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On Wednesday, July 8, 2015, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> I understand and I agree with you. Nature thrives around a balance, any
> chronic source of upset/pollution, be it chemical or electromagnetic, can
> throw that out of balance. A little poison is good for you...
>
> When I first started mapping wildlife disease two years ago, I mapped
> chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer near radar stations (all of the maps
> are on my blog) with a link on my menu.
>
> A university PhD candidate emailed me and told me that chronic wasting
> disease is a possibly a type of Protein/Prion disease
>
> http://www.cwd-info.org/index.php/fuseaction/about.main
> Infectious agents of CWD are neither bacteria nor viruses, but are
> hypothesized to be prions. Prions are infectious proteins without
> associated nucleic acids.
>
> http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/prion-disease.
>
> I love my radiation devices but do they love us?
>
> Hopefully everyone learned something about radars yesterday...
>
> Stewart
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:58 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zeropo...@charter.net');>> wrote:
>
>> Since I was the one who initiated this thread, I feel responsible to
>> clear things up… calm down and take a deep breath!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave and Stewart, you two have completely missed the point, and Dave, it
>> is clear that you have not read my original post, nor any of the
>> references.  Let me also say that I may be a bit of an odd-man-out in the
>> Vort Collective since I have degrees in both Biology and ComputerSci, and
>> it is understandable how someone without the biology background might miss
>> the main point I was trying to make.  Please read the following points
>> carefully:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. the PRF (pulse-repetition-frequency) is NOT the issue or possible
>> ‘cause’ I was referring to in my original post.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. the references in my post show that protein reactivity CAN BE AFFECTED
>> by THz EM waves IN SOLUTION, causing significant changes to ‘normal’
>> biochemical processes.  Since PROPER protein interactions are ESSENTIAL to
>> living organisms, and exposure to even very low levels can cause this
>> disruption of biochemical processes, it could lead to deleterious effects
>> to the organism. Here is the title to one of the refs which states it very
>> succinctly:
>>
>> “Terahertz underdamped vibrational motion governs protein-ligand binding
>> in solution”
>>
>> Let me provide some explanation as to the significance of the wording in
>> this title:
>>
>> - why ‘underdamped’, and ‘in solution’?  Interaction of NON-ionizing EM
>> waves with biological tissue/processes has always been thought to be HIGHLY
>> DAMPED due to the high (salt) water content of biological tissues, thus,
>> not likely to cause much interaction with physical elements (i.e., living
>> cells and various molecules). And this is probably the case for the vast
>> majority of EM frequencies.  However, it now appears that protein
>> conformation (physical folding 3D shape) has evolved to be in a state of
>> near criticality which is key to the proteins ability to interact with very
>> specific other proteins or molecules.  The underdamped vibrations which the
>> Thz waves cause in the protein, or subunits of the protein, although only
>> lasting picoseconds, are enough to trigger the conformational change BEFORE
>> the protein has a chance to interact with its target protein/molecule.  If
>> this is allowed to happen on a continuous basis, it could have very
>> deleterious effects on the health of the organism.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. If even a minute amount of EM power at very high frequencies makes it
>> to the depth of the coral-building organisms, there is a possibility that
>> it would disrupt some aspect of their biochemical processes, leading to
>> their decline/death. If the radars were only on for a few mins/hours a day,
>> the organisms could probably recover, but when hit with it 24/7/365, their
>> systems eventually degrade causing death.  This is a **reasonable**
>> scenario given this new knowledge about how EM can affect protein
>> interactions.  Is it the cause of coral and other sea-life deaths???  I
>> don’t know, but wanted to pass it along…
>>
>>
>>
>> 4. Although one of the references was referring to Thz freq’s, it would
>> be reasonable to assume that Ghz or lower freqs might also cause similar
>> disruption to biochemical processes.
>>
>>
>>
>> In looking at this thread, the fact that it got sidetracked is probably
>> because most of my original text was deleted early on and Dave did not go
>> back to read it…
>>
>>
>>
>> -Mark Iverson
>>
>>
>>
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