>From Jiang's paper (courtesy Bob Higgins translation):
"How could T1 and T2 temperatures differ by so much? This is because
thermocouple T1 is in
the atmosphere, and is easily equilibrated to room temperature. T2 is
located in a sealed stainless
steel vessel, and the gas inside the vessel is at a
There is another path to understanding LENR. That path is found in the
stars. Here follows a summation of that path less taken to LENR
understanding by Prof. Pierre-Marie Robitaille
Now that liquid metallic hydrogen has been advanced as a solar building
block, it is likely
that opposition will be
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
Do you have a reference to this statement
> ;
> " created by minute flakes of cathode material "
>
Myself. (It was just speculation.)
> The exotic particle that was assumed by this investigator was the
> poly-neutron
>
I know. My hunch is th
The material that escaped from the reactor was LENR active. A rubber O-ring
that absorbed this LENR active material shows LENR reactions when placed on
the CR-39.
Do you have a reference to this statement
;
" created by minute flakes of cathode material "
The exotic particle that was assumed by t
H LV wrote:
> > http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/japan-population/
>
> Median age of 53 by 2050?!
>
Yup. It is 47 now. The trends for the next 20 years are demographically
irreversible. People could start having babies like mad and the population
would still fall, with the overhang
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Vibrator ! wrote:
Can't help thinking optical thermometry would be preferable since it's
> impervious to heat damage... assuming the steel currently used for
> chambers is entirely incidental to the reaction, a transparent ceramic
> would would allow direct obser
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Russ George wrote:
Clearly they have been observed in Fisher/Orianni work and produced large
> showers of radiation.
An interpretation of the Oriani work that does not involve exotic particles
is that the pits in the CR-39 chips were created by minute flakes of
Wow! How many languages do you know?
harry
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Bob Higgins wrote:
> I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
> trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English. Google
> translate just wasn't good enough. If you read through t
T3 is not connected.
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Jack Cole wrote:
>
> T1 is in an air gap apparently. Possibly that could make more sense.
>>
>
> Let's see . . . You mean it is installed in the middle of the "T-Bone"
> shaped reactor, in the air gap between the react
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Bob Higgins wrote:
>
>> I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
>> trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English.
>
>
> That's very helpful. Thank you!
>
> I did not know you speak Chinese. I suppos
Perhaps a Fisher polyneutron would reveal itself in a 'beta shower' that the
NaI instrument would see.
From: Ludwik Kowalski [mailto:kowals...@mail.montclair.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
I am not fami
His 'alpha' showers seem to be about the same number of events as the recent
MFMP Bremstrahlung.
From: Ludwik Kowalski [mailto:kowals...@mail.montclair.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 7:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
I am not familiar w
I am not familiar with new experimental results. Dr Fisher said he will publish
a new report, before the end of 2015. But he didn't I hope he is OK.
Ludwik
==
On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Russ George wrote:
> Ludwik, What’s your opinion of Fisher’s polyneutrons these days?
>
> From:
Ludwik, What's your opinion of Fisher's polyneutrons these days?
From: Ludwik Kowalski [mailto:kowals...@mail.montclair.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
I suppose that at least one member of the Chinese
As a cold fusion experimentalist it is astonishing to see such experiments
being done with so few thermocouples. They are incredibly cheap and using many
for redundancy purposes is just common sense. It used to be that the data
channels were in short supply but these days many data channels is
Bob Higgins wrote:
I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
> trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English.
>
That's very helpful. Thank you!
I did not know you speak Chinese. I suppose that is more in demand in the
21st century than Japanese. I shoul
H LV wrote:
> Ok, but if there was so much more heat being produced in the reactor
> why is T1 dropping so quickly while T4 is gradually rising?
>
Well, there was that last burst of internal heat, ~24 minutes long, shown
by T1 and T2. I suppose that threw the system out of equilibrium. The
surf
I suppose that at least one member of the Chinese Team
is following this thread. If not then perhaps someone will be willing to send
them an invitation. It would be useful to be able to ask questions.
Ludwik
===
Ludwik Kowalski.
On Feb 29, 2016
Thank you very very much, to both you, Jed, and others.
