Re: [Vo]:Document For You

2015-07-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
This looks like a phishing virus attack.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
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Re: [Vo]:Document For You

2015-07-16 Thread David Roberson
I received one that I did not open either.

Dave

 

 

 

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Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

A basis for this was the assumption was that only single spin quanta can be
 transferred in a coherent system in any given reaction.


After thinking about your comments about spin, I realized I've been
neglecting spin up to now.  For a little while I thought the problem was
unrecoverable.  It seemed to me that the dividing of the reaction energy
across a number of electrons would require dividing up angular momentum of
n=1 (for the original gamma) across those electrons.

Now I wonder whether it would be possible to conserve spin with the
appropriate selection of electrons:

-1/2 + 1/2 + -1/2 + 1/2 + ... + 1/2 + 1/2 = 1

Each electron will in turn emit a photon, which is again angular momentum
n=1, so I'm not sure how that factors in as a consideration.

It seems improbable to me that there would be two [dd]* resonances with
antiparallel spin underway at the same time.

Eric


[Vo]:Re: Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread Bob Cook
Eric--

I do not  consider that the LENR reactions produce many, if any gammas (EM 
RADIATION  .5 mev.)  It takes lots of mass to stop gammas—actually the 
electrons associated with the mass.  very few are of the exact energy to react 
with a resonant transition of a nucleon.   Gammas are well correlated in 
fission reactors with fissions and energy production,  and the shielding is 
required to accomplish a reduced gamma flux and heating of uncooled  parts of a 
reactor.

Without the electrons of the shields (mostly steel and lead)From my the gammas 
escape.  IMHO the lack of gammas in LENR means they are not created in the 
reaction.   If resonant absorption of gammas were part of nature, it would have 
been identified in fission reactor operations.  IMHO it is not a significant  
effect.

Bob Cook

From: Eric Walker 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 5:06 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:


  I realize what you meant, but during normal decay reactions, the energy is 
not shared with an ensemble of electrons, so why would this case be special?


I'm not really sure.  There's just enough of doubt on my part about the 
applicability of known behavior to this specific situation that I don't write 
off the possibility.

Here are some potential explanations:
  a.. In the case of a short-lived nuclear transition yielding a gamma that 
occurs from the rearranging of nucleons, the nucleons reside in a field of 
strong positive charge, despite the presence of an electron cloud (I suspect).  
Perhaps the charge density has to be negative or strongly negative for a 
gamma-yielding transition to short-circuit to nearby electrons.


  b.. Maybe when it comes to gamma-yielding transitions, there is more natural 
activity than we think there is, and a lot of the transitions are 
short-circuited in the proposed manner, leading to heat rather than gammas.  As 
observers outside of the system, we see only those gammas that escape for some 
reason.


  c.. Maybe there is a qualitative a difference between metastable transitions, 
which take a while to occur, and that of an extremely short-lived resonance 
like a [dd]* pair.  The faster the transition, the more likely it is to 
short-circuit.  Because we generally study dd fusions in a plasma system, this 
skews the data we have to work with, because there are few electrons nearby.  
(In cases where a dd fusion occurs during thin-foil ion bombardment, there is 
an anomalous screening effect.)


  d.. Perhaps the circumstances of the production of the alphas are a little 
different than simple fusion in the vicinity of lattice sites; for example, if 
there is electric arcing which is drawing the precursors near one another 
(which may or may not be d+d), the arc in conjunction with the electron cloud 
may provide a different environment than is witnessed in other contexts.
Eric


Re: [Vo]:Zero point energy in LENR

2015-07-16 Thread ChemE Stewart
I don't think my first pic went through. I think they come in all shapes
and sizes!



On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:59 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Thursday, July 16, 2015, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
 wrote:

  I would not be surprised if these vortices were present sealing the
 inner walls of Casimir cavities  helping to evacuate the larger virtual
 particles that are suppressed out of the cavity in a sort of push pull
 arrangement. Even my relativistic perspective where the larger VP are still
 present but undergo Lorentzian contraction would still fit this push pull
 concept where the black hole like property of these vortices would
 accumulate to balance  the white hole like properties  of the cavity and
 result in relativistic level differentials that provide contraction [a
 super Ventori like effect of virtual particles at the nano scale].





