Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-19 Thread Colin Hercus
Hi Horace, I find your posts quite interesting and you seem to have a rational rather than emotional approach which makes for good reading. I just read your reply to Dave and as it seemed to make the ECat (and my kettle) impossible I thought I'd double check some of your calculations and I think

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 18, 2011, at 4:25 PM, David Roberson wrote: Hi Horace, Thank you for the kind welcome into vortex. I suspect that my oversized attachment tunneled through the barrier; maybe using the same path as Rossi's device. It must have a long de Broglie wavelength. My guess is the mass

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 18, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Colin Hercus wrote: Hi Horace, I find your posts quite interesting and you seem to have a rational rather than emotional approach which makes for good reading. I just read your reply to Dave and as it seemed to make the ECat (and my kettle) impossible I

[Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Rossi claims here, the FAT CAT has a surface of 5000 square cm and the surface heated up to 66-80 degrees in the october demonstration: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=1#comment-93550 There was only 1 reactor active (of three) and the full 20 kW where not reached. Now

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Focus Italia has now english translation in their video, so it is rewarding to watch it again. http://www.focus.it/scienza/e-cat-l-energy-catalizer-di-andrea-rossi-il-video-del-test-del-6-ottobre-2011-975_C7.aspx The interviews are interesting. Lewan thinks the reaction is triggered, when the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread Bruno Santos
Rossi is always saying that he needs the electric power to stabilize the reaction. Maybe it stars at 60 degrees, but needs to be hotter, or needs to be heated for a long time, to stabilize. Whatever he means by stabilize. 2011/10/18 Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de What I still dont

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread Peter Heckert
They could have two cold water inputs: One feeds into an internal heat exchanger and then feeds the preheated water into the reactor, and the other feeds the cold water directly into the reactor. Then the electric energy needs should be strongly reduced but cooling down the reactor is still

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread David Roberson
Rossi has stated that the energy released by the LENR reaction is in the form of moderate energy gamma rays(X-Rays?) These rays are converted into heat within the lead shielding and coolant. If this is true, heat to activate the core could be made to exit into the coolant to slow down the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Yes, this might be true. Of course, if they use an internal heat exchanger this would not change the energy bilance. But, in any case the water is pre-heated when they preheat the core. If they would use and internal heat exchanger, then cheap E-Cat energy would be used to preheat the water

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 18, 2011, at 10:36 AM, David Roberson wrote: Rossi has stated that the energy released by the LENR reaction is in the form of moderate energy gamma rays(X-Rays?) These rays are converted into heat within the lead shielding and coolant. If this is true, heat to activate the core

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread Rich Murray
Hatchet Heffner hacks hence... On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: On Oct 18, 2011, at 10:36 AM, David Roberson wrote: Rossi has stated that the energy released by the LENR reaction is in the form of moderate energy gamma rays(X-Rays?)  These rays

Re: [Vo]:Rossi 1 MW plant - is there a cooling system?

2011-10-18 Thread David Roberson
Hi Horace, Thank you for the kind welcome into vortex. I suspect that my oversized attachment tunneled through the barrier; maybe using the same path as Rossi's device. You have written an interesting description of the old ECAT version and I plan to review it thoroughly as time allows. I