[Vo]:at your mercy: please explain what BackEMF/Lenz Law is - and what would happen if a motor/generator could be built that is not subject to them?

[Vibrator !]

Lenz's law is the EM manifestation of Newton's 3rd law, conserving
momentum, and is simply the reciprocal / mutual self-induction of Faraday's
law - currents generate magnetic fields, and vice versa; an induced current
has its own magnetic field which reacts back with the applied field.  It's
an EMF - the same force as voltage and the force between two magnets - and
its sign is always opposite to that of the applied motion or voltage.

As with Newton's 3rd law, many people miss why conservation of energy
should be dependent upon equal and opposite reactions.  The reason is that
while momentum scales linearly (P=MV), KE scales as half the square of
velocity (KE=1/2MV^2) - IOW compound interest on rising speed.  From a
standing start, we can accelerate 1 kg by 1 m/s using just 1/2 a Joule of
energy.  But to then increase its speed by another 1 m/s will cost four
times the initial price - 2 J.  To bump it up again by a third meter per
second will cost 4.5 J, and so on.  To get it from 9 m/s up to 10 m/s, that
same 1 m/s increment of acceleration is gonna cost 9.5 Joules.

So why does the cost of KE square up like this?  It's because we have to
apply the same given force over an ever-increasing displacement, in order
to achieve the same consistent acceleration.  Alternatively, we could
progressively raise the applied force over a constant displacement
increment, but either way, the whole joules per meter/sec/kg game is one of
massively diminishing returns.

The reason is that the force is normally considered as applied from a
second, usually non-inertial (non-accelerating) frame - hence there's an
ever rising displacement between the thing you're accelerating and the
thing it's pushing against.  Hence KE rises as half the square of
displacement / time.

But not so for momentum - since its very units and dimensions are mass
times velocity, it scales linearly.  Inertia is velocity-independent.

So an effective N3 violation would allow you to create energy by
effectively towing your reaction mass along for free.  Consider two
adjacent 1kg masses in free space connected via a perfectly elastic slack
tether: an impulse is applied between them, but because abracadabra, only
one moves, until they collide again; from either mass's frame of reference,
that detail is irrelevant - if we input 1 J of energy then that's all the
system has, and whether 1/2 a J resides in each mass or one has more than
the other may seem academic...

Until we repeat that input condition.  A second input Joule will raise the
net system energy to just 2J, no OU yet, but from an external FoR the net
system momentum has risen by a Joule or so... and as we repeat that input
condition, the net system momentum begins to square up, as KE is, by
definition, wont to do...  while internally, the relative velocity between
the oscillating masses never exceeds the linear sum of 1 J/kg/m/s inputs.
So when the net system momentum reaches 10 m/s, we'll only have input 20 J
of work, but for a 100 J net system energy... IOW we've created 80 J from
dodging the usual 1/2V^2 premium.

So an N3 violation basically converts the dimensions of our input energy
into those of momentum - obviating the 1/2^2 accumulator.  We could
accelerate a 1 kg mass to 10 m/s using just 5 J (1/2 J per m/s) - a speed
at which it'll have 50 J of KE from the stationary reference frame.

And exactly this same dynamic applies to EM systems - it's the same
fundamental symmetry; a Lenzless motor has a linear input energy for an
exponential output KE (RKE = 1/2 angular inertia times angular velocity
squared)... therefore beyond some (low) threshold of performance the output
energy integral punches diagonally straight through the flat-line input
integral, and keeps rising..

Essentially, accelerating a mass Lenzlessly would present no load upon the
power supply - only usual resistance losses remain, following Joule's 2nd
law for heat (Q=I^2RT where Q = J and I^2RT is current squared times
resistance times time)... calorimetry would thus show gains, while a
passively superconducting Lenzless reaction could summon infinite free
momentum from the vacuum without any incidental heating

EM or mechanical, the peak efficiency of an N3 break is a power of ten of
whatever's input.  In the admittedly spartan world of classical symmetry
breaks, an N3 exception would be the motherload.  Reactionless propulsion
AND free energy.

