Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[Jones Beene]

Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:  
> The Dirac formalism is a global view on a distributed system that is a 
> contradiction in itself and thus SM is a failure by design already. 



More on the failure of the standard model
Mysterious particles spewing from Antarctica defy physics

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seems to be a common theme these days...

   

[Vo]:World's fastest spinning object

[H LV]

quote
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https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-break-record-fastest-spinning-object


Harry

Re: [Vo]:cannon balls and curling stones

[H LV]

Andrew,

Andrew,

This is amazing. I have been pondering what puts the curl into a curling
stone for over 15 years and this week my intuition has been bolstered by
letting the entire surface of a planet be a curling rink and reading about
the work of Eötvös. The physics of curling is a controversial area of
physics with competing theories. However, I don't think anyone has
considered what effect the rotation of the planet might have on the weight
of the stones as they move.

I don't know about GR but some interesting things would happen if the disc
also spins as it slides over the surface like a curling stone on ice.
The weight-density of the disk will vary around it even if it is of uniform
mass-density. This because the contact velocity also varies around the
stone do to combination of its orbital and spin motion. If the surface is
frictionless but supple (not perfectly rigid) the reactionary force around
the disk will vary and be a maximum where the weight density is a maximum
which will result in a orbit that isn't a great circle. Alternatively if
the surface is perfectly rigid but does have friction this could generate
some non-circle paths as well before the disk comes to rest.

Harry

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 2:06 PM Andrew Meulenberg 
wrote:

> Harry,
>
> You are touching on an important area that I am also contemplating. Your
> frictionless, smooth, planet provides a constraint to the motion of a disk
> on its surface. It is a real (physical) constraint, independent of frame of
> reference and disk velocity. What about the nuclear hard core or the
> centrifugal force?  The centrifugal force is frame dependent and only
> provides a virtual potential. I don't know if the nuclear hard core has
> been adequately defined yet.
>
> However, if your disk is traveling fast enough to not touch the surface
> and then slows down just enough to touch the surface, then its interaction
> with a "weight-measuring" device would indicate it to have no weight prior
> to touch down and a very small weight afterward. In GR, a small deviation
> from a geodesic (where "weight" would be zero) would result in a small
> restoring force. Thus, as the disk slows down, its geodesic changes. If the
> planet surface prevents the alteration of the disk's path to follow the
> changing geodesic, then it experiences a slight force from the attempt to
> alter the path to get the disk back to its geodesic. This small force on a
> measuring device would certainly not correspond to the weight of the disk
> if it were stationary on the surface.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:01 PM H LV  wrote:
>
>> I don`t think it matters if the planet is rotating since the surface is
>> frictionless.
>>
>> Of course measuring a change of weight in the real  world that is
>> exclusively due to the rotation of earth is complicated by many variables.
>> The link you provided on the reactive centrifugal force could be one of
>> those variables as well as the coriolis force. If a spring balance is used
>> to measure weight, wouldn't the length of an unloaded spring be affected by
>> the rotation? If so they could give the impression of weight change when
>> the spring is loaded.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 8:19 AM Andrew Meulenberg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Harry,
>>>
>>> For your ice covered planet, you may need to indicate if it is rotating
>>> or not and then, depending on your frame of reference, address Coriolis
>>> forces.
>>>
>>> This link addresses the weight at poles vs that at the equator.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force#Weight_of_an_object_at_the_poles_and_on_the_equator
>>>
>>> The difference between* centrifugal force* vs the *reactive*
>>> centrifugal force[41]
>>> 
>>> [42]
>>>  is
>>> interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_centrifugal_force#Difference_from_centrifugal_pseudoforce
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> _ __ _
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:30 PM H LV  wrote:
>>>

