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In reply to Craig Haynie's message of Sat, 09 Apr 2011 00:41:56 -0400: Hi, [snip] Not sure what I can do. Should I go knock on the door? :) Craig Yes! Ask when you would be able to buy one. :) [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
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Believe it or not, but I have recently determined the ' Monsters from the ID' are in-fact Aliens, which of course is based on an overall natural instinctive reaction from down-to-earth human-beings who've witnessed first-hand the occupants of Advanced Vehicle/Crafts. The opposite may also be true, because the so-called Aliens (which are presumed to evolved or originate from something other than a human, and/or from another dimension, or even universe,,, but nonetheless are currently up in the space above us, as we live, breath die down on this earth below, that view us humans in the same manner. Now, I know it's difficult, but you have to realize the universe is almost 14 billion yrs old, and in just the last 10 million yrs or so alone of adaptive evolution, our common chimpanzee ancestor branched-off to become modern-day human-beings. In considering this, you have to ask just what adaptive changes might ocurr that led to the highly evolved characteristic of the so-called Aliens?. What exactly will a million, ten milllion, hundred million, and/or a billion of years of adaptive evolution lead to especially considering that this natural world we biologically-dependent restricted Human-Beings are currently surviving and/or thriving on, no longer (for all intents purposes) technically exists? The present mode of being and/or characteristics we typically associate with our modern day genetic make-up may highly-likely be as outdated, obsolete, and/or extinct as the Dinosaur. Now, whatever you do, don't hestitate to ponder the endless possibilities of what it might be like to go from a natural biological-dependent mode or state-of-being, to a whole complete 'other' technological mode or state of being,,, that no longer consists-of and/or contend with things that wear, runout, and/or fail. Now, imagine what you could do if you had the time to create a whole complete different intelligent process, that can enable you to exist via a highly developed state-of-energy, as opposed to only surviving by O2, H2O, Nutrients, Cellular-Reproduction, Flesh, Blood, Organs, Senses (who needs it), etc., etc..? Imagine, how long it would take for the whole-of-society to go from this elementary biologically-dependent state and/or mode of functionality, to a sophisticated and immortal one? While it might first seem like an unlikely possibility, you first have to go back a couple hundred years when we were only using a horse buggy for transportation, and candles to see in the dark,,, and it isn't too difficult to think what advancements could be made, given possible countless millennium. Unfortunately, it looks that in-order to get to heaven, we (not us 'perse, hopefully) will likely have to go thru hell first,,, however, if there is a quicker less-painful way, then, why not? Although there's likely a Gazillion civilizations very early-on and/or similar to our current civilization, thruout the universe), we still individually only get 'one-chance' in all of eternity, and therefore we need to consider doing what may 'NEVER' have been done before in the history of time space and/or star-systems w/ intelligent life. By 'realizing' (not presuming and/or wishing, hoping dreaming) just where human-beings are on the technological ladder of progression, an unbelievable amount of progress could essentially be made in a drastically reduced amount of time. The System that will completely alter how we travel or view space time, and/or destiny (of which I have recently conclusively determined is being utilized by Unbelievably Extraordinary Advanced Civilizations) is essentially a Perfected Independent State of Light Energy/Propulsion Immortal Being. The way I see it is, if you haven't got the time, then, you've got to make it,,, or else it will pass you by, and you'll never know the difference. So, good bye for now, ( 'for now', doesn't stand a chance,,, unless you realize it (right here
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OTOH - If he is a total scam artist, and that is certainly not ruled out - then he has probably lined up one or two especially wealthy investors, whom he will fleece. Maybe he figures his scam is morally right since he will use the money he makes to help the kids with cancer.