The source or sink is whatever manifests the fields in question (Higgs /
virtual photons or whatever vacuum activity they represent)..  but either
way, an effective N3 violation means a system is thermodynamically open.

Re: [Vo]:at your mercy: please explain what BackEMF/Lenz Law is - and what would happen if a motor/generator could be built that is not subject to them?

[Eric Walker]

I wrote:

I followed your presentation, ...
>

The presentation was a little more opaque than I at first appreciated.

"As with Newton's 3rd law, many people miss why conservation of energy
should be dependent upon equal and opposite reactions."

"Inertia is velocity-independent."

"Essentially, accelerating a mass Lenzlessly would present no load upon the
power supply - only usual resistance losses remain, following Joule's 2nd
law for heat (Q=I^2RT where Q = J and I^2RT is current squared times
resistance times time)... calorimetry would thus show gains"

"EM or mechanical, the peak efficiency of an N3 break is a power of ten of
whatever's input."

I take it back.  I didn't really understand it.

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Article: Chiral magnetic effect generates quantum current

[John Berry]

Ok, wow!

So I have for about 20 years been collecting evidence of parallel electric
and magnetic fields creating an anomalous voltage (they don't say voltage,
but mention extracting energy from Dirac sea and a powerful increase in
conductivity).
I have been working with chiral effects for about 5 years, this paper is
perfectly echoing my work.

I can give you a decent size list of experiments with electric current
generating an anomalous preferred direction when current flows along a
magnetic field like this.

Also the equal left and right handed Charity!  Yes I have found that too.
And then it goes on to talk about massless particles that are like
electrons!

This just sounds like an echo chamber of my own work.

John (call me paranoid, but article below in case it disappears or gets
modified)


Scientists at the U.S Department of Energy's (DOE) Brookhaven National
Laboratory and Stony Brook University have discovered a new way to generate
very low-resistance electric current in a new class of materials. The
discovery, which relies on the separation of right- and left-"handed"
particles, points to a range of potential applications in energy, quantum
computing, and medical imaging, and possibly even a new mechanism for
inducing superconductivity—the ability of some materials to carry current
with no energy loss.

The material the scientists worked with, zirconium pentatelluride, has a
surprising trait: When placed in parallel electric and magnetic fields, it
responds with an imbalance in the number of right- and left-handed
particles—a chiral imbalance. That imbalance pushes oppositely charged
particles in opposite directions to create a powerful electric current.

This "chiral magnetic effect" had long been predicted theoretically, but
never observed definitively in a materials science laboratory at the time
this work was done.

In fact, when physicists in Brookhaven's Condensed Matter Physics &
Materials Science Department (CMP) first measured the significant drop
in electrical resistance, and the accompanying dramatic increase in
conductivity, they were quite surprised. "We didn't know this large
magnitude of 'negative magnetoresistance' was possible," said Qiang Li, a
physicist and head of the advanced energy materials group in the department
and a co-author on a paper describing these results just published in the
journal *Nature Physics*. But after teaming up with Dmitri Kharzeev, the
head of the RIKEN-BNL theory group at Brookhaven and a professor at Stony
Brook, the scientists had an explanation.

Kharzeev had explored similar behavior of subatomic particles in the
magnetic fields created in collisions at the Lab's Relativistic Heavy Ion
Collider (RHIC), a DOE Office of Science User Facility where nuclear
physicists explore the fundamental building blocks of matter. He suggested
that in both the RHIC collisions and zirconium pentatelluride, the
separation of charges could be triggered by a chiral imbalance.

To test the idea, they compared their measurements with the mathematical
predictions of how powerful the increase in conductivity should be with
increasing magnetic field  strength.

"We looked at the data and we said, 'Gee, that's it!' We tested six
different samples and confirmed that no matter how you do it, it's there as
long as the magnetic field is parallel to the electrical current. That's
the smoking gun," Li said.

*Going Chiral*

Right- or left-handed chirality is determined by whether a particle's spin
is aligned with or against its direction of motion. In order for chirality
to be definitively established, particles have to behave as if they are
nearly massless and able to move as such in all three spatial directions.

