Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
The Proton Radius Problem and the Muon. http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/08/researchers-orbit-a-muon-around-an-atom-confirm-physics-is-broken/ Very interesting article on Ars Technica with possible far-reaching implications for LENR researchers. These discrepancies from standard model predi

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Axil Axil
A force carrier that is do light should have a very long range, This I do not understand. I can;t help that this protophobic gauge boson is really a coherent quasiparticle of a collection or bundle of photons or the like that has a short lifetime. Why can it explain the muon anomalous magnetic mo

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread CB Sites
>From what I read of the paper, it's a very short range force; perhaps 12fm but the signal seen was at 6.8 sigma, The paper is located here: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.07411v1.pdf Interesting read. Where this becomes relevant is in the electron screening that metals provide in Pd(D). Maybe Ni(H

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Jones Beene
In answer to an offline question about testing or falsifying this 5th force hypothesis without the expense of heavy isotopes of palladium – one option comes to mind just now. Remember the “bubble fusion” experiment of Rusi Taleyarkhan? He was vindicated in his use of the very heavy element Cali

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Jones Beene
Another point to toss into the mix, CB --- the strong force operates at two distinct geometries, which could mean that it is essentially bifurcated and overlapping to begin with, such that one of the two can become the 5th force. On a size-scale of a few femtometers, the strong force binds p

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Daniel Rocha
You people should care. This is more spectacular than cold fusion. There are a lot of odd behavior to be expected at non linear physics. This is not the case.

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Che
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Bob Cook wrote: > How does your model handle conservation of angular momentum---the poor > neglected parameter in many models focusing on energy conservation? > Angular momentum may be poor and neglected -- but it remains a fundamental property of energy-matter.

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread CB Sites
Jones, I really like your idea. I instantly thought the same thing when I read the article about the 5 force. It certainly is better than some published theories I've read on LENR. On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > *From:* Bob Cook > > > > How do you explain the transfer

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook How do you explain the transfer of the excess energy to the metal lattice as heat ? Hagelstein's theory for phonon transfer keeps improving over the years. In his theory, the less energy which needs to be shed in the first few downshifts, the more likely the modality bec

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Bob Cook
conservation of angular momentum---the poor neglected parameter in many models focusing on energy conservation? Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:52 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed To summarize a

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Jones Beene
To summarize a formative hypothesis of the modality of a 5th force boson (labeled "neuglu") as the necessary component of Pd-D fusion, here is a summary . The neuglu boson would be attracted to down quarks and equally repelled by up quarks, so that it will have net binding force for neutrons but r

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Daniel Rocha
This is not a confirmation. Wait for more independent tests. There might be an error in the set up.

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Jones Beene
Another possibility. to clarify the possible relevance of neuglu in the LENR system, for those who believe that real 4He is found in the ash is that helium derives from a two-step process. The reaction does not produce gamma radiation since the mass-deficit has actually been used up in the process

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I think Arnold Gulko also discusses the binding force of 2 neutrons in U-238--see the current issue of infinite energy. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Russ George
tidbit! By the way there is some curious isotopic data confirming the utility of mass 110. From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed Yesterday, it was announced than another group had

[Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

2016-08-16 Thread Jones Beene
Yesterday, it was announced than another group had tentatively confirmed the existence of a so-called fifth (or sixth) force. https://news.uci.edu/research/uci-physicists-confirm-possible-discovery-of-f ifth-force-of-nature/ When we discussed this discovery back in May on Vortex - following the