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Heck, if nothing else - this makes a provocative story or screenplay, no? Hypothetical Theme: The engineer and the older professor have been lovers for years as they performed research for a new source of energy. All they suffered was heartbreak. Then comes the final tragedy: the professor has contracted a terminal disease. Not wanting his lover to die a broken man, the engineer fabricates a fantastic fairy tale that appears to be a final success to all those years of research. The media beats a path to the door and the professor dies believing in their success. The engineer dies a few years later in prison when his experiment of lye and assorted metals explodes when he flushes it down the toilet in frustration. The End T
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On 2011-04-08 14:03, Terry Blanton wrote: energy. All they suffered was heartbreak. Then comes the final tragedy: the professor has contracted a terminal disease. It may sound like a joke, but Focardi did really contract cancer several years ago. He has recovered from it completely, however. Cheers, S.A.
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:11 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-04-08 14:03, Terry Blanton wrote: energy. All they suffered was heartbreak. Then comes the final tragedy: the professor has contracted a terminal disease. It may sound like a joke, but Focardi did really contract cancer several years ago. He has recovered from it completely, however. Doh! I was unaware. T
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Thanks Jones This story is the best one I ever read since now :) I just hope the final didn't involve other innocent people in the blast of the prison sewer system. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Heck, if nothing else - this makes a provocative story or screenplay, no? Hypothetical Theme: The engineer and the older professor have been lovers for years as they performed research for a new source of energy. All they suffered was heartbreak. Then comes the final tragedy: the professor has contracted a terminal disease. Not wanting his lover to die a broken man, the engineer fabricates a fantastic fairy tale that appears to be a final success to all those years of research. The media beats a path to the door and the professor dies believing in their success. The engineer dies a few years later in prison when his experiment of lye and assorted metals explodes when he flushes it down the toilet in frustration. The End T
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Heck, if nothing else - this makes a provocative story or screenplay, no? Hypothetical Theme: The engineer and the older professor have been lovers for years as they performed research for a new source of energy. All they suffered was heartbreak. Then comes the final tragedy: the professor has contracted a terminal disease. Not wanting his lover to die a broken man, the engineer fabricates a fantastic fairy tale that appears to be a final success to all those years of research. The media beats a path to the door and the professor dies believing in their success. The engineer dies a few years later in prison when his experiment of lye and assorted metals explodes when he flushes it down the toilet in frustration. The End Well, while I be dissin' . . . Doesn't Prof. Levi remind you of Exeter? T attachment: levi.JPG
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Heck, if nothing else - this makes a provocative story or screenplay, no? Hypothetical Theme: The engineer and the older professor have been lovers for years as they performed research for a new source of energy. All they suffered was heartbreak. Then comes the final tragedy: the professor has contracted a terminal disease. Not wanting his lover to die a broken man, the engineer fabricates a fantastic fairy tale that appears to be a final success to all those years of research. The media beats a path to the door and the professor dies believing in their success. The engineer dies a few years later in prison when his experiment of lye and assorted metals explodes when he flushes it down the toilet in frustration. The End Well, while I be dissin' . . . Doesn't Prof. Levi remind you of Exeter? T attachment: levi.JPG
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Regarding Terry recent breakthrough... OMG! The resemblance is uncanny! This Island Earth was a great SF flick for its time. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047577/ http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.funwithfilms.com/images/this-island-earth1.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.funwithfilms.com/this-island-earth/h=446w=650sz=62tbnid=TkxuNR1pKCUUNM:tbnh=94tbnw=137prev=/search%3Fq%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Duzoom=1q=this+island+earthhl=enusg=__wjrl8N_tgoIuja1mZ6ZQk4TgHQg=sa=Xei=GRmfTa-LNIa-tgeepuWWAwved=0CFkQ9QEwBQ http://tinyurl.com/5wf98dg BTW, those high forehead aliens reminded me of Adamski's Venusian brothers. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Well, while I be dissin' . . . Doesn't Prof. Levi remind you of Exeter? Probably coincidental, but Rossi's New Hampshire facility is walking distance from Exeter ... which does not mean that I been spyin'.
