Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-28 Thread Chuck Sites
Jed, You probably remember Tom Droege the Electrical Engineer from Fermi lab. He had a live P&F replication running for few months and would post his latest measurements in Usenet's sci.physics.fusion group. I think he did eventually publish a conference paper on coloremetry, but his eventua

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
We should consider all possible alternate explanations. In keeping with long-standing tradition, then, we should specifically recognize alternative (c), commonly expressed as "Goddidit." "Space aliens" is in this class of explanation. I'm pretending to understand Guenter's comment, but Ididnt.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-27 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Abd Ul, Von: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax Maybe it's space aliens. I'm kinda liking that explanation. I can move it around and explain anything with it. Are they *friendly* space aliens? I'd like to think so. Now You're getting funny. Kinda sorta Heinz von Foerster

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:06 PM 9/26/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: See, almost immediately, after the announcement, a huge number of groups started to attempt replication. People often say this, but I do not see much evidence for it. As

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > See, almost immediately, after the announcement, a huge number of groups > started to attempt replication. People often say this, but I do not see much evidence for it. As far as I know, during the first year roughly 150 to 200 groups attempted to replicate. After

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:48 PM 9/25/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: None of what has been written recently in this thread addresses calorimetry or any evidence of nuclear reactions, I want to make that clear

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-26 Thread James Bowery
of P&F was defective, then he can > be forgiven. I would expect an apology to be issued by a dedicated > scientist if he realizes that his work has harmed the world. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Bowery > To: vortex-l > Sent: Wed,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: How could Lewis's critique be taken seriously when he didn't even have the > calorimeter design actually used by P&F? > Here is a paper I wrote about Lewis this August. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJhownaturer.pdf - Jed

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-26 Thread David Roberson
s Bowery To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Sep 26, 2012 11:56 am Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Chuck Sites wrote: I remember that hit piece in Science from Lewis very well. It was disturbing and really

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-26 Thread James Bowery
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Chuck Sites wrote: > I remember that hit piece in Science from Lewis very well. It was > disturbing and really put the whole of Cold Fusion into doubt. Nathan > Lewis, published a really good analysis on calorimetry of electrolysis and > the physics thermal sy

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-25 Thread Chuck Sites
Hi Lomax, First, I've enjoyed reading your posts as a lurker; I remember that hit piece in Science from Lewis very well. It was disturbing and really put the whole of Cold Fusion into doubt. Nathan Lewis, published a really good analysis on calorimetry of electrolysis and the physics thermal

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: None of what has been written recently in this thread addresses calorimetry > or any evidence of nuclear reactions, I want to make that clear. That > something gets hot sometimes and sometimes not isn't even close to such > evidence. >

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-25 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:15 PM 9/24/2012, Eric Walker wrote: If a reproducible lo-fi protocol could be worked out, someone could write to Nathan Lewis and say, "we took a look at your objections in 1989 to the calorimetry and think we might have found a way around some of the difficulties ..." None of what

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread David Roberson
]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: How about a Hoffman tube to capture the hydrogen and a wall mart aerator for a fish tank to circulate it back up thru the electrolyte – the excess would escape but pure

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: How about a Hoffman tube to capture the hydrogen and a wall mart aerator > for a fish tank to circulate it back up thru the electrolyte – the excess > would escape but pure hydrogen could be obtained from a sma

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites

2012-09-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
: Re: [Vo]:Good Alloy for Celani type reaction costs 5 cents : Chuck Sites On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 6:00 PM, David Roberson mailto:dlrober...@aol.com>> wrote: At the moment my hydrogen loading system is taking 1 amp at about 20 volts. The voltage reading varies greatly depending up