Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-12 Thread Stephen Cooke
Thanks Eric for this information. Sent from my iPad > On 12 mei 2016, at 03:46, Eric Walker wrote: > > With regard to excited electrons in non-s-shell orbitals, keep in mind the > precession of the orbital around the atomic center. I presume it will cause a > p-shell orbital to assume the sha

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Walker
With regard to excited electrons in non-s-shell orbitals, keep in mind the precession of the orbital around the atomic center. I presume it will cause a p-shell orbital to assume the shape of a torus. It's like a quickly spinning propellor -- imagine trying to get such a propellor to mesh with ano

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Wed, 11 May 2016 12:05:43 -0600: Hi, [snip] >Stephen, My understanding is that Rydberg hydrogen is highly excited >hydrogen - it is just below an energy that the hydrogen would be ionized. >In fact, small energy inputs to hydrogen in a Rydberg state will ioniz

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Bob Higgins
I am pretty sure almost any interaction with even an optical photon would destroy RM. It is so near to ionization anyway. Not sure what you are talking about for photos of spins and orbits of hydrides. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > http://phys.org/news/2016-05-ultra-fa

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
http://phys.org/news/2016-05-ultra-fast-x-ray-lasers-illuminate-elusive.html With high speed x-ray and infrared lasers, it is now possible to take a picture of the spins and electron orbits of these hydrides. R Mills and Holmlid should get their butts over to this lab and actually see what they i

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Bob Higgins
In RM of hydrogen, I there is only one electron, and it is in the orbital for that high energy state. Maybe it is considered a Rydberg orbital, where the S orbital would be lower (ground) energy and spherical. I don't know much about RM with other atoms, but I think it is just an outer electron i

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Stephen Cooke
I am quite curious if it is the switch from a P orbital to and S orbital or visa versa is what causes it to switch to from H(1) to H(0). Perhaps the electrons still remain in an excited state in the other orbital. > On 11 mei 2016, at 21:03, Stephen Cooke wrote: > > Thanks Bob, > > That it h

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Stephen Cooke
Thanks Bob, That it helps a lot I must admit I have a lot to learn about Rydberg matter. Would these highly excited and Bohr atom like elliptical orbitals still correspond to some kind of quantum mechanical orbital? Perhaps a highly excited S orbital or something? Even highly excited P, D, F an

Re: [Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Bob Higgins
Stephen, My understanding is that Rydberg hydrogen is highly excited hydrogen - it is just below an energy that the hydrogen would be ionized. In fact, small energy inputs to hydrogen in a Rydberg state will ionize it. As I understand the orbitals for Rydberg state hydrogen they are huge diameter

[Vo]:Rydberg Matter and electron orbitals

2016-05-11 Thread Stephen Cooke
Has anyone looked at RM from the point of view of quantum mechanical electron orbitals? If so could you help me understand some crazy thoughts and questions I have about it ? I understand Rydberg hydrogen matter typically forms from excited hydrogen atoms in some way. Most literature seems to