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Probably coincidental, but Rossi's New Hampshire facility is walking distance from Exeter ... which does not mean that I been spyin'. Okay, this is getting creepy. When I was 12, I read John Fuller's 1966 book _Incident at Exeter_ which actually got me hooked on UFOs. Here's a summary: http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case426.htm T
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Yup. This is creepy! This must be exactly the time frame when Rossi's and his assistant came back from the future :) Next stop Bandera. Notice the Italian-American names. Isn't that conclusive! Jones Note to non-regular readers of vortex: Every once in a while, a few of the regular posters here must indulge in a public showing of logical absurdity - in order to demonstrate conclusively that the information which we (too often) present as fact-based does in fact derive from an both an over-active imagination and from secret messages received from them ... -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton Subject: Are you falling for it? Probably coincidental, but Rossi's New Hampshire facility is walking distance from Exeter ... which does not mean that I been spyin'. Okay, this is getting creepy. When I was 12, I read John Fuller's 1966 book _Incident at Exeter_ which actually got me hooked on UFOs. Here's a summary: http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case426.htm T
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Probably coincidental, but Rossi's New Hampshire facility is walking distance from Exeter ... which does not mean that I been spyin'. Actually, no. It's in Bedford, which is within walking distance of me, but Exeter is about 45 minutes by car. Craig Haynie Manchester, NH
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-Original Message- From: Craig Haynie Probably coincidental, but Rossi's New Hampshire facility is walking distance from Exeter ... which does not mean that I been spyin'. Actually, no. It's in Bedford, which is within walking distance of me, but Exeter is about 45 minutes by car. Craig Haynie Manchester, NH ... should have said 'hiking' distance... so Craig, have you been snooping around for a bit of inside information on the greatest invention since fire ? Come to think of it, has anyone located the mysterious George Kelly (or is he one of Rossi's secret friends) ... better yet, one of them ...
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Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Note to non-regular readers of vortex: Every once in a while, a few of the regular posters here must indulge in a public showing of logical absurdity - in order to demonstrate conclusively that the information which we (too often) present as fact-based does in fact derive from an both an over-active imagination and from secret messages received from them ... HEY! Who authorized you to talk about them . . . I mean about this subject?!? This incident *will* -- rpt will -- be noted in your semi-annual status report. Headquarters will be informed. - Jed
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Come to think of it, has anyone located the mysterious George Kelly (or is he one of Rossi's secret friends) ... better yet, one of them ... George Kelly, a.k.a. Indrid Cold. T
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yes, but I am well equipped for this fall... (see attachment) Harryattachment: wingsuit.jpg
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Dennis wrote: having seen some of these things played out. it could be that he doesn't know how it works. It may be very much material dependent and he has but a little of the good stuff left and doesn't know why batch 3 and 4 (pick some numbers) work and the new ones don't. Now he is trying to make smaller ones to conserve the material and save face. . . . I know that with CETI, they thought they had it, and then when the good batches ran out. That worries me. But Rossi seems confident that he can produce ~100 L which is approximately how much they need for the 1 MW reactor. I do not get the sense he is trying to conserve material. He has several gadgets under construction and in various places, some that he has talked about and others I have heard rumors of. He had no problem giving Essen and Kullander samples of new and used Ni material. The used material was from one of the reactors that reportedly ran for months. Those samples were probably small, but the fact that he had any from a device that ran for an extended time is good, and the fact that he willingly parted with the samples is better. CETI did not do that, did they? Not as far as I know. Ed Storms predicted that batch-to-batch variations in the catalyst will be their biggest headache. That seems likely to me. I suppose that setting up a factory to manufacture the catalyst in large amounts will be the biggest single expense for Defkalion. I assume they will want to manufacture it in-house. I doubt they would want to outsource a critical material for a factory intended to produce 300,000 units a year. (Eventually, not the first day!) If I were in charge of the factory I would want that production right there, where tight control over production and inventory can be maintained. I suppose they might farm out material for the first few thousand units. - Jed
