Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: First, let me say, despite the casual, inaccurate, and one data point nature of the method shown, it is far better than any calorimetry applied in Rossi public demos. I agree it is better for steam. It is the only reasonable way to measure a

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/9/26 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: I suggested that they combine this method with other methods because this only produces one data point per test. It only works when power is stable. So you need another method to be sure that it is stable. We need to hope that Brian Josephson

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, stirring is the problem. You need to stir vigorously with a stick or something like a Dremel tool with a paint mixer attached. (Like a giant eggbeater.) That is untrue, it is not a problem. It really does not need much efforts to stir

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Horace Heffner
It is nice to see our views so closely aligned. My comments are mainly additive. On Sep 26, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: First, let me say, despite the casual, inaccurate, and one data point nature of the method shown, it is far

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: It is nice to see our views so closely aligned. They are indeed. I think running the steam and water through a condensing heat exchanger works very well, provided *all* the flow and temperature variables are recorded very frequently - more

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Jouni Valkonen
2011/9/26 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, stirring is the problem. You need to stir vigorously with a stick or something like a Dremel tool with a paint mixer attached. (Like a giant eggbeater.) That is untrue, it is not a

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: It is nice to see our views so closely aligned. They are indeed. I think running the steam and water through a condensing heat exchanger works very well, provided *all* the flow and temperature

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Horace Heffner
Some corrected thoughts. For the secondary circuit only one flow meter is needed, and two thermometers. For the primary circuit, input and output flow meters should be used, and two thermometers. It is important not to assume the pump outputs at a constant rate against all pressures into

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-26 Thread Horace Heffner
I wrote: The nice thing about this approach for the 1 MW E-cat is all that is needed for cooling is a 5 gal/min pump, some big hose, and a lake or river. That should have said: The nice thing about this approach for the 1 MW E-cat is all that is needed for cooling is a 200 gal/min pump,

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
Attached is the scale reading at 0:33 in the Mario video: http://youtu.be/OHvnpYgg_rw This reading corresponds to the initial 10 kg weight. Note the 5 major divisions. The question then is whether the line at 6 o'clock is the zero line. inline: Mario0_33bucket.jpg Best regards, Horace

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
Attached is the scale reading at 2:44 in the Mario video: http://youtu.be/OHvnpYgg_rw This reading corresponds to the final weight. Note the 6 major divisions. 12 minor divisions. The question then is whether the line at 6 o'clock is the zero line. Best regards, Horace Heffner

Re: [Vo]:Steam Sparge

2011-09-25 Thread Horace Heffner
Attached is a jpeg, Krivit9_53.jpg, from 9.53 in the Krivit video. showing Rossi's wrist and the steam pipe. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ inline: Krivit9_53.jpg