovery.com/space A Laser to Give the Universe a Hernia? it is hoped that theorized “ghost particles” may spill from the fissure, providing evidence for the hypothesis that extra-dimensions exist and the vacuum of space isn’t a vacuum at all — it is in fact buzzing with*virtual particles*. I beleive that we are doing this already in LENR. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The reaction force would be transferred to the virtual particles that form in the vacuum. That force would accelerate these particles in a direction that opposes the force of propulsion produced by the EmDrive. When those virtual particles eventually encounter their antiparticle, the energy that comprises their mass would be produced energy from particle/antiparticle annihilation. Also all the energy added by the application of EMF would go into the vacuum. This positive energy added to the vacuum would be countered by the development of negative vacuum energy in and around the surface of the earth. Such negative vacuum energy excess may speed up the passage of time on the earth and increase the speed of light there. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:08 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not mistaken about the gravitational impact of a fleet of flying cars suspended in the air by a reactionless propulsion, the earth would face many millions or billions of tons of net force pushing on it. The question is how long would this take to effect the earth's orbit significantly? Days? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millenna? At any rate it would eventually disturb the earth's current orbit dramatically. Something to be cautious of. John On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 6:26 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, one more jump and you will be out on the limb as far as me :_ you said [snip] In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures.[/snip].. I agree and even suggest that ALL catalytic action is based on geometry – not as powerful as a skeletal catalyst or nano powders [we don’t need relativistic levels of negative vacuum pressure to shake things up/catalyze], dynamic changes in geometry at even small Casimir levels will still oppose random motion , even looping forever in a closed irregular cavity should generate friction for trapped ambient gas [don’t ask about levitating pyramid calcium -lime blocks yet :_)]– forcing random motion [HUP] to accelerate chemical reactions thru changes in confinement. I think that simple catalytic action is actually a Heisenberg trap based on lesser geometry. It puts random motion of liquids and gas into opposition with smaller changes in negative vacuum pressure. [in supra catalysts we would call this dynamic Casimir effect and the confinement is sufficient that we hear of radioactive half lives being altered in both directions which IMHO is based on which type of partition [+ or -] the radioactive particle happens to favor based on it’s shape atomic or molecular]. In normal catalysts I don’t think the radioactive decay differential is significant – just like Lorentzian contraction and time dilation only occur near hi fractions of C, I think dilation of radioactive half lifes require a supra catalyst BUT catalytic action derives most of it’s power to drive reactions from sharp changes in the vacuum pressure packed closely together – since the geometry is stationary it requires a moving medium and sharp irregular shaped geometries pressed close together – the same as nano powders and skeletal cats but less critical and less powerful. Citations: a 2009 paper, “Pinpointing catalytic reactions on carbon nanotubes http://www.physorg.com/news159199255.html “, by Peng Chen et all from Cornell Univercity in which researchers discovered that catalytic action only occurs when this nanogeometry CHANGES at the openings and defects of a nanotube. Cavity QED http://www.actaphys.uj.edu.pl/_old/vol27/pdf/v27p2409.pdf , And My blog http://froarty.scienceblog.com/32155/relativistic-interpertation-of-casimir-effect-expanded/ Fran *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 12:08 PM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit From a previous post except in part as follows: have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons on the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can change the half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 microseconds. It also causes thorium to fission. See references:
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
One test that I would expect to see performed upon the laser passing through an active EM Drive is simple yet revealing. Why not amplitude modulate the RF field within the cavity while the laser light is passing through? This should phase modulate the laser beam in a well defined manner. An interferometer would be able to detect the phase modulation and could be used to establish exactly how the RF signal within the drive effects travel time as a function of its amplitude. If there is zero modulation then the previous measurements are in error. As a second idea, how should a static large amplitude electric field or magnetic field modify the passing laser light? I have never heard of any experiment that demonstrates this particular effect, but most likely someone has. Microwaves within a resonate cavity set up a standing wave pattern. The reflections between the end surfaces cause the time domain waveform at any particular location within the cavity to vary in a sinusoidal manner. Both the magnetic component and the electric component appear like a sine wave that varies between the same maximum negative and positive peak values with time at a point in space. Static electric fields or static magnetic fields are merely at zero hertz instead of at microwave frequencies. One might ask why zero hertz behaves differently than some higher RF frequency? Of course a follow up question is:At what frequency does the effect disappear? And, how does it vary as the RF frequency is adjusted? There are many questions that people familiar with microwaves can ask, but for the moment this is enough. Dave -Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 15, 2015 11:26 am Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit Axil, You also mentioned [snip] In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton[/snip] I don’t know how these experiments were performed but I suspect that only a small portion of the radioactive gas can be in the most negative zones at a time such that the effect is actually greater still.. even if fully contained in a cavity [instead of cycled thru], only the gas migrating into the most confined tapestry of the nano geometry [1/plate spacing^3] would receive the realativistic levels of dilation. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 2:34 AM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the false vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
At the rate that Rossi and the other applications for LENR are advancing we might all need an extension if we are to see the fruit of our labors. Let's work hard to speed up the progress. Dave -Original Message- From: Randy Wuller rwul...@freeark.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 15, 2015 11:35 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Blaze: I agree. In addition, if life expectancy suddenly got extended significantly, it would so completely and irrevocably change the way we think and act, that these parochial attitudes would be as obsolete as the dodo bird. They would be replaced by a whole new set of behavior. It is amazing to me how people extrapolate certain societal characteristics to new paradigms without understanding that the paradigm itself would alter things irrevocably. From: Blaze Spinnaker [mailto:blazespinna...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 9:40 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Geez, that's pretty grim! Are you a part of some death cult? There's a lot of great ways a law respecting society can ensure a fresh evolution of ideas. Death doesn't have to be one of them. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. Yeah? What makes you think the creative productive people would be preserved? No way! It would be the wealthy and brutal people. If we had this in the 20th century, Stalin would still be in charge of Russia. J. Gould and the other robber barons would still be running Wall Street. The Kim family would run North Korea forever. In cold fusion, opponents such as Huizenga would make policy for the next 500 years, and they would never allow research. Young people would never be able to contribute, or even grow up. Even James Watt became an impediment to progress at the end of his life. Death leads to turnover. It gives young people with fresh perspectives a chance. Most great science is done by young people. If the old scientists never get out the way, new ideas will never be published. I agree with Max Planck. Death is sad for the individual, but it is a blessing to society, and it is essential. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