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Some day I must watch this movie. How does it compare to Forbidden Planet? Harry - Original Message From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 10:19:44 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Are you falling for it? Regarding Terry recent breakthrough... OMG! The resemblance is uncanny! This Island Earth was a great SF flick for its time. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047577/ http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.funwithfilms.com/images/this-island-earth1.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.funwithfilms.com/this-island-earth/h=446w=650sz=62tbnid=TkxuNR1pKCUUNM:tbnh=94tbnw=137prev=/search%3Fq%3Dthis%2Bisland%2Bearth%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Duzoom=1q=this+island+earthhl=enusg=__wjrl8N_tgoIuja1mZ6ZQk4TgHQg=sa=Xei=GRmfTa-LNIa-tgeepuWWAwved=0CFkQ9QEwBQ Q http://tinyurl.com/5wf98dg BTW, those high forehead aliens reminded me of Adamski's Venusian brothers. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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From Harry: How does it [This Island Earth] compare to Forbidden Planet? Similar caliber. However, FP is a notch better, IMHO! Monsters from the ID! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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I still have a couple of kathermine tubes lying around: http://www.shipbrook.com/jeff/interocitor/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interocitor Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hlvee...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Are you falling for it? Some day I must watch this movie. How does it compare to Forbidden Planet? Harry
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... should have said 'hiking' distance... so Craig, have you been snooping around for a bit of inside information on the greatest invention since fire ? Not sure what I can do. Should I go knock on the door? :) Craig On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 09:06 -0700, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Craig Haynie Probably coincidental, but Rossi's New Hampshire facility is walking distance from Exeter ... which does not mean that I been spyin'. Actually, no. It's in Bedford, which is within walking distance of me, but Exeter is about 45 minutes by car. Craig Haynie Manchester, NH ... should have said 'hiking' distance... so Craig, have you been snooping around for a bit of inside information on the greatest invention since fire ? Come to think of it, has anyone located the mysterious George Kelly (or is he one of Rossi's secret friends) ... better yet, one of them ...
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Here is Rossi's next stunt :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W46UMzFEU24 As you know he is a miracle worker, except for one little detail ... He DECREASES the volume of a miracle reactor by a factor of 20 and the heat only goes down by a factor of 3. And he is just noticing this! LOL. More Rossi BS - let's face it, this guy is deceptive, and could be delusional. He is trying to hide something by this latest publicity stunt with the Swedes. It is pure 'misdirection'. There is no way to believe anything he says. But he is clever to handle it this way, since many who see this stunt will applaud him for what may seem to be a more open kind of show-and-tell. But the intent can only be to mislead other researchers who are scrambling to replicate the results. No way do you have a reverse economy-of-scale at this magnitude, and then do not follow up by going even smaller. No way do you do a public demo of a larger unit that is seven times less robust. Rossi is most likely showing off past things that did NOT work well, or at all - in order to protect the larger device that does work well. The large unit is the only one tested in public (semi-public) - and possibly it is the minimum size factor that works at all. But Rossi would like to encourage the hundred or so replication attempts which are in progress now - to go with the smaller size, instead since he knows that there is a critical mass threshold, and they are doomed from the start, if they go with the 50 cc. Jones -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Looking at the pictures, it seems to be fairly simple mechanically. The chamber is 50cc and not 1 liter as we were made to believe. Two different devices. This 4 kW version has a 50 cc chamber. The original 10 kW version had a 1 L chamber.