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:46 PM H LV  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:21 PM H LV  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:15 AM H LV  wrote:
>>
>>> This is an illustration from Newton's Principia of his famous cannon
>>> thought experiment. It shows how a cannonball fired horizontally from a
>>> mountain top (assuming no air resistance) will orbit the Earth without
>>> falling to the ground if it is fired with sufficient speed.
>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/dzSLWaa
>>>
>>> Now imagine an ice covered planet which is perfectly smooth, with no
>>> mountains or valleys. On the surface rests a curling stone of a given
>>> _weight_. If the curling stone is propelled horizontally with sufficient
>>> speed it will orbit the planet while sliding over the surface. At this
>>> velocity it 

Re: [Vo]:Space Force Patch

[ChemE Stewart]

https://dai.ly/xmagzq

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 6:19 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

> https://i.postimg.cc/MXJQw19p/image.png
>

[Vo]:Space Force Patch

[Terry Blanton]

https://i.postimg.cc/MXJQw19p/image.png

RE: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Light, once created by a reduction in potential energy and released from a real 
system comprised of a balance of kinetic and potential energy before the 
release, may not again interact with another system of PE equal to KE and pass 
to new space without a previous event and hence with  no time.  (The light is 
lost forever in new space  since space if ever expanding at a clip faster than 
the light  enters the new space.)

When this happens the universe has an increase of entropy, consistent with the 
2nd Law.

The newly formed space. however, has information. since its  parameters are 
established as the new space forms and govern the progression of light in the 
new space.  If mass and information are the same, the new space has mass.  
The parameters are permittivity and permeability.







From: H LV 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:10:14 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, 
physicist says

There are other proposed arrows of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time

harry

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:08 PM ChemE Stewart 
mailto:cheme...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This place is mostly of entropy, radiation and hot air...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:51 AM H LV 
mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote:
quote << Vopson says, "He [Landauer] first identified the link between 
thermodynamics and information by postulating that logical irreversibility of a 
computational process implies physical irreversibility." This indicates that 
information is physical, Vopson says, and demonstrates the link between 
information theory and thermodynamics>>

Classical mechanics since its inception contained no arrow of time. This set 
the stage for perennial crisis of time in physics which has never been 
resolved. IMO, it is not enough to question the foundations of quantum 
mechanics and relativity. We have to reboot physics from the 16 century onward.

harry

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:03 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

bigthink.com:
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory
From: H LV
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, 
physicist says

There are other proposed arrows of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time

harry

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:08 PM ChemE Stewart 
mailto:cheme...@gmail.com>> wrote:
This place is mostly of entropy, radiation and hot air...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:51 AM H LV 
mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote:
quote << Vopson says, "He [Landauer] first identified the link between 
thermodynamics and information by postulating that logical irreversibility of a 
computational process implies physical irreversibility." This indicates that 
information is physical, Vopson says, and demonstrates the link between 
information theory and thermodynamics>>

Classical mechanics since its inception contained no arrow of time. This set 
the stage for perennial crisis of time in physics which has never been 
resolved. IMO, it is not enough to question the foundations of quantum 
mechanics and relativity. We have to reboot physics from the 16 century onward.

harry

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:03 PM Terry Blanton 
mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote:

bigthink.com:
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory

Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Computational theory, tightly linked to information theory, long time 
ago did prove that there is no way to have a global time (-arrow) if you 
deal with distributed systems. Any physics dealing with two separate 
particles that do exchange information = share varying magnetic flux or 
potential is a distributed system.
Time can only be represented by a DAG (directed acyclic graph) or in 
prose by partial ordered events.


The Dirac formalism is a global view on a distributed system what is a 
contradiction in itself and thus SM is a failure by design already. The 
general education of physicists has strongly declined (e.g. missing 
basic recognition theory/information theory/basic mathematical calculus 
theory -numerics fundament)  and (self-) cheating is the dominating 
motivation behind many famous papers like the 20'000 Feynman diagram 
electron g-factor project that simply is fraud.


