[Vo]:Brain scanning headsets!Sigh.

[leaking pen]

So, i downloaded this companies smaller developer kit a while ago, and
was on their mailing list. They just finally released the big kahuna
kit with headsets.

If i had the money for investment, id be getting the big license, as
i've an even dozen things i can do with those headsets. Sigh. Perhaps
the better funding would be interested though.  For those unaware,
this is a company similar to the one that makes the Force trainer
game that just hit the market, but more complex headsets.  Basically
wearable eeg's, with software to convert thought into numbers, for
purpose of motion, controlling devices, ect.


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Re: [Vo]:Brain scanning headsets!Sigh.

[Stephen A. Lawrence]

leaking pen wrote:
 So, i downloaded this companies smaller developer kit a while ago, and
 was on their mailing list. They just finally released the big kahuna
 kit with headsets.
 
 If i had the money for investment, id be getting the big license, as
 i've an even dozen things i can do with those headsets. Sigh. Perhaps
 the better funding would be interested though.  For those unaware,
 this is a company similar to the one that makes the Force trainer
 game that just hit the market, but more complex headsets.  Basically
 wearable eeg's, with software to convert thought into numbers, for
 purpose of motion, controlling devices, ect.

For real??  That's incredible.

Have you used the headset successfully for anything?  How's it go --
what do you actually need to do to manipulate stuff?

And does it *really* pick up on brain waves, or is it actually picking
up signals to the muscles just under the skin of the head?  (The latter
seems easier to implement and a *lot* easier to control, but might be
considered far less stunning as an achievement.)  Like, does it know
when you're sleeping and know when you're awake, like Santa Clause, or
can it only really tell stuff like whether you're frowning or smiling?

From their web pages it's not entirely clear just how deep the brain
wave sensing is that they're using, and the array of sensors *looks*
like it could just as well be picking up muscle action by facial and
neck muscles.

Re: [Vo]:Brain scanning headsets!Sigh.

[leaking pen]

It actually picks up brain waves, from my understanding.  I know a bit
more about the other company that makes similar.  They have a headset
with a single sensor, and it picks up concentration states and
meditation states, basically.  This is supposed to be the same thing,
but with more pickups.

they DO also have facial motion pickup, but not JUST facial motion pickup.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-9874515-52.html  is a good article.

ive unfortunately not had a chance to use a headset, just the basic
software.  Can't afford the headset myself.  sigh.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Stephen A. Lawrencesa...@pobox.com wrote:


 leaking pen wrote:
 So, i downloaded this companies smaller developer kit a while ago, and
 was on their mailing list. They just finally released the big kahuna
 kit with headsets.

 If i had the money for investment, id be getting the big license, as
 i've an even dozen things i can do with those headsets. Sigh. Perhaps
 the better funding would be interested though.  For those unaware,
 this is a company similar to the one that makes the Force trainer
 game that just hit the market, but more complex headsets.  Basically
 wearable eeg's, with software to convert thought into numbers, for
 purpose of motion, controlling devices, ect.

 For real??  That's incredible.

 Have you used the headset successfully for anything?  How's it go --
 what do you actually need to do to manipulate stuff?

 And does it *really* pick up on brain waves, or is it actually picking
 up signals to the muscles just under the skin of the head?  (The latter
 seems easier to implement and a *lot* easier to control, but might be
 considered far less stunning as an achievement.)  Like, does it know
 when you're sleeping and know when you're awake, like Santa Clause, or
 can it only really tell stuff like whether you're frowning or smiling?

 From their web pages it's not entirely clear just how deep the brain
 wave sensing is that they're using, and the array of sensors *looks*
 like it could just as well be picking up muscle action by facial and
 neck muscles.

RE: [Vo]:Brain scanning headsets!Sigh.

[Rick Monteverde]

Mashing that with Natal and an interface to X10 might be kinda fun.   

Leaking pen wrote:

 It actually picks up brain waves, from my understanding. 

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