Axil, one more jump and you will be out on the limb as far as me :_ you said [snip] In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures.[/snip].. I agree and even suggest that ALL catalytic action is based on geometry – not as powerful as a skeletal catalyst or nano powders [we don’t need relativistic levels of negative vacuum pressure to shake things up/catalyze], dynamic changes in geometry at even small Casimir levels will still oppose random motion , even looping forever in a closed irregular cavity should generate friction for trapped ambient gas [don’t ask about levitating pyramid calcium -lime blocks yet :_)]– forcing random motion [HUP] to accelerate chemical reactions thru changes in confinement. I think that simple catalytic action is actually a Heisenberg trap based on lesser geometry. It puts random motion of liquids and gas into opposition with smaller changes in negative vacuum pressure. [in supra catalysts we would call this dynamic Casimir effect and the confinement is sufficient that we hear of radioactive half lives being altered in both directions which IMHO is based on which type of partition [+ or -] the radioactive particle happens to favor based on it’s shape atomic or molecular]. In normal catalysts I don’t think the radioactive decay differential is significant – just like Lorentzian contraction and time dilation only occur near hi fractions of C, I think dilation of radioactive half lifes require a supra catalyst BUT catalytic action derives most of it’s power to drive reactions from sharp changes in the vacuum pressure packed closely together – since the geometry is stationary it requires a moving medium and sharp irregular shaped geometries pressed close together – the same as nano powders and skeletal cats but less critical and less powerful. Citations: a 2009 paper, “Pinpointing catalytic reactions on carbon nanotubeshttp://www.physorg.com/news159199255.html “, by Peng Chen et all from Cornell Univercity in which researchers discovered that catalytic action only occurs when this nanogeometry CHANGES at the openings and defects of a nanotube. Cavity QEDhttp://www.actaphys.uj.edu.pl/_old/vol27/pdf/v27p2409.pdf , And My blog http://froarty.scienceblog.com/32155/relativistic-interpertation-of-casimir-effect-expanded/ Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 12:08 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit From a previous post except in part as follows: have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons on the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can change the half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 microseconds. It also causes thorium to fission. See references: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjasqi=2ved=0CC4QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1112.6276ei=nI6UUeG1Fq-N0QGypIAgusg=AFQjCNFB59F1wkDv-NzeYg5TpnyZV1kpKQsig2=fhdWJ_enNKlLA4HboFBTUAbvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ Experiments showing the same mechanism as listed below: Laser-induced synthesis and decay of Tritium under exposure of solid targets in heavy water http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.0830 Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au nanoparticles in the presence of Thorium aqua ions http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4268.pdf === In these experiments, nano geometry converts light energy from the laser into vortex motion of electrons in a nanoplasmonic soliton produced on the surface of the gold nanoparticles. Without the gold nanoparticles, laser light alone is ineffectual in this type of experiment. The soliton produces the separation of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. It also forces the entanglement of the soliton with the U232 nucleus by pumping energy into the vacuum. This vacuum energy pumping using EMF energy from microwaves also happens in the EmDrive system. - In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures. Rossi has used a nickel based catalatic micro particle and amplified its effects by using nanoparticles of lithium to amplify the catalatic time acceleration effect to a huge amount. This amplification is done through SPP asymmetric coupling, where a large soliton feeds energy superconductively into a series of smaller solitons...like a transformer. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, You also mentioned [snip] In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most
[Vo]:trying to understand the role of randomness and chaos in LENR
Dear Friends, it is here: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/05/lenr-hot-dynamic-chaos-good-cold-static.html Waiting for FORM (see the Motto);it comes. slowly. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea
As long as it is the last thing on your bucket list it is still OK to visit... On Friday, May 15, 2015, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: More details supporting the story: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-15/execution-anti-aircraft-gun-photographic-evidence Visiting NKorea is definitely off my bucket list… ;-) -m *From:* Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eric.wal...@gmail.com');] *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:22 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com'); *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jedrothw...@gmail.com'); wrote: You do not see many innovative new ideas coming out of North Korea. But I must say, they do come up with unexpected ways to kill off top officials. Here is the latest headline from the New York Times: North Korea Said to Execute a Top Official, With an Antiaircraft Gun This tidbit of news was recently called into doubt: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/14/south-korea-rows-back-over-north-korea-anti-aircraft-gun-execution-claim Knowing what other kinds of purges have taken place, I suppose this is only a question about a point of fact, and not one of whether North Korea would resort to something like this. Eric
RE: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea
More details supporting the story: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-15/execution-anti-aircraft-gun-photographic-evidence Visiting NKorea is definitely off my bucket list… ;-) -m From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: You do not see many innovative new ideas coming out of North Korea. But I must say, they do come up with unexpected ways to kill off top officials. Here is the latest headline from the New York Times: North Korea Said to Execute a Top Official, With an Antiaircraft Gun This tidbit of news was recently called into doubt: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/14/south-korea-rows-back-over-north-korea-anti-aircraft-gun-execution-claim Knowing what other kinds of purges have taken place, I suppose this is only a question about a point of fact, and not one of whether North Korea would resort to something like this. Eric