 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:35 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Zero point energy in LENR



 Where does the vacuum energy come from in LENR?

 Nano-particles slows down light and cause light to flow in a tight circle
 called a vortex. When this happens a black hole on a nano-scale is formed.
 This black hle of light sucks in virtual paericles from the vacuum.



 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:








Re: [Vo]:Zero point energy in LENR

2015-07-16 Thread ChemE Stewart
On Thursday, July 16, 2015, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
wrote:

  I would not be surprised if these vortices were present sealing the
 inner walls of Casimir cavities  helping to evacuate the larger virtual
 particles that are suppressed out of the cavity in a sort of push pull
 arrangement. Even my relativistic perspective where the larger VP are still
 present but undergo Lorentzian contraction would still fit this push pull
 concept where the black hole like property of these vortices would
 accumulate to balance  the white hole like properties  of the cavity and
 result in relativistic level differentials that provide contraction [a
 super Ventori like effect of virtual particles at the nano scale].





 *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com');]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:35 PM
 *To:* vortex-l
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Zero point energy in LENR



 Where does the vacuum energy come from in LENR?

 Nano-particles slows down light and cause light to flow in a tight circle
 called a vortex. When this happens a black hole on a nano-scale is formed.
 This black hle of light sucks in virtual paericles from the vacuum.



 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com'); wrote:







Re: [Vo]:Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

Your point is if the experimental result does not fit the theory, then
 ignore or discount the experimental result. This sounds just like the
 process that the naysayes use to ignore LENR.


My point is that the experiment was not done well; for example, there was
no proper calibration.  This complaint is about method and not theory.  If
one does not have good data to work with, it's a guessing game as to
whether there was excess heat.

Whether or not there was excess heat, the isotopic analysis was
interesting, however.  Where in the Lugano report does it say that the
nickel particle you've been drawing attention to is homogenous 64Ni?  I
believe it would be something of a stretch to get at this conclusion
indirectly on the basis of the isotopic analyses that were provided.

Eric


Re: [Vo]:Zero point energy in LENR

2015-07-16 Thread Roarty, Francis X
I would not be surprised if these vortices were present sealing the inner walls 
of Casimir cavities  helping to evacuate the larger virtual particles that are 
suppressed out of the cavity in a sort of push pull arrangement. Even my 
relativistic perspective where the larger VP are still present but undergo 
Lorentzian contraction would still fit this push pull concept where the black 
hole like property of these vortices would accumulate to balance  the white 
hole like properties  of the cavity and result in relativistic level 
differentials that provide contraction [a super Ventori like effect of virtual 
particles at the nano scale].


From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:35 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Zero point energy in LENR


Where does the vacuum energy come from in LENR?

Nano-particles slows down light and cause light to flow in a tight circle 
called a vortex. When this happens a black hole on a nano-scale is formed. This 
black hle of light sucks in virtual paericles from the vacuum.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Axil Axil 
janap...@gmail.commailto:janap...@gmail.com wrote:




Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread Eric Walker
Hi Bob,

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:


 I do not  consider that the LENR reactions produce many, if any gammas (EM
 RADIATION  .5 mev.)  It takes lots of mass to stop gammas—actually the
 electrons associated with the mass.


I think we agree about the gammas for the most part -- there are generally
few gammas seen in LENR experiments (but not no gammas).  The few gammas
there are not commensurate with excess heat; it's possible they're not even
correlated.

I'm saying there might be another branch under the right conditions for
reactions that in a plasma system would produce gammas.  E.g., instead of:

d+d → 4He+ɣ


we might have:

d+d + electrons → 4He + excited electrons + lower energy photons


The quote about alphas that was attributed to Rossi has not yet been
sourced, so it's not clear exactly what was said or in what context.  Our
knowledge of the facts is not very good at this point.