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So what is his endgame? T
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Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: As you know he is a miracle worker, except for one little detail ... He DECREASES the volume of a miracle reactor by a factor of 20 and the heat only goes down by a factor of 3. And he is just noticing this! LOL. That is incorrect. The larger reactor peaked at 130 kW for a while according to Levi. The size has been reduced by a factor of 20 and the heat by a factor of 33. Granted, the small reactor might be able to run at higher power. But you are missing the point. The most important factor by far is not the volume of material, but the volume of what Storms calls nuclear active material (NAE). Most of the powder is inert and contributes nothing. If 5% of a 50 ml sample is active, it will produce far more heat than 0.01% of a 1 L sample. Evidently, in the original Mills/Thermacore experiments with 40 lb of nickel producing 50 W, only a tiny fraction of the material contributed to the reaction and the rest might as well have been on the Moon for all the good it did. For all anyone knows, the batch of powder in the small device may be more potent than the big device. Or less potent. It may not have been pushed to the limits. - Jed
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-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton So what is his endgame? Well, if he really has made a great discovery, as we all hope - then the latest stunt with the small ghetto-quality versions is probably to protect the secret for as long as possible by misdirection. That would be by showing old early efforts which do not work well, for the purpose of keeping replicators from trying a full-liter volume reactor, which would be the critical-mass (of something) threshold. We have only his word these work at all. IOW - he does not understand what is going on - and thinks that either it might be covered by Randell Mills IP, or that someone else might discover the precise M.O. and deprive him of full worth. That is one of several scenarios which could be the motivation for all of the half-truths, assuming that the large device does function as in the demo. He may have realized now that he gave away too much a few months back. Geeze, he may even read vortex. OTOH - If he is a total scam artist, and that is certainly not ruled out - then he has probably lined up one or two especially wealthy investors, whom he will fleece. For instance, did you see the Spike Lee film 'Inside Man'? ... where there was a bank robbery, or was there? Nothing appears missing. The investigation is dropped as there is no apparent theft. And the single rich victim (the mark) cannot complain, because he was once the worst kind of villain and has to protect that secret. Rossi, who has already been convicted of tax evasion and has Swiss connections, may have located such a mark, one with lots of untaxed wealth, and who is seeking legitimacy in a real business venture. Geeze it could be Berlusconi for all we know. Heck, if nothing else - this makes a provocative story or screenplay, no? Having spent a few months of time on trying to understand Rossi and E-Cat, hundreds of hours really - believing it will surely save the world from the evils of the BigOil/OPEC alliance, just like Mills failed to do a decade ago - maybe I can salvage something out of all the effort, and should start that screenplay soon ... just in case. Jones
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Just a personal view... having seen some of these things played out. it could be that he doesn't know how it works. It may be very much material dependent and he has but a little of the good stuff left and doesn't know why batch 3 and 4 (pick some numbers) work and the new ones don't. Now he is trying to make smaller ones to conserve the material and save face. It is interesting to notice that the devices in the Swedish report showed a lot of Cu oxide black but the other fittings where new and shinny. Perhaps they were old ones or some taken out of service. Anyway, it is hard to see how you could get that much oxide on them if water was flowing in the pipes. Notice the fittings on the Cu parts were not altered enough to knock of the oxide but the mounts and connectors were all new. I know that with CETI, they thought they had it, and then when the good batches ran out. I just know that active materials may be hard to acquire in multiple batches. There is just something at the atomic level that is required and we just don't know how to make it consistantly. Dennis -- From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Are you falling for it? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton So what is his endgame? Well, if he really has made a great discovery, as we all hope - then the latest stunt with the small ghetto-quality versions is probably to protect the secret for as long as possible by misdirection. That would be by showing old early efforts which do not work well, for the purpose of keeping replicators from trying a full-liter volume reactor, which would be the critical-mass (of something) threshold. We have only his word these work at all. IOW - he does not understand what is going on - and thinks that either it might be covered by Randell Mills IP, or that someone else might discover the precise M.O. and deprive him of full worth. That is one of several scenarios which could be the motivation for all of the half-truths, assuming that the large device does function as in