Re: Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Mike Carrell
Jed wrote: . . . Most people throughout most history have been rational and reasonable. Not ideal, but good enough. If that were not true our species would have gone extinct long ago. We are social animals -- pack hunting carnivores, like wolves. Such animals must to cooperate and protect other me

Re: Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Steven Krivit
Nice one, Jed "If several hundred researchers could all make large mistakes using 100 and 200-year-old techniques, science would never work in the first place. That is like asserting that you can select 200 carpenters at random, have each of them build a wooden house, and when they finish every

Re: Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: As you have probably noticed, policy is based on what a country CAN do not on what we think it WILL do.  Not only is it not possible to know how a country will behave, we have found that a country usually does what it CAN do. The Soviet Union might have started a nuclear war

Re: Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Edmund Storms
g the threat of selling as a way to gain influence and money. As long as a doubt remains about their having a weapon, they are safe from attack. Consequently, they playing poker while we are playing chess. I doubt there will be an energy war -- either economic or the shooting kind of war. Fi

Re: Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Edmund Storms
I'm not an economist, but I have been doing considerable reading about the problem. The Chinese can do the following: 1. They can use dollars obtained from providing products to Wal-Mart et al. to buy oil and other commodities that are sold in dollars. This will drive up the prices of these co

Re: Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Terry Blanton
$1.93 T is the *total* outstanding T-Note debt of which 10% is held by China:   http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt   Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   The Government of China is holding U.S. currency andTreasury notes in a $1.9 trillion Treasury bond trap. Whenthey pull the trigger on their "

Re: Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
in did the same thing for a long time, for reasons only he can tell. If the Koreans actually had weapons or a weapons production facility, they could have convinced the Los Alamos experts in 15 minutes. I doubt there will be an energy war -- either economic or the shooting kind of war. Fixing the ene

Re: Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Jones Beene
Terry > An interesting treatise on the future war with China: http://www.321energy.com/editorials/winston/winston020905.html There is probably a better adjective... maybe terrifying, alarming, etc. but is it really accurate? Are there any economists on Vortex? "As China's Master Plan to Destr

Energy War

2005-02-11 Thread Terry Blanton
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