[Vo]:Food-and drink-slinging robots

[Axil Axil]

http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/food/will-salad-robot-be-a-job-killer


But as a growing number of food-and drink-slinging robots have begun
interacting with diners in the San Francisco Bay Area, Mr Deepak Sekar, the
device's inventor and founder and chief executive of Chowbotics, has faced
questions about whether his machine will put people out of work.

robot-induced unemployment is a mounting concern. Microsoft founder Bill
Gates recently made a case for taxing companies that own robots, which
could delay their implementation and provide some money to retrain people
whose jobs are lost.

The San Francisco board of supervisors is considering a so-called robot tax.

Re: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works

[ROGER ANDERTON]

Pilot wave theory comes from Bohm, he had the problem that he was accused of 
being a communist, and so that had bad effect on his career in US, his student 
Vigier had similar problems, and Myron Evans who followed on from Vigier has 
similar problems. It was part of Einstein's unified field theory research 
program to combine (non Copenhagen interpretation) quantum physics with 
relativity. My website dealing with talks on unified field theory at: 
http://unifiedfieldtheory.co.uk/
One of the problems as I perceive it is that in Physics education they teach 
students to believe making math mistakes is the way to do things.
one example at: Maths contradiction in Einstein's relativity with its 
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future talk: XVIII SERBIAN ASTRONOMICAL CONFERENCE17-21 October 2017, Belgrade, 
Serbia Book of abstracts, eds. L.C. Popovi ́c, D. Uroˇsevi ́c and R. Pavlovi ́c 
Astronomical Observatory and Faculty of Mathematics, Belgrade, 2017 Progress 
Report BOSCOVICH’S COMPREHESION OF ABSOLUTE AND RELATIVE MOVEMENT 

On Sunday, 8 October 2017, 19:25, Eric Walker  wrote:
 

 On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Bob Higgins  wrote:

Continued investigation of the EM-drive may be the crack in physics that 
finally shows that conventional quantum mechanics is an arcane, obsolete, and 
incomplete formulation of the physics of small matter.  Just because quantum 
mechanics mostly works, doesn't mean it is a good formulation of the problem.

It is important to distinguish the Copenhagen interpretation of QM from the 
results of the mathematical calculations.  I understand that many physicists 
consider the mathematical calculations to be the essential part of QM and the 
Copenhagen interpretation to be something that is up for debate and a function 
of personal tastes.  I gather that the results of the QM calculations are the 
effectively the same in almost all cases, whether you're considering standard 
calculations or ones based on pilot waves.  When the topic of the Copenhagen 
interpretation and pilot waves has come up for discussion, the challenge that 
has been raised is to produce a case where an experiment will distinguish 
between the two.  Without an experiment to sort between the two descriptions, 
the selection of interpretation is perhaps a philosophical/esthetic one.
There are a few corner cases where the pilot wave approach will yield different 
results.  Perhaps the EM drive is tapping into one of them.
Eric


   

RE: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing PieceThat Explains How The EM Drive Works

[JonesBeene]

I was looking on YT for visualizations of pilot wave dynamics which might help 
explain the EM drive specifically. That may be too much to ask for.

Often this type of wave interaction experiment is done on silicon oil – using 
water beads which display QM characteristics when audio waves are applied. From 
that point on, it requires imagination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmC0ygr08tE

About 2 minutes into this next one, the effect of dual waves is demonstrated. A 
huge jump in motional effects is seen. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDh9zTv9LRk=171s

That could point the way to an easy improvement of the EM drive – multiple 
frequencies. 

By the way DTMF stands for Dual Tone – Multi Frequency. It is the basis for 
your touch-tone® telephone so it may seem low tech at first. 

It is far from low tech. Too bad ATT did not dig deeper.

 It looks to me like the EM drive would benefit from DTMF.




From: Sean True 

In lieu of the paywalled article, this earlier preprint may be illuminating: 
http://vixra.org/abs/1706.0283

Bob Higgins wrote:
Pilot wave theory posits that particle positions can be known and there is no 
wave-particle duality.  Instead, a "pilot wave" guides the particles through 
the slits and standing waves in the "medium" are what produces apparent 
wave-like behavior of particle motion.  Pilot wave theory itself does not 
hypothesize what the "medium" comprises that is able to propagate the guiding 
wave.  I think Pilot Wave Theory fits perfectly with Hotson's EPO ether.

Continued investigation of the EM-drive may be the crack in physics that 
finally shows that conventional quantum mechanics is an arcane, obsolete, and 
incomplete formulation of the physics of small matter.  Just because quantum 
mechanics mostly works, doesn't mean it is a good formulation of the problem.   
 