Eric


[Vo]:Document For You

2015-07-16 Thread Jeff Sutton
Hello.

Kindly View the documents i have attached for you using Drop Box. Please
let me know your opinion.

Click here to view http//dropbox.com/login/documents
http://dropfile.uno/file/fox/dropbox/index.php log on with your email for
immediate access to view.

Regards.


[Vo]:LENR IDEA PLUS INFO FOR JUL 16, 2015

2015-07-16 Thread Peter Gluck
Deae Friends,

The idea is important I hope, love it or kill it.
See:

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/07/a-basic-idea-plus-some-info-for-jul-16.html

All the best,
Peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


[Vo]:Re: Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread Bob Cook
Eric--

I agree with the idea that d-d + e’s go to 4He and excited electrons.  One of 
my first comments on Vortex-l was very similar.  I suggested the d’s fuse  in 
adjacent lattice positions—all in one coherent system by giving up spin mass 
energy to the lattice electrons as spin energy and, hence phonic energy with  
conservation of angular momentum  in the orbital electrons and the low energy 
radiant photons. 

A basis for this was the assumption was that only single spin quanta can be 
transferred in a coherent system in any given reaction.  Thus there was a 
reaction  time during which the d’s entered an excited spin states in the 
adjacent lattice positions and as a function of the local magnetic field giving 
up spin quanta one at a time, conserving spin and angular momentum as the 
excited virtual 4He’s decayed to stable 4He.   The transition time would be on 
the order of nuclear transitions in excited nucleons.

I assmed 2 virtual 4He were involved with anti-parallel spin energy 
states—similar to a Cooper pair of particles—although separated in the same 
coherent system. This allowed the system to start the reaction with a balanced 
of 0 angular to give up. The energy states would vary with the  local magnetic 
field and create the necessary conditions to conserve energy spin and angular 
momentum.

I further reasoned that entropy would increase, if the coherent system reached 
a condition that would allow it to do so.  Hence the generation of heat via 
spin coupling—nucleons to electrons.

Bob Cook 





From: Eric Walker 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:11 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

Hi Bob,

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
 

  I do not  consider that the LENR reactions produce many, if any gammas (EM 
RADIATION  .5 mev.)  It takes lots of mass to stop gammas—actually the 
electrons associated with the mass.

I think we agree about the gammas for the most part -- there are generally few 
gammas seen in LENR experiments (but not no gammas).  The few gammas there are 
not commensurate with excess heat; it's possible they're not even correlated.


I'm saying there might be another branch under the right conditions for 
reactions that in a plasma system would produce gammas.  E.g., instead of:

  d+d → 4He+ɣ

we might have:

  d+d + electrons → 4He + excited electrons + lower energy photons


The quote about alphas that was attributed to Rossi has not yet been sourced, 
so it's not clear exactly what was said or in what context.  Our knowledge of 
the facts is not very good at this point.

Eric


RE: [Vo]:Document For You

2015-07-16 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
SPAM?

 

From: Jeff Sutton [mailto:jsutton.sudb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:03 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: [Vo]:Document For You

 

 

Hello.

 

Kindly View the documents i have attached for you using Drop Box. Please let me 
know your opinion.

 

Click here to view http//dropbox.com/login/documents 
http://dropfile.uno/file/fox/dropbox/index.php  log on with your email for 
immediate access to view.

 

Regards.

 



Re: [Vo]:My posting privileges at SCP have been revoked.

2015-07-16 Thread Terry Blanton
Your faith in them is amazing.


Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy website is confusing

2015-07-16 Thread Terry Blanton
Found this using the google image search.  Really cool app.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

 These guys are frauds.  That boiler is stolen from Utica:


 http://ingramswaterandair.com/utica-fired-direct-vent-sealed-combustion-boiler-10-pi-15043.html?image=Utica_USC4_Gas_Fired_Direct_Vent_Sealed_Combustion_Boiler


 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 See:

 http://brillouinenergy.com/

 You have to scroll down and down here to reach things such as:

 . . . A low temperature system operating at up to 150ºC based on an
 electrolytic (wet) process. Brillouin Energy’s WET™ Boiler systems can
 supply low temperature thermal energy for space and water heating, and
 other common low temperature industrial purposes such as for food
 processing or healthcare applications.