According Shannon: Information = measurable Energy; The better you can 
measure the more information you get but the inverse conclusion is 
wrong!! You cannot reproduce the exact energy of a system from 
information due to the finite quantization error due to imperfect hardware.


J.W.

Am 24.01.20 um 17:51 schrieb H LV:
quote << Vopson says, "He [Landauer] first identified the link between 
thermodynamics and information by postulating that logical 
irreversibility of a computational process implies physical 
irreversibility." This indicates that information is physical, Vopson 
says, and demonstrates the link between information theory and 
thermodynamics>>


Classical mechanics since its inception contained no arrow of time. 
This set the stage for perennial crisis of time in physics which has 
never been resolved. IMO, it is not enough to question the foundations 
of quantum mechanics and relativity. We have to reboot physics from 
the 16 century onward.


harry

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:03 PM Terry Blanton > wrote:



bigthink.com :
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory



--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
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079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[H LV]

I also reserve the right to change my opinions and my beliefs as I learn
new things and grow. ;-p.

Harry

On Fri., Jan. 24, 2020, 1:10 p.m. H LV,  wrote:

> There are other proposed arrows of time.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time
>
> harry
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:08 PM ChemE Stewart  wrote:
>
>> This place is mostly of entropy, radiation and hot air...
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:51 AM H LV  wrote:
>>
>>> quote << Vopson says, "He [Landauer] first identified the link between
>>> thermodynamics and information by postulating that logical irreversibility
>>> of a computational process implies physical irreversibility." This
>>> indicates that information is physical, Vopson says, and demonstrates the
>>> link between information theory and thermodynamics>>
>>>
>>> Classical mechanics since its inception contained no arrow of time. This
>>> set the stage for perennial crisis of time in physics which has never been
>>> resolved. IMO, it is not enough to question the foundations of quantum
>>> mechanics and relativity. We have to reboot physics from the 16 century
>>> onward.
>>>
>>> harry
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:03 PM Terry Blanton 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 bigthink.com:
 https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory

>>>

Re: [Vo]:cannon balls and curling stones

[Andrew Meulenberg]

Harry,

You are touching on an important area that I am also contemplating. Your
frictionless, smooth, planet provides a constraint to the motion of a disk
on its surface. It is a real (physical) constraint, independent of frame of
reference and disk velocity. What about the nuclear hard core or the
centrifugal force?  The centrifugal force is frame dependent and only
provides a virtual potential. I don't know if the nuclear hard core has
been adequately defined yet.

However, if your disk is traveling fast enough to not touch the surface and
then slows down just enough to touch the surface, then its interaction with
a "weight-measuring" device would indicate it to have no weight prior to
touch down and a very small weight afterward. In GR, a small deviation from
a geodesic (where "weight" would be zero) would result in a small restoring
force. Thus, as the disk slows down, its geodesic changes. If the planet
surface prevents the alteration of the disk's path to follow the changing
geodesic, then it experiences a slight force from the attempt to alter the
path to get the disk back to its geodesic. This small force on a measuring
device would certainly not correspond to the weight of the disk if it were
stationary on the surface.

Andrew


On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:01 PM H LV  wrote:

> I don`t think it matters if the planet is rotating since the surface is
> frictionless.
>
> Of course measuring a change of weight in the real  world that is
> exclusively due to the rotation of earth is complicated by many variables.
> The link you provided on the reactive centrifugal force could be one of
> those variables as well as the coriolis force. If a spring balance is used
> to measure weight, wouldn't the length of an unloaded spring be affected by
> the rotation? If so they could give the impression of weight change when
> the spring is loaded.
>
> Harry
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 8:19 AM Andrew Meulenberg 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Harry,
>>
>> For your ice covered planet, you may need to indicate if it is rotating
>> or not and then, depending on your frame of reference, address Coriolis
>> forces.
>>
>> This link addresses the weight at poles vs that at the equator.
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force#Weight_of_an_object_at_the_poles_and_on_the_equator
>>
>> The difference between* centrifugal force* vs the *reactive* centrifugal
>> force[41]
>> [42]
>>  is
>> interesting.
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_centrifugal_force#Difference_from_centrifugal_pseudoforce
>>
>> Andrew
>> _ __ _
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:30 PM H LV  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:46 PM H LV  wrote:
>>>