Jack Cole wrote:
This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM 
Drive Works
http://flip.it/R11OHO

Re: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works

[Sean True]

In lieu of the paywalled article, this earlier preprint may be
illuminating: http://vixra.org/abs/1706.0283

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Bob Higgins 
wrote:

> Pilot wave theory posits that particle positions can be known and there is
> no wave-particle duality.  Instead, a "pilot wave" guides the particles
> through the slits and standing waves in the "medium" are what produces
> apparent wave-like behavior of particle motion.  Pilot wave theory itself
> does not hypothesize what the "medium" comprises that is able to propagate
> the guiding wave.  I think Pilot Wave Theory fits perfectly with Hotson's
> EPO ether.
>
> Continued investigation of the EM-drive may be the crack in physics that
> finally shows that conventional quantum mechanics is an arcane, obsolete,
> and incomplete formulation of the physics of small matter.  Just because
> quantum mechanics mostly works, doesn't mean it is a good formulation of
> the problem.
>
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Jack Cole  wrote:
>
>> This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The
>> EM Drive Works
>>
>> http://flip.it/R11OHO
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works

[Eric Walker]

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Bob Higgins 
wrote:

Continued investigation of the EM-drive may be the crack in physics that
> finally shows that conventional quantum mechanics is an arcane, obsolete,
> and incomplete formulation of the physics of small matter.  Just because
> quantum mechanics mostly works, doesn't mean it is a good formulation of
> the problem.
>

It is important to distinguish the Copenhagen interpretation of QM from the
results of the mathematical calculations.  I understand that many
physicists consider the mathematical calculations to be the essential part
of QM and the Copenhagen interpretation to be something that is up for
debate and a function of personal tastes.  I gather that the results of the
QM calculations are the effectively the same in almost all cases, whether
you're considering standard calculations or ones based on pilot waves.
When the topic of the Copenhagen interpretation and pilot waves has come up
for discussion, the challenge that has been raised is to produce a case
where an experiment will distinguish between the two.  Without an
experiment to sort between the two descriptions, the selection of
interpretation is perhaps a philosophical/esthetic one.

There are a few corner cases where the pilot wave approach will yield
different results.  Perhaps the EM drive is tapping into one of them.

Eric

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[Frank Znidarsic]

You have to think really hard to find a useful unique product in the android 
market.  I will have this one out by the year's end.  




We didn't find results for "foot control video recorder" in Apps & Games.
Here are results from All Departments,

[Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works

[Bob Higgins]

Pilot wave theory posits that particle positions can be known and there is
no wave-particle duality.  Instead, a "pilot wave" guides the particles
through the slits and standing waves in the "medium" are what produces
apparent wave-like behavior of particle motion.  Pilot wave theory itself
does not hypothesize what the "medium" comprises that is able to propagate
the guiding wave.  I think Pilot Wave Theory fits perfectly with Hotson's
EPO ether.

Continued investigation of the EM-drive may be the crack in physics that
finally shows that conventional quantum mechanics is an arcane, obsolete,
and incomplete formulation of the physics of small matter.  Just because
quantum mechanics mostly works, doesn't mean it is a good formulation of
the problem.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Jack Cole  wrote:

> This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM
> Drive Works
>
> http://flip.it/R11OHO
>

Re: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works

[Axil Axil]

Russ,

Does this paper help?

https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/10.2514/1.B36120



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:32 AM, Russ George  wrote:

> Alas once again the world of vulture science has placed this seemingly
> interesting paper behind a paywall. We need a grand inquisitor to take on
> the world of science again but this time to apply the screws to those in
> science who put knowledge behind paywalls. The world cannot afford nor
> should it tolerate this sort of perverse capitalism. Science trolls
> greedily guarding the bridges to knowledge need to be eliminated.
>
>
>
> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 8, 2017 8:23 AM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing
> Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works
>
>
>
> What the pilot wave theory applied to the EM drive does not explicitly say
> is that a coherent wave pattern acts like a large particle. The Em drive
> becomes a large particle. It goes to reason if the EM drive where made
> coherent then the EM drive would be very much more powerful because the
> coherent resonant pilot wave would coherently coupled with the EM drive
> making everything a single giant particle.  A superconductive EM drive
> would do that.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Jack Cole  wrote:
>
> This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM
> Drive Works
>
> http://flip.it/R11OHO
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM Drive Works

[Russ George]

Alas once again the world of vulture science has placed this seemingly 
interesting paper behind a paywall. We need a grand inquisitor to take on the 
world of science again but this time to apply the screws to those in science 
who put knowledge behind paywalls. The world cannot afford nor should it 
tolerate this sort of perverse capitalism. Science trolls greedily guarding the 
bridges to knowledge need to be eliminated.

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 8:23 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Article: This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece 
That Explains How The EM Drive Works

 

What the pilot wave theory applied to the EM drive does not explicitly say is 
that a coherent wave pattern acts like a large particle. The Em drive becomes a 
large particle. It goes to reason if the EM drive where made coherent then the 
EM drive would be very much more powerful because the coherent resonant pilot 
wave would coherently coupled with the EM drive making everything a single 
giant particle.  A superconductive EM drive would do that.

 

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Jack Cole  > wrote:

This Overlooked Theory Could Be The Missing Piece That Explains How The EM 
Drive Works

http://flip.it/R11OHO