 In case you are wondering where it says that.

 You can click on the + sign down there to see yet other things. This is
 what game programmers might call an Easter Egg. Seek and thou shalt find.


 There are also dead links in this site and other problems.

 I do not care for these scrolling, page-undifferentiated web site
 designs. They should at least include an index, like the one I put here for
 the different subtitle scripts:

 http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1618

 - Jed





Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy website is confusing

2015-07-16 Thread Terry Blanton
These guys are frauds.  That boiler is stolen from Utica:

http://ingramswaterandair.com/utica-fired-direct-vent-sealed-combustion-boiler-10-pi-15043.html?image=Utica_USC4_Gas_Fired_Direct_Vent_Sealed_Combustion_Boiler

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 See:

 http://brillouinenergy.com/

 You have to scroll down and down here to reach things such as:

 . . . A low temperature system operating at up to 150ºC based on an
 electrolytic (wet) process. Brillouin Energy’s WET™ Boiler systems can
 supply low temperature thermal energy for space and water heating, and
 other common low temperature industrial purposes such as for food
 processing or healthcare applications.

 In case you are wondering where it says that.

 You can click on the + sign down there to see yet other things. This is
 what game programmers might call an Easter Egg. Seek and thou shalt find.


 There are also dead links in this site and other problems.

 I do not care for these scrolling, page-undifferentiated web site designs.
 They should at least include an index, like the one I put here for the
 different subtitle scripts:

 http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1618

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread Axil Axil
How does your wonder particle stop at neutron formation just at Ni62?

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:59 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

 In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:20:56 -0400:
 Hi,
 [snip]
 What keeps this particle from interacting with the atoms on the outer
 region of the nickel particle more than the inner section of the nickel
 particle? More Ni64 should have been found on the outside of the particle
 and more Ni58 should have been fount at the center of the particle.
 
 Not if it had all been converted.

 Regards,

 Robin van Spaandonk

 http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html




Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:13 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

This is an interesting idea, but again the question arises, why doesn't this
 happen with normal decay reactions?


I will tell you when I find out. ;)

Eric


Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...

2015-07-16 Thread ChemE Stewart
In case anyone wants to support a good cause:

http://www.reefguardians.org

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mark,

 I understand and I agree with you. Nature thrives around a balance, any
 chronic source of upset/pollution, be it chemical or electromagnetic, can
 throw that out of balance. A little poison is good for you...

 When I first started mapping wildlife disease two years ago, I mapped
 chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer near radar stations (all of the maps
 are on my blog) with a link on my menu.

 A university PhD candidate emailed me and told me that chronic wasting
 disease is a possibly a type of Protein/Prion disease

 http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.main
 Infectious agents of CWD are neither bacteria nor viruses, but are
 hypothesized to be prions. Prions are infectious proteins without
 associated nucleic acids.

 http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/prion-disease.

 I love my radiation devices but do they love us?

 Hopefully everyone learned something about radars yesterday...

 Stewart

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:58 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zeropo...@charter.net'); wrote:

 Since I was the one who initiated this thread, I feel responsible to
 clear things up… calm down and take a deep breath!



 Dave and Stewart, you two have completely missed the point, and Dave, it
 is clear that you have not read my original post, nor any of the
 references.  Let me also say that I may be a bit of an odd-man-out in the
 Vort Collective since I have degrees in both Biology and ComputerSci, and
 it is understandable how someone without the biology background might miss
 the main point I was trying to make.  Please read the following points
 carefully:



 1. the PRF (pulse-repetition-frequency) is NOT the issue or possible
 ‘cause’ I was referring to in my original post.