Ludwik
=
On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Bob Higgins wrote:
> I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
> trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English. Googl
I was interested enough in Dr. Jiang's latest paper that I went to the
trouble to do a proper translation from Chinese to English. Google
translate just wasn't good enough. If you read through the Google
translate version, you skip over things that Google didn't translate well
enough - and in fac
On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:33 PM, H LV wrote: " ... The softest x-rays are stopped
by air."
Sorry for nit-picking. I would not say "stopped by air." I would say "loose
energy mostly by photoelectric and Compton collisions with oxygen and nitrogen
atoms, in air."
Ludwik
==
The term x-ray covers a wide range of em energies. The softest x-rays
are stopped by air.
Harry
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Russ George wrote:
> If x-ray "warming" is taking place then we are at the very simple 'dead
> graduate student' test phase.. a dose of radiation capable of warming
If x-ray "warming" is taking place then we are at the very simple 'dead
graduate student' test phase.. a dose of radiation capable of warming anything
is surely lethal so just look into the lab and count the number of dead grad
students lying on the floor, any number greater than 0 means a drama
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H LV wrote:
>
>> Notice the delayed rise in T4 at the beginning of the experiment. The
>>
>> rise in T4 after power is turned off might just be the delayed
>> dissipation of heat from inside to the outside.
>
>
> I do not think so. Look close
Calorimetry's the last word of course, and yes the data from the external
TC's is exciting. My point about optical thermometry though was that it's
possible to have a window into the reactor (using transparent ceramics) and
so read the internal light... no doubt Rossi or others have already trie
This is a revival of an earlier thread.
From: Russ George
* What about a secondary muon target re-emitter… what would the ideal
target and emission be?
According to the literature, muons are absorbed in rough linear proportion to
the atomic number of the target…. Since Uranium (92) would
Sorry for my last comment; I was thought I were commenting on VORTEX's earlier
post.
On Feb 29, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Ludwik Kowalski wrote:
> 1) Suppose a wish list is composed, containing suggested technological
> innovations for Artificial Intelligence (AI) robots. Would such a list be
> useful
Jack Cole wrote:
T1 is in an air gap apparently. Possibly that could make more sense.
>
Let's see . . . You mean it is installed in the middle of the "T-Bone"
shaped reactor, in the air gap between the reactor and the "DC Power"
heaters (shown in orange). I guess it is touching the reactor.
Th
Vibrator ! wrote:
Can't help thinking optical thermometry would be preferable since it's
> impervious to heat damage...
>
But you can't use it for the inside thermocouples, and the outside one (T4)
is at moderate temperatures peaking at 167°C. There is no way that
temperature could cause damage.
T1 is in an air gap apparently. Possibly that could make more sense.
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:49 PM Jack Cole wrote:
> Jed, I thought the same when looking at the graphs. It doesn't make much
> sense. He needs to get some better control over the input power to keep
> from burning up his TCs.
1) Suppose a wish list is composed, containing suggested technological
innovations for Artificial Intelligence (AI) robots. Would such a list be
useful to leaders of technology?
2) My first wish would be a computer operating system (OS) which allows for at
least three hundreds of "human undo s
Can't help thinking optical thermometry would be preferable since it's
impervious to heat damage... assuming the steel currently used for
chambers is entirely incidental to the reaction, a transparent ceramic
would would allow direct observation - if not for the whole chamber, then
at least a via
Jed, I thought the same when looking at the graphs. It doesn't make much
sense. He needs to get some better control over the input power to keep
from burning up his TCs.
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:13 PM Jed Rothwell wrote:
> H LV wrote:
>
> Notice the delayed rise in T4 at the beginning of the
H LV wrote:
Notice the delayed rise in T4 at the beginning of the experiment. The
rise in T4 after power is turned off might just be the delayed
> dissipation of heat from inside to the outside.