the demo. He may have realized now that he gave away too much a few months back. Geeze, he may even read vortex. OTOH - If he is a total scam artist, and that is certainly not ruled out - then he has probably lined up one or two especially wealthy investors, whom he will fleece. For instance, did you see the Spike Lee film 'Inside Man'? ... where there was a bank robbery, or was there? Nothing appears missing. The investigation is dropped as there is no apparent theft. And the single rich victim (the mark) cannot complain, because he was once the worst kind of villain and has to protect that secret. Rossi, who has already been convicted of tax evasion and has Swiss connections, may have located such a mark, one with lots of untaxed wealth, and who is seeking legitimacy in a real business venture. Geeze it could be Berlusconi for all we know. Heck, if nothing else - this makes a provocative story or screenplay, no? Having spent a few months of time on trying to understand Rossi and E-Cat, hundreds of hours really - believing it will surely save the world from the evils of the BigOil/OPEC alliance, just like Mills failed to do a decade ago - maybe I can salvage something out of all the effort, and should start that screenplay soon ... just in case. Jones
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Good points - especially the CETI analogy. That could have been the original case of getting lucky, and then losing the magic... -Original Message- From: Dennis Just a personal view... having seen some of these things played out. it could be that he doesn't know how it works. It may be very much material dependent and he has but a little of the good stuff left and doesn't know why batch 3 and 4 (pick some numbers) work and the new ones don't. Now he is trying to make smaller ones to conserve the material and save face. It is interesting to notice that the devices in the Swedish report showed a lot of Cu oxide black but the other fittings where new and shinny. Perhaps they were old ones or some taken out of service. Anyway, it is hard to see how you could get that much oxide on them if water was flowing in the pipes. Notice the fittings on the Cu parts were not altered enough to knock of the oxide but the mounts and connectors were all new. I know that with CETI, they thought they had it, and then when the good batches ran out. I just know that active materials may be hard to acquire in multiple batches. There is just something at the atomic level that is required and we just don't know how to make it consistently. Dennis -- From: Jones Beene -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton So what is his endgame? Well, if he really has made a great discovery, as we all hope - then the latest stunt with the small ghetto-quality versions is probably to protect the secret for as long as possible by misdirection. That would be by showing old early efforts which do not work well, for the purpose of keeping replicators from trying a full-liter volume reactor, which would be the critical-mass (of something) threshold. We have only his word these work at all. IOW - he does not understand what is going on - and thinks that either it might be covered by Randell Mills IP, or that someone else might discover the precise M.O. and deprive him of full worth. That is one of several scenarios which could be the motivation for all of the half-truths, assuming that the large device does function as in the demo. He may have realized now that he gave away too much a few months back. Geeze, he may even read vortex. OTOH - If he is a total scam artist, and that is certainly not ruled out - then he has probably lined up one or two especially wealthy investors, whom he will fleece. For instance, did you see the Spike Lee film 'Inside Man'? ... where there was a bank robbery, or was there? Nothing appears missing. The investigation is dropped as there is no apparent theft. And the single rich victim (the mark) cannot complain, because he was once the worst kind of villain and has to protect that secret. Rossi, who has already been convicted of tax evasion and has Swiss connections, may have located such a mark, one with lots of untaxed wealth, and who is seeking legitimacy in a real business venture. Geeze it could be Berlusconi for all we know. Heck, if nothing else - this makes a provocative story or screenplay, no? Having spent a few months of time on trying to understand Rossi and E-Cat, hundreds of hours really - believing it will surely save the world from the evils of the Big Oil/OPEC alliance, just like Mills failed to do a decade ago - maybe I can salvage something out of all the effort, and should start that screenplay soon ... just in case. Jones
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I guess I am falling for it because of my belief that this is a ZPE/ MAHG type of unlimited reaction where the control loop is everything. I think the hydroxides and energy produced in the BLP reaction were all from an unwanted runaway reaction that destroyed the geometry and allowed the hydrogen to react with other elements beside itself. I think the hydrogen can be forever disassociated and reform inside the different suppression zones created by the nano powder or pores of the skeletal cat. I think his control loop simply became easier to maintain with one resistance heater and cooling loop such that he can risk letting it run longer in run away than a larger unit. More duty factor on the PWM heater, more cooling flow to pull it back out of runaway and less chance for hot spots between multiple heaters. Regards Fran