 On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:21 PM H LV  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:15 AM H LV  wrote:
>
>> This is an illustration from Newton's Principia of his famous cannon
>> thought experiment. It shows how a cannonball fired horizontally from a
>> mountain top (assuming no air resistance) will orbit the Earth without
>> falling to the ground if it is fired with sufficient speed.
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/dzSLWaa
>>
>> Now imagine an ice covered planet which is perfectly smooth, with no
>> mountains or valleys. On the surface rests a curling stone of a given
>> _weight_. If the curling stone is propelled horizontally with sufficient
>> speed it will orbit the planet while sliding over the surface. At this
>> velocity it will be in free fall so its weight will be effectively zero.
>> The question is does the weight of the curling stone gradually increase 
>> as
>> the horizontal velocity gradually decreases or does the curling stone
>> resume its full weight for any velocity less than the orbital velocity?
>>
>> Harry
>>
>
> To answer my own question... the classical prediction is the weight of
> the stone should increase, because the centrifugal force is decreasing in
> the frame of reference of the stone. However, if gravity in General
> Relativity is not a force then a corresponding a centrifugal force does 
> not
> arise. Therefore, if GR is true, the weight of the stone should jump to 
> its
> full weight for any value less than the orbital speed. (Actually I think
> there is argument to be made that even Newtonian gravity is not a force 
> and
> is just an acceleration).
> Harry
>

 Just a follow up. Since a body sitting at the equator is moving faster
 than the same body near the pole it should weigh less due to the greater
 centrifugal force caused by the Earth's rotation. Until  recently I don't
 think anyone had tried to measure this predicted effect and it was just
 taken for granted to be true. (There have been tests on the equivalence of
 inertial mass and 

Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[H LV]

There are other proposed arrows of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time

harry

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:08 PM ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> This place is mostly of entropy, radiation and hot air...
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:51 AM H LV  wrote:
>
>> quote << Vopson says, "He [Landauer] first identified the link between
>> thermodynamics and information by postulating that logical irreversibility
>> of a computational process implies physical irreversibility." This
>> indicates that information is physical, Vopson says, and demonstrates the
>> link between information theory and thermodynamics>>
>>
>> Classical mechanics since its inception contained no arrow of time. This
>> set the stage for perennial crisis of time in physics which has never been
>> resolved. IMO, it is not enough to question the foundations of quantum
>> mechanics and relativity. We have to reboot physics from the 16 century
>> onward.
>>
>> harry
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:03 PM Terry Blanton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> bigthink.com:
>>> https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory
>>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[H LV]

history of the balloon -15 minutes
https://youtu.be/jjqdgbFGFiE

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:08 PM ChemE Stewart  wrote:

> This place is mostly of entropy, radiation and hot air...
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:51 AM H LV  wrote:
>
>> quote << Vopson says, "He [Landauer] first identified the link between
>> thermodynamics and information by postulating that logical irreversibility
>> of a computational process implies physical irreversibility." This
>> indicates that information is physical, Vopson says, and demonstrates the
>> link between information theory and thermodynamics>>
>>
>> Classical mechanics since its inception contained no arrow of time. This
>> set the stage for perennial crisis of time in physics which has never been
>> resolved. IMO, it is not enough to question the foundations of quantum
>> mechanics and relativity. We have to reboot physics from the 16 century
>> onward.
>>
>> harry
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:03 PM Terry Blanton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> bigthink.com:
>>> https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory
>>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[ChemE Stewart]

This place is mostly of entropy, radiation and hot air...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)


On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:51 AM H LV  wrote:

> quote << Vopson says, "He [Landauer] first identified the link between
> thermodynamics and information by postulating that logical irreversibility
> of a computational process implies physical irreversibility." This
> indicates that information is physical, Vopson says, and demonstrates the
> link between information theory and thermodynamics>>
>
> Classical mechanics since its inception contained no arrow of time. This
> set the stage for perennial crisis of time in physics which has never been
> resolved. IMO, it is not enough to question the foundations of quantum
> mechanics and relativity. We have to reboot physics from the 16 century
> onward.
>
> harry
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:03 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:
>
>>
>> bigthink.com:
>> https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[H LV]

quote << Vopson says, "He [Landauer] first identified the link between
thermodynamics and information by postulating that logical irreversibility
of a computational process implies physical irreversibility." This
indicates that information is physical, Vopson says, and demonstrates the
link between information theory and thermodynamics>>

Classical mechanics since its inception contained no arrow of time. This
set the stage for perennial crisis of time in physics which has never been
resolved. IMO, it is not enough to question the foundations of quantum
mechanics and relativity. We have to reboot physics from the 16 century
onward.

harry

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:03 PM Terry Blanton  wrote:

>
> bigthink.com:
> https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory
>

RE: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Jones—

Its “Tit for Tat” or “Quid Pro Quo” as some would have it.  

Maybe even the “Word” is all that is.  Words are not real—kinda-like 
information with a sole stemming from the speaker’s mind.

Any natural law of the universes is non-real and is equal to “the truth”—“the 
Word”.  This information is an abstraction, and within  the batch of 
abstractions labeled theologies-- this one about natural laws is called 
pantheism.  Einstein was said to harbor pantheistic ideas.

The idea first seemed to be recorded as information by the Greeks and may have 
influenced Jesus’s non-materialistic ideas as well.

Regarding mass—Jurg’s SO(4) physics explains that mass is associated with the 
rotation of magnetic flux—close to the idea of a rotating magnetic field on a 
toroidal surface with a femtometer order of size in familiar 3-d space.

Bob Cook

---
From: JonesBeene
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 6:32 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, 
physicist says

From: Terry Blanton

bigthink.com:
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory

This is a very provocative idea – that information has actual mass…guess that 
is why it is featured on a site called “the big think”…

The concept also relates to LENR in a back door way – since Holmlid suggests 
that matter can be  completely annihilated or turned into energy. Is this the 
modern version of “book burning”??

The author of the piece, Philip Perry did not claim exactly  that dark matter 
or the black hole is a repository of information, but that is the implication. 
OTOH another article by Philip suggests that Jesus (yes, that Jesus) used 
Cannabis for some of his miracle cures. This kind of lateral thinking made me 
want to immediately sign up to get the blog until I noticed how many trackers 
it had already tried to install.

Anyway, there is a pregnant thought from Wheeler is particularly resonant:

“There was perhaps no greater proponent of information theory than another 
unsung paragon of science, John Archibald 
Wheeler. Wheeler was 
part of the Manhattan Project, worked out the "S-Matrix" with Niels Bohr and 
helped Einstein develop a unified theory of physics. In his later years, he 
proclaimed, "Everything is information." Then he went about exploring 
connections between quantum mechanics and information theory….He also coined 
the phrase "it from bit" or that every particle in the universe emanates from 
the information locked inside it. At the Santa Fe Institute in 1989, Wheeler 
announced that everything, from particles to forces to the fabric of spacetime 
itself "… derives its function, its meaning, its very existence entirely … from 
the apparatus-elicited answers to yes-or-no questions, binary choices, 
bits."
 END quote.

Too bad the website itself  has not been designed to honor privacy concerns or 
to  function well on Firefox browser. Makes one wonder if MS/Google did not 
insert the background trackers as a tit for tat … which is kind of ironic, 
given the subject matter.