While free-flowing nearly massless particles are commonly found in the
quark-gluon plasma created at RHIC, this was not expected to occur in
condensed matter. However, in some recently discovered materials, including
"Dirac semimetals"—named for the physicist who wrote the equations to
describe fast-moving electrons—nearly massless "quasiparticle" versions of
electrons (and positively charged "holes") propagate through the crystal in
this free manner.

Some aspects of this phenomenon, namely the linear dependence of the
particles' energy on their momentum, can be directly measured and
visualized using angle-resolved photoemission spectroscopy (ARPES).

"On first sight, zirconium pentatelluride did not even look like a 3D
material," said Brookhaven physicist Tonica Valla, who performed the
measurements with collaborators at the Advanced Light Source (ALS) at
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and at Brookhaven's National
Synchrotron Light Source (NSLS, https://www.bnl.gov/ps/nsls/about-NSLS.asp)—two
additional DOE Office of Science User Facilities. "It is layered, similar
to graphite, so a quasi-2D electronic structure would be more expected.
However, as soon as we did the first ARPES measurements, it was clear that
the 

RE: [Vo]:Article: Chiral magnetic effect generates quantum current

[MarkI-ZeroPoint]

One cannot understand (super)conductivity unless physical orientation is also 
included.  I.e., I would be willing to bet that superconductivity occurs when 
the current ‘flow’ is EXACTLY perpendicular to the magnetic axes.  This is EASY 
to accomplish in graphene (or other single-layer materials), but once you get a 
few layers the interactions between atoms result in non-alignment of magnetic 
dipoles, it becomes nearly impossible to achieve the kind of alignments 
necessary for superconductivity unless one removes most of the heat quanta from 
the material; is it any wonder that quantum mechanics can ONLY achieve results 
based on probabilities?

-mark

 

From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 5:51 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: Chiral magnetic effect generates quantum current

 

Ok, wow!

 

So I have for about 20 years been collecting evidence of parallel electric and 
magnetic fields creating an anomalous voltage (they don't say voltage, but 
mention extracting energy from Dirac sea and a powerful increase in 
conductivity).

I have been working with chiral effects for about 5 years, this paper is 
perfectly echoing my work.

 

I can give you a decent size list of experiments with electric current 
generating an anomalous preferred direction when current flows along a magnetic 
field like this.

 

Also the equal left and right handed Charity!  Yes I have found that too.

And then it goes on to talk about massless particles that are like electrons!

 

This just sounds like an echo chamber of my own work.

 

John (call me paranoid, but article below in case it disappears or gets 
modified)



 

Scientists at the U.S Department of Energy's (DOE) Brookhaven National 
Laboratory and Stony Brook University have discovered a new way to generate 
very low-resistance electric current in a new class of materials. The 
discovery, which relies on the separation of right- and left-"handed" 
particles, points to a range of potential applications in energy, quantum 
computing, and medical imaging, and possibly even a new mechanism for inducing 
superconductivity—the ability of some materials to carry current with no energy 
loss.

The material the scientists worked with, zirconium pentatelluride, has a 
surprising trait: When placed in parallel electric and magnetic fields, it 
responds with an imbalance in the number of right- and left-handed particles—a 
chiral imbalance. That imbalance pushes oppositely charged particles in 
opposite directions to create a powerful electric current.

This "chiral magnetic effect" had long been predicted theoretically, but never 
observed definitively in a materials science laboratory at the time this work 
was done.

In fact, when physicists in Brookhaven's Condensed Matter Physics & Materials 
Science Department (CMP) first measured the significant drop in electrical 
resistance, and the accompanying dramatic increase in conductivity, they were 
quite surprised. "We didn't know this large magnitude of 'negative 
magnetoresistance' was possible," said Qiang Li, a physicist and head of the 
advanced energy materials group in the department and a co-author on a paper 
describing these results just published in the journal Nature Physics. But 
after teaming up with Dmitri Kharzeev, the head of the RIKEN-BNL theory group 
at Brookhaven and a professor at Stony Brook, the scientists had an explanation.

