To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bribing 2,000 climatologists
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
You could do a petition like that on cold fusion and might still find a
majority of professional scientists who think
Jed the issue is not the warming, it is the attribution.
As all scientists know correlation does not equal causation. - particularly
true when we are only looking at a couple of decades out of a series that
is literally billions of years long. There are demonstrably (historically
any time before
All arguments against global warming are stupid, for 2 reasons.
1: Claiming that there is a conspiracy by scientists against the
biggest companies in the world (oil companies) and for no reason I
have ever heard seems highly implausible, what is the motive.
It is hard to think of an analogy that
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:05 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bribing 2,000 climatologists
Oh no, Rothwell has uncovered our plot! I wonder how much it will take to buy
his silence? Anyone have a spare million to contribute to the
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Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Jed the issue is not the warming, it is the attribution.
I am certain that a large majority of climatologists attribute the warming
to CO2 produced by humans. Whether that is 97% or 80% or 75% makes no
difference to the point I am making here.
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
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If this 'bribe 3000' scientists can be taken of an example of the logic
that supports global warming, I am shocked.
You misunderstand. This is not an argument in support of global warming. It
is an argument against conspiracy theories such as the
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
Oh no, Rothwell has uncovered our plot! I wonder how much it will take to
buy his silence? Anyone have a spare million to contribute to the
cause?[image:
;-)]
A million would be fine. It is tax deductible, and
I wrote:
My arguments apply equally well to many other conspiracy theories, such as
the claim that the moon landings were faked . . .
I mean large conspiracies involving thousands of people. I think these are
impossible. Small conspiracies are possible. Some have occurred in history.
To
At 05:51 AM 12/5/2012, John Berry wrote:
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Arguments against global warming being real always strike me as to
self serving, too much like wishful thinking, to much like a pack a
day smoker saying smoking is good for you.
Railroad Bill: They say it'll kill me but they won't say when.
to produce. The KGB, CIA and
Mossad have been causing them for years to accomplish their ends.
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:28 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bribing 2,000 climatologists
I wrote
At 05:24 AM 12/5/2012, Robert Lynn wrote:
J
And despite what you might believe there are very large numbers of
professional scientists who doubt the validity of the IPCC CO2
driven thermageddon thesis eg 3+ including 9000+ PhD's in this
one petition:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
You could do a petition like that on cold fusion and might still find a
majority of professional scientists who think that cold fusion was
rejected long ago. Answers that you get can depend on the questions asked,
and asking people for opinions
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
There are MANY conspiracies that involve large numbers of people that are
quite successful.
I don't think so.
At least one 9/11 debunking site has protested as to why so many
conspiracy theorists ignore the most obvious conspiracy at the center:
At 02:40 PM 12/5/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I would be tempted to add a few multiple choice questions such as:
M. C. H. McKubre of SRI is known for using what type of calorimeter:
A. Seebeck.
B. Mass flow.
C. An ice calorimeter.
D. Davis-Besse.
E. He made up his results out of whole cloth
.
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bribing 2,000 climatologists
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.commailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
There are MANY conspiracies that involve large numbers
I wrote:
At least one 9/11 debunking site has protested as to why so many
conspiracy theorists ignore the most obvious conspiracy at the center:
there is no evidence that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 and the whole
war was based on lies.
That was not a conspiracy, which is defined
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy
The above is the definition of conspiracy. Apparently, you may find
it helpful.
I find it inaccurate. It says:
An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
That would
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bribing 2,000 climatologists
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
There are MANY conspiracies that involve large numbers of people that are
quite successful.
I don't think so.
At least one 9/11 debunking
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
This deception was practiced openly(???). I can also offer definitions
of 'oxymoron or 'contradiction in terms', if that would help.
Many deceptions are openly practiced. As I said, a politician running for
office may say: crime has risen to sky high
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bribing 2,000 climatologists
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.commailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
This deception was practiced openly(???). I can also offer definitions of
'oxymoron or 'contradiction in terms', if that would help.
Many deceptions are openly
Zell, Chris chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote:
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You could assert the same about a magic act on stage at Vegas. I shall,
however, continue to insist that, to the extent a thing depends on
deception, it is not open - and to the degree it is open, it is not
deception.
Then I suggest you examine
Oh no, Rothwell has uncovered our plot! I wonder how much it will take to buy
his silence? Anyone have a spare million to contribute to the cause?
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From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13 pm
Subject:
WOW... what an elaborate web of conspiracy you weave. Classic faulty
fallacious logic. First, you set up your conditions and then you proceed to
break it down and tell everyone - See, this does not make sense. Hmmm... I
believe that's called a Strawman Argument and you are not very good at
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