Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-11-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On 31/10/2007 11:04 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: On 29/10/2007 11:06 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Momentum, close relative of kinetic energy, can't be bottled and so can't be sold. The kind of energy that is sold is all potential, not kinetic, because motion

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-31 Thread Harry Veeder
On 29/10/2007 11:06 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: On 28/10/2007 9:15 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: On 28/10/2007 11:41 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Speed is not power. Power is speed times force. Torque is not power. Power is

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-31 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Harry Veeder wrote: On 29/10/2007 11:06 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Momentum, close relative of kinetic energy, can't be bottled and so can't be sold. The kind of energy that is sold is all potential, not kinetic, because motion can't be packaged. Kinetic energy is not a relative of

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-29 Thread OrionWorks
I'd like to approach this from a different angle. It obviously takes a long time to get Newman's flywheel to rev up to around 100 RPM. It's also true that even with a tiny torque force applied, given enough time (and minimal friction to contend with) any heavy flywheel can eventually be made to

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On 28/10/2007 9:15 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: On 28/10/2007 11:41 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Speed is not power. Power is speed times force. Torque is not power. Power is rotational velocity times torque. A simple lever can produce more _force_ than is

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Horrors -- You want numbers! I don't do numbers! ;-) But I'll try. Be warned that I'll probably get this wrong. First of all, saying it's a 1000 pound flywheel doesn't tell us much. The moment of inertia of the flywheel is what matters, and that depends on the shape, not just the mass.

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Harry Veeder wrote: On 28/10/2007 9:15 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: On 28/10/2007 11:41 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Speed is not power. Power is speed times force. Torque is not power. Power is rotational velocity times torque. A simple lever can produce more

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-29 Thread OrionWorks
Stephen, If your initial and impressive stab at calculating the amount of torque generated in the Newman flywheel appears to be tremendous, (and I gather you seriously dispute your conclusions), I would agree with you. And, of course, Newman ain't telling us how much torque is being generated. He

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On 28/10/2007 11:41 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Speed is not power. Power is speed times force. Torque is not power. Power is rotational velocity times torque. A simple lever can produce more _force_ than is applied to it, and a simple chain and gear drive -- such as on my bicycle --

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-28 Thread Jones Beene
Harry did you not mean --- input power --- gross output power out --- net output energy (over time) | | | | | | --

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-28 Thread Harry Veeder
On 28/10/2007 1:19 PM, Jones Beene wrote: Harry did you not mean --- input power --- gross output power out --- net output energy (over time) | | | | | | -- If power equals energy over time I am not sure there

Re: [Vo]:*******SPEED IS POWER. NEW ENERGY MACHINE VIDEO!!!

2007-10-28 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Harry Veeder wrote: On 28/10/2007 11:41 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Speed is not power. Power is speed times force. Torque is not power. Power is rotational velocity times torque. A simple lever can produce more _force_ than is applied to it, and a simple chain and gear drive -- such