>
I do not think so. Look closely as the power is being reduced, at around
time 14:00, shortly befor
Cool topic, cognitive science is one of my interests. I think that at the
stage we're at, the outstanding technical challenges aren't so much
quantitative as qualitative - we need to crack the Hard Problem, for an
emergent, bottom-up intelligence rather than a "brute forced" but top-down
Turing ch
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
>for the second run, shows a similar pattern, with T1 falling
> steadily and monotonically after the power is turned off, while T2 goes
> bananas. However, this graph also shows T4 increasing after the power turns
> off. T4 is mounted on the o
I wrote:
Figure 2, for the second run, shows a similar pattern . . .
>
ARRRGGH! I meant *Figure 3* for the second run.
I wish I could fix these messages.
Fig. 1. Configuration
Fig. 2. First run, showing T1 and T2 readings. But not T4.
Fig. 3. Second run, showing T1, T2 and T4.
I wish he had sh
I wrote:
> Thermocouple T2 on the outside of the cell does not show self-sustaining
> anomalous heat after power is turned off. It falls smoothly and
> monotonically.
>
Oops. I meant T1 on the outside of the cell, sandwiched between the cell
and the the MgO thermal insulation material. It does f
I am sorry to say this, but it looks to me like Jiang had the same problem
this time as last time. The T2 thermocouple in the center of the cell
overheated. It exceeded the 1372°C limit for that device. It probably did
this early in the experiment on May 4. After that it is erratic, and I do
not tr
The long period of self-sustained heat is exactly what everyone wants to see.
This is what we were hoping to see from MFMP, due to all the buildup. Perhaps
it will happen this time for Alan and Mark.
From: Jed Rothwell
See:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Attachment/52
From: Mark Jurich
* If another scintillator is secured, it is quite possible to run it
without immediate lead surrounding it, but it will be close to the Lead Cave,
I’m afraid (within a couple feet away, tops).
Mark - Being close with an unshielded unit will convey far more relevant
i
See:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Attachment/520-20160301-125433238-pdf/?s=3a03aad919292f429f6fa5106e356d459314aa42
The abstract is in English, and Google translate does a pretty good job of
translating the whole paper. Go to:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&j
Here’s a question of those whose imaginations include exotic particles.. what
might be the characteristics of polyneutrons? Would they have the same
half-life as a single neutron or ??? Clearly they have been observed in
Fisher/Orianni work and produced large showers of radiation. They also trav
RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiationThe Lead Cave must be nearby (with the
scintillator in it) to replicate. If another scintillator
is secured, it is quite possible to run it without immediate lead surrounding
it, but it will be close to the Lead Cave, I’m afraid
(within a couple feet away, tops
Quite interesting news, great space for even better ones
To decide: the reality or the image of LENR is the more difficult problem -
actually?
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/02/feb-29-2016-good-lenr-news-discussing.html
Best wishes,
Peter
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpet
sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150212065135.htm
Snip>
In string theory, there exist many dualities: equivalent descriptions of a
problem in two different ways. Depending on the problem, one description is
usually easier than the other. The most famous was discovered by Juan
Maldacena in 1997.
One of the amazing properties of the monopole field is that it makes the
matter that it encompasses impervious to destruction. Hydrogen Rydberg
Matter covered in a monopole EMF field would be impervious to a nuclear
bomb blast. This can be understood in the experiments of LeClair, where he
produces
From: Eric Walker
* To play devil's advocate, the hypothetical neutron flux could have
produced short-lived beta radioisotopes when they activated something in or
near the experiment.
Eric,
Even without activation - the neutron itself is a beta emitter. Free neutrons
have a half-life
There are a zillion cute cat videos on the Internet. This one is food for
thought. It tells you a lot about the nature of animal intelligence, and it
demonstrates that animals are still far ahead of the best robots and
artificial intelligence computers in many ways. This is a 6-second video
GIF.
h
There are non nuclear mechanisms how may generate x-gamma radiation.
Tape can produce it.
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/012345/full/news.2008.1185.html
Maybe same mechanism is in work during crack formation. The energy may
be enough to produce gamma rays if its enough to produce fraktofus
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
Jones, the moral of the story is that the large amount of lead (and it
> probably took a whole lot for the HPGe detector) converted some of the
> cosmic rays into a small *neutron* flux. MFMP did not measure neutrons.
>
To play devil's advocat
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