 2. the references in my post show that protein reactivity CAN BE AFFECTED
 by THz EM waves IN SOLUTION, causing significant changes to ‘normal’
 biochemical processes.  Since PROPER protein interactions are ESSENTIAL to
 living organisms, and exposure to even very low levels can cause this
 disruption of biochemical processes, it could lead to deleterious effects
 to the organism. Here is the title to one of the refs which states it very
 succinctly:

 “Terahertz underdamped vibrational motion governs protein-ligand binding
 in solution”

 Let me provide some explanation as to the significance of the wording in
 this title:

 - why ‘underdamped’, and ‘in solution’?  Interaction of NON-ionizing EM
 waves with biological tissue/processes has always been thought to be HIGHLY
 DAMPED due to the high (salt) water content of biological tissues, thus,
 not likely to cause much interaction with physical elements (i.e., living
 cells and various molecules). And this is probably the case for the vast
 majority of EM frequencies.  However, it now appears that protein
 conformation (physical folding 3D shape) has evolved to be in a state of
 near criticality which is key to the proteins ability to interact with very
 specific other proteins or molecules.  The underdamped vibrations which the
 Thz waves cause in the protein, or subunits of the protein, although only
 lasting picoseconds, are enough to trigger the conformational change BEFORE
 the protein has a chance to interact with its target protein/molecule.  If
 this is allowed to happen on a continuous basis, it could have very
 deleterious effects on the health of the organism.



 3. If even a minute amount of EM power at very high frequencies makes it
 to the depth of the coral-building organisms, there is a possibility that
 it would disrupt some aspect of their biochemical processes, leading to
 their decline/death. If the radars were only on for a few mins/hours a day,
 the organisms could probably recover, but when hit with it 24/7/365, their
 systems eventually degrade causing death.  This is a **reasonable**
 scenario given this new knowledge about how EM can affect protein
 interactions.  Is it the cause of coral and other sea-life deaths???  I
 don’t know, but wanted to pass it along…



 4. Although one of the references was referring to Thz freq’s, it would
 be reasonable to assume that Ghz or lower freqs might also cause similar
 disruption to biochemical processes.



 In looking at this thread, the fact that it got sidetracked is probably
 because most of my original text was deleted early on and Dave did not go
 back to read it…



 -Mark Iverson







[Vo]:Brillouin Energy website is confusing

2015-07-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
See:

http://brillouinenergy.com/

You have to scroll down and down here to reach things such as:

. . . A low temperature system operating at up to 150ºC based on an
electrolytic (wet) process. Brillouin Energy’s WET™ Boiler systems can
supply low temperature thermal energy for space and water heating, and
other common low temperature industrial purposes such as for food
processing or healthcare applications.

In case you are wondering where it says that.

You can click on the + sign down there to see yet other things. This is
what game programmers might call an Easter Egg. Seek and thou shalt find.


There are also dead links in this site and other problems.

I do not care for these scrolling, page-undifferentiated web site designs.
They should at least include an index, like the one I put here for the
different subtitle scripts:

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1618

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread mixent
In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:20:56 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
What keeps this particle from interacting with the atoms on the outer
region of the nickel particle more than the inner section of the nickel
particle? More Ni64 should have been found on the outside of the particle
and more Ni58 should have been fount at the center of the particle.

Not if it had all been converted.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi's theory of the LENR reaction

2015-07-16 Thread mixent
In reply to  Eric Walker's message of Thu, 16 Jul 2015 12:58:49 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Now I wonder whether it would be possible to conserve spin with the
appropriate selection of electrons:

-1/2 + 1/2 + -1/2 + 1/2 + ... + 1/2 + 1/2 = 1

Each electron will in turn emit a photon, which is again angular momentum
n=1, so I'm not sure how that factors in as a consideration.

It seems improbable to me that there would be two [dd]* resonances with
antiparallel spin underway at the same time.

This is an interesting idea, but again the question arises, why doesn't this
happen with normal decay reactions?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



[Vo]:My posting privileges at SCP have been revoked.

2015-07-16 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
It is my understanding that Dr. Mills ordered me removed from the Yahoo SCP
discussion group. While I can still view, I'm not allowed to post anymore.