Kharzeev had explored similar behavior of subatomic particles in the magnetic 
fields created in collisions at the Lab's Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider 
(RHIC), a DOE Office of Science User Facility where nuclear physicists explore 
the fundamental building blocks of matter. He suggested that in both the RHIC 
collisions and zirconium pentatelluride, the separation of charges could be 
triggered by a chiral imbalance.

To test the idea, they compared their measurements with the mathematical 
predictions of how powerful the increase in conductivity should be with 
increasing   magnetic field strength.

"We looked at the data and we said, 'Gee, that's it!' We tested six different 
samples and confirmed that no matter how you do it, it's there as long as the 
magnetic field is parallel to the electrical current. That's the smoking gun," 
Li said.

Going Chiral

Right- or left-handed chirality is determined by whether a particle's spin is 
aligned with or against its direction of motion. In order for chirality to be 
definitively established, particles have to behave as if they are nearly 
massless and able to move as such in all three spatial directions.

While free-flowing nearly massless particles are commonly found in the 
quark-gluon plasma created at RHIC, this was not expected to occur in condensed 
matter. However, in some recently discovered materials, including "Dirac 
semimetals"—named for the physicist who wrote the equations to describe 
fast-moving 

Re: [Vo]:at your mercy: please explain what BackEMF/Lenz Law is - and what would happen if a motor/generator could be built that is not subject to them?

[Ludwik Kowalski]

Yes the analogy with the N3 law is worth emphasizing. A changing magnetic 
field, intercepted by a solenoid, creates an induced current, and vice versa--a 
changing electric current induces a magnetic field, through the solenoid.

 Ludwik 

===
On Feb 8, 2016, at 7:05 AM, Vibrator ! wrote:

> Lenz's law is the EM manifestation of Newton's 3rd law, conserving momentum, 
> and is simply the reciprocal / mutual self-induction of Faraday's law - 
> currents  generate magnetic fields, and vice versa; an induced current has 
> its own magnetic field which reacts back with the applied field.  It's an EMF 
> - the same force as voltage and the force between two magnets - and its sign 
> is always opposite to that of the applied motion or voltage.
> 
> As with Newton's 3rd law, many people miss why conservation of energy should 
> be dependent upon equal and opposite reactions.  The reason is that while 
> momentum scales linearly (P=MV), KE scales as half the square of velocity 
> (KE=1/2MV^2) - IOW compound interest on rising speed.  From a standing start, 
> we can accelerate 1 kg by 1 m/s using just 1/2 a Joule of energy.  But to 
> then increase its speed by another 1 m/s will cost four times the initial 
> price - 2 J.  To bump it up again by a third meter per second will cost 4.5 
> J, and so on.  To get it from 9 m/s up to 10 m/s, that same 1 m/s increment 
> of acceleration is gonna cost 9.5 Joules.
> 
> So why does the cost of KE square up like this?  It's because we have to 
> apply the same given force over an ever-increasing displacement, in order to 
> achieve the same consistent acceleration.  Alternatively, we could 
> progressively raise the applied force over a constant displacement increment, 
> but either way, the whole joules per meter/sec/kg game is one of massively 
> diminishing returns.
> 
> The reason is that the force is normally considered as applied from a second, 
> usually non-inertial (non-accelerating) frame - hence there's an ever rising 
> displacement between the thing you're accelerating and the thing it's pushing 
> against.  Hence KE rises as half the square of displacement / time.
> 
> But not so for momentum - since its very units and dimensions are mass times 
> velocity, it scales linearly.  Inertia is velocity-independent.
> 
> So an effective N3 violation would allow you to create energy by effectively 
> towing your reaction mass along for free.  Consider two adjacent 1kg masses 
> in free space connected via a perfectly elastic slack tether: an impulse is 
> applied between them, but because abracadabra, only one moves, until they 
> collide again; from either mass's frame of reference, that detail is 
> irrelevant - if we input 1 J of energy then that's all the system has, and 
> whether 1/2 a J resides in each mass or one has more than the other may seem 
> academic...
> 
> Until we repeat that input condition.  A second input Joule will raise the 
> net system energy to just 2J, no OU yet, but from an external FoR the net 
> system momentum has risen by a Joule or so... and as we repeat that input 
> condition, the net system momentum begins to square up, as KE is, by 
> definition, wont to do...  while internally, the relative velocity between 
> the oscillating masses never exceeds the linear sum of 1 J/kg/m/s inputs.  So 
> when the net system momentum reaches 10 m/s, we'll only have input 20 J of 
> work, but for a 100 J net system energy... IOW we've created 80 J from 
> dodging the usual 1/2V^2 premium.
> 
> So an N3 violation basically converts the dimensions of our input energy into 
> those of momentum - obviating the 1/2^2 accumulator.  We could accelerate a 1 
> kg mass to 10 m/s using just 5 J (1/2 J per m/s) - a speed at which it'll 
> have 50 J of KE from the stationary reference frame.
> 
> And exactly this same dynamic applies to EM systems - it's the same 
> fundamental symmetry; a Lenzless motor has a linear input energy for an 
> exponential output KE (RKE = 1/2 angular inertia times angular velocity 
> squared)... therefore beyond some (low) threshold of performance the output 
> energy integral punches diagonally straight through the flat-line input 
> integral, and keeps rising..
> 
> Essentially, accelerating a mass Lenzlessly would present no load upon the 
> power supply - only usual resistance losses remain, following Joule's 2nd law 
> for heat (Q=I^2RT where Q = J and I^2RT is current squared times resistance 
> times time)... calorimetry would thus show gains, while a passively 
> superconducting Lenzless reaction could summon infinite free momentum from 
> the vacuum without any incidental heating
> 
> EM or mechanical, the peak efficiency of an N3 break is a power of ten of 
> whatever's input.  In the admittedly spartan world of classical symmetry 
> breaks, an N3 exception would be the motherload.  Reactionless propulsion AND 
> free energy.
> 
> The source or sink is whatever manifests the 