Re: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[Terry Blanton]

Have you tried the Brave web browser?  Functionally similar to Chrome, even
syncs with it, but blocks everything except content.  See

brave.com

I like the theory.  Makes one wonder how many bits fit into the E=MC^2
equivalence formula.  Personally, I use it to explain my weight gain.  

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:32 AM JonesBeene  wrote:

> *From: *Terry Blanton 
>
>
>
> bigthink.com:
> https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory
>
>
>
> This is a very provocative idea – that information has actual mass…guess
> that is why it is featured on a site called “the big think”…
>
>
>
> The concept also relates to LENR in a back door way – since Holmlid
> suggests that matter can be  completely annihilated or turned into energy.
> Is this the modern version of “book burning”??
>
>
>
> The author of the piece, Philip Perry did not claim exactly  that dark
> matter or the black hole is a repository of information, but that is the
> implication. OTOH another article by Philip suggests that Jesus (yes, that
> Jesus) used Cannabis for some of his miracle cures. This kind of lateral
> thinking made me want to immediately sign up to get the blog until I
> noticed how many trackers it had already tried to install.
>
>
>
> Anyway, there is a pregnant thought from Wheeler is particularly resonant:
>
> “There was perhaps no greater proponent of information theory than another
> unsung paragon of science, John Archibald Wheeler
> . Wheeler was
> part of the Manhattan Project, worked out the "S-Matrix" with Niels Bohr
> and helped Einstein develop a unified theory of physics. In his later
> years, he proclaimed, "Everything is information." Then he went about
> exploring connections between quantum mechanics and information theory….He
> also coined the phrase "it from bit" or that every particle in the universe
> emanates from the information locked inside it. At the Santa Fe Institute
> in 1989, Wheeler announced that everything, from particles to forces to the
> fabric of spacetime itself "… derives its function, its meaning, its very
> existence entirely … from the apparatus-elicited answers to yes-or-no
> questions, binary choices, bits
> ."
> END quote.
>
> Too bad the website itself  has not been designed to honor privacy
> concerns or to  function well on Firefox browser. Makes one wonder if
> MS/Google did not insert the background trackers as a tit for tat … which
> is kind of ironic, given the subject matter.
>
>
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, physicist says

[JonesBeene]

From: Terry Blanton

bigthink.com:
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory 

This is a very provocative idea – that information has actual mass…guess that 
is why it is featured on a site called “the big think”…

The concept also relates to LENR in a back door way – since Holmlid suggests 
that matter can be  completely annihilated or turned into energy. Is this the 
modern version of “book burning”??

The author of the piece, Philip Perry did not claim exactly  that dark matter 
or the black hole is a repository of information, but that is the implication. 
OTOH another article by Philip suggests that Jesus (yes, that Jesus) used 
Cannabis for some of his miracle cures. This kind of lateral thinking made me 
want to immediately sign up to get the blog until I noticed how many trackers 
it had already tried to install.

Anyway, there is a pregnant thought from Wheeler is particularly resonant:
“There was perhaps no greater proponent of information theory than another 
unsung paragon of science, John Archibald Wheeler. Wheeler was part of the 
Manhattan Project, worked out the "S-Matrix" with Niels Bohr and helped 
Einstein develop a unified theory of physics. In his later years, he 
proclaimed, "Everything is information." Then he went about exploring 
connections between quantum mechanics and information theory….He also coined 
the phrase "it from bit" or that every particle in the universe emanates from 
the information locked inside it. At the Santa Fe Institute in 1989, Wheeler 
announced that everything, from particles to forces to the fabric of spacetime 
itself "… derives its function, its meaning, its very existence entirely … from 
the apparatus-elicited answers to yes-or-no questions, binary choices, bits." 
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Too bad the website itself  has not been designed to honor privacy concerns or 
to  function well on Firefox browser. Makes one wonder if MS/Google did not 
insert the background trackers as a tit for tat … which is kind of ironic, 
given the subject matter.