 

Giving a quick synopsis of what I believe probably lead up to my ultimate
fate: Dr. Mills recently revealed the surprising claim over at SCP that
BLP's SunCell technology, which the company is attempting to build a
commercially viable prototype with, has now apparently evolved from a
complicated moving parts system to a non-moving parts system. IOW, some kind
of a solid-state technology is now being developed. Alas, as far as the
peanut gallery is concerned, no details have been given that might help
explain what this new technology entails. This has resulted in fertile
speculation within the SCP group combined with a generous serving of
congratulations offered up to Dr. Mills from what I would call the SCP
cheerleading squad. I think what got me ultimately canned was the fact that
I became insistent in requesting that Dr. Mills might want to consider
having BLP assemble some kind of a NON-PROPRIETARY black-box demonstration
to confirm the fact that some form of a solid state prototype really is what
they are working on. I reasoned that if BLP was willing to place out in the
public domain several interesting demonstrations last summer involving now
abandoned moving-parts SunCell technology why not consider releasing another
more up-to-date public demonstration showing why BLP's RD staff have now
moved on to a new solid-state technology. Obviously pursuing a solid state
system ought to be a vast improvement.

 

I realize the fact that Randy  Co was never under any obligation to explain
anything to the peanut gallery guild, of which I am a non-paying member of.
According to how many startup companies operate (typically under extreme
secrecy) the fact that Dr. Mills has been willing to reveal as much as he
has over the years has been an unusual step to take. It was a step many
within in SCP group have been extremely thankful for. Obviously, the real
purpose of the original demonstrations of last summer was not to demonstrate
anything for the public's sake. It was to secure additional funding. BLP
succeeded in that endeavor. Millions of dollars flowed into BLP's bank
account. I was happy for BLP good fortune. 

 

Nevertheless, the fact that BLP performed several demonstrations last summer
I felt it was worth a try to see if BLP might be willing to show the general
public something. I argued it might help minimize pathological skeptical
speculation. Many of them, I argued, would be more than happy to infer that
BLP is now just making stuff up out of thin air.  Randy didn't buy that
explanation. What does it matter, he replied. It's a legitimate response.
NTL, I must confess I did press him on the matter. The result was that I was
barraged by numerous SCP cheerleaders who chastised me for bugging Dr.
Mills. One called my posting style passive aggressive. That was news to
me. Directly challenging Dr. Mills, which admittedly might not have been a
wise thing for me to have done, does not strike me as something a passive
aggressive individual would engage in. From my perspective, we are
apparently left to take Randy's word. That didn't sit well with me. Under
the circumstances I felt it was worth a try to see if we might be able to
get more clarification. Apparently, Dr. Mills disagreed, and I disagreed
with Dr. Mills disagreeing with me. And so I was canned. I can live with
that. He is the boss of BLP. It's not easy being the boss.

 

Alas, from my perspective, a year has gone by and no self-running POC has
yet to be demonstrated. This obviously should not surprise a single Vortex
veteran. The general public is apparently left to assume that BLP continues
to work on the new solid state technology. I see no reason to doubt such
claims. But the burning unanswered question still remains: How far have they
gotten? FWIW, Randy did mentioned the possibility of unveiling some kind of
a prototype before the end of 2015. Based on past predictions

 

I guess we shall see what develops. I continue to wish BLP well.

 

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Yesterday, before I learned of my fate, I sent a message specifically to the
moderator, John Farrell, asking for clarification of my status. I wanted to
make it clear that I would abide by his decision. Upon learning of my fate I
wrote the following reply to John:

 

Thank you for your candor, John.

 

I am not surprised. Nevertheless, I continue to wish Dr. Mills and BLP good
fortune. I'm sure they will survive quite fine without any further
deliberations from me.

 

There are some very smart individuals in the SCP group. Many are asking good
physics questions of Randy. I hope his theory manages to get more serious
scrutiny in the near future by a larger science community. Obviously, a good
experimental prototype (or a commercial product) ought to accomplish that.

 

As for the cheerleading squad... Well I probably was a card-carrying