Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-16 Thread R C Macaulay
I can accept that the business of government is business. What we saw in the Fed this week was betrayal, total, absolute, betrayal of the American people.. up to this point we watched corruption in high places.. but this was total betrayal by leadership in the trust we placed in government.

Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-15 Thread thomas malloy
R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Vorts, The USA has operated under the Keynesian economic model since FDR. This model ,as in all pyramid schemes, anticipates a sustained gravy train with biscuit wheels economy where everything purchased yesterday will be paid for in tomorrows dollars well..

Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-15 Thread R C Macaulay
Lets see if I have this straight in my mind.. Bear Stearns is an investment bank.. not a bank, so they cannot borrow money from the Fed. JP Morgan-Chase is a bank.. so JP borrowed 15 bil and change from the NY Fed and loaned it to Bare nekid because it's too big to fail. Translation.. when

Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-15 Thread Edmund Storms
It gets worse. The administration has not only made government bigger, they have made government part of the free enterprise system by printing money to keep large financial institutions from failing. This means that the lose will be shared by everyone who holds dollars. In other words,

Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-15 Thread Harry Veeder
United States Constitution (from wiki) Section 8 The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the

Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-15 Thread R C Macaulay
Harry Veeder's constitution excerpted... United States Constitution (from wiki) Section 8 The Congress shall have power When the Fed started bailing out private enterprise i.e. public corporations, it's getting beyond scary. Harvard and Wharton business school teach.. get positioned, grab

Re: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-15 Thread Harry Veeder
On 15/3/2008 10:37 PM, R C Macaulay wrote: Harvard and Wharton business school teach.. get positioned, grab and run. They are taught no one owns GM, whoever runs GM has a liscense to loot. Wall street people are now taught there are NO rules any longer. the only rule is... don't get

RE: [Vo]:[VO] : Old Energy New Money

2008-03-14 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Richard, have you seen any estimates of what gold would be worth if it was not used by some as an investment strategy against currency fluctuations? That is, if it were only used as a common material in manufacturing and jewelry, what might it be worth? Lawrence _ From: R C