Re: [Vo]:at your mercy: please explain what BackEMF/Lenz Law is - and what would happen if a motor/generator could be built that is not subject to them?

[Eric Walker]

Hi,

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:05 AM, Vibrator !  wrote:

So an effective N3 violation would allow you to create energy by
> effectively towing your reaction mass along for free.  Consider two
> adjacent 1kg masses in free space connected via a perfectly elastic slack
> tether: an impulse is applied between them, but because abracadabra, only
> one moves, until they collide again; from either mass's frame of reference,
> that detail is irrelevant - if we input 1 J of energy then that's all the
> system has, and whether 1/2 a J resides in each mass or one has more than
> the other may seem academic...
>

I followed your presentation, except for this part. It's not clear to me
how someone might propose that a system comprising two masses connected by
an elastic tether might be made to violate Newton's 3rd law.  When the
first mass, which is initially set in motion, begins to accelerate the mass
that was left at rest initially once the tether becomes taut, its momentum
will decrease as the momentum of the second mass increases, conserving
momentum for the system as a whole.

Eric

[Vo]:LENR on the Day of Technological Optimism

[Peter Gluck]

Just published.


http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/02/feb-8-2016-lenr-on-day-of-technological.html

Actually I have discovered that some things are better than they seem- in
our field.

peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:EVIDENCE FOR A DISTANT GIANT PLANET IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM

[MarkI-ZeroPoint]

I submitted a post to Vortex a few weeks ago on this, but here is the
peer-reviewed paper.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/0004-6256/151/2/22/meta;jsessionid
=661E43FED09E41AA6D98C36FC1BCCF2C.c4.iopscience.cld.iop.org

The PDF is freely downloadable.

 

Sitchin and the Sumerians may have been right all along.

 

-mark

 

[Vo]:Article: Chiral magnetic effect generates quantum current

[Jack Cole]

Scientists at the U.S Department of Energy's (DOE) Brookhaven National
Laboratory and Stony Brook University have discovered a new way to generate
very low-resistance electric current in a new class …

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