[Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread Shaun Taylor
Who needs Rossi and his fake Ecat when a commercially available Hitachi heat pump, the Eco Cute, achieved a COP of up to 8 way back in 2008. http://www.mayekawausa.com/brochures/pdf/wEcoCute_brochure.pdf Shaun

Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread Chemical Engineer
Shaun, I use a heat pump with COP of 6 in Georgia to heat my pool. It still needs a heat source such as relatively warm air or geothermal as a primary heat source. On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.comwrote: Who needs Rossi and his fake Ecat when a

Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Shaun, I use a heat pump with COP of 6 in Georgia to heat my pool.  It still needs a heat source such as relatively warm air or geothermal as a primary heat source. Where in Georgia? T, EE (in Atlanta)

Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread Shaun Taylor
On 23/01/2012 12:26 PM, Chemical Engineer wrote: Shaun, I use a heat pump with COP of 6 in Georgia to heat my pool. It still needs a heat source such as relatively warm air or geothermal as a primary heat source. Of course. We do not create energy from nothing. We transform it from one form

Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread Chemical Engineer
Heat pumps are good for relatively low grade heat production for heating homes and pools. They do not generate hot enough temperatures for efficient generation of electricity. You might be a able to run a small organic rankine cycle turbine with a refrigerant as the working but the efficiency

Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread David Roberson
. No free lunches in this business. Dave -Original Message- From: Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2012 9:53 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8 On 23/01/2012 12:26 PM, Chemical Engineer wrote: Shaun, I use

Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread Shaun Taylor
On 23/01/2012 2:43 PM, David Roberson wrote: I think you are suggesting a way to defeat the laws of thermodynamics with your heat pump that has a COP of 10. This is a lot like having an electric car with a generator that recharges the battery. My bet is that the heat output is at too low of a

Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread Patrick Ellul
You should enable Google Search History On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.comwrote: On 23/01/2012 2:43 PM, David Roberson wrote: I think you are suggesting a way to defeat the laws of thermodynamics with your heat pump that has a COP of 10. This is a lot like

Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP of 8

2012-01-22 Thread David Roberson
. We would all like for this to be true, but a system of this type would be a perpetual motion machine. Dave -Original Message- From: Shaun Taylor shauntaylor...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Jan 22, 2012 11:25 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Commercial heat pump with COP