I agree with you. It appears real.
We still must remain open to the fact in the subject heading that fakes
have not yet been eliminated.
From: Peter Gluck
Subject: Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the
E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction
Lots of energy, for many
Alan Fletcher wrote:
H ... since they don't believe it. maybe I could act as Rossi's agent
to collect $1M .
Alan - I think someone should actually try this (arrange to be an Agent for
Rossi - to collect Randi's prize) . really.
On a more sodden note, here is the best Fake
Jones Beene wrote:
On a more sodden note, here is the best Fake alert dreamt-up yet, in
terms of the ease of pulling it off - for situation where the E-cat is
cooled by a direct connection to the building's water supply, as in Feb.
Explain how this would work in the systems being sent to
From: Jed Rothwell
On a more sodden note, here is the best Fake alert dreamt-up yet, in terms
of the ease of pulling it off - for situation where the E-cat is cooled by a
direct connection to the building's water supply, as in Feb.
JR: Explain how this would work in the systems being sent to
Before going to sleep- I want to ask you, Jones what's non-test?
I have made many tests, few successful many great failures- but not a single
non-test
Please define- and tell what has happened? My scenario is that they had a
great initial heat peak (not expected( and they had to quench the system
From: Peter
Before going to sleep- I want to ask you, Jones what's non-test?
Simply - it is not reliable.
This is because it was closed to all but a few chosen viewers and there is a
credible way to fake it.
Even if you believe it was not faked, it supplies no credible evidence
Lots of energy, for many hours- not bad.
Peak of energy after start, adds to realism.
He cannot and will not make demonstration
in a soccer arena before 50,000 fans.
He has a source of energy, he has some
technical and other problems (patenting,
reverseengineeringphobia) he makes smart
moves and
A new version is up at
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v316.php
a) I added the new Swedish interview -comments link
b) I added some new fake methods -- particularly Peter van Noorden's water
bypass and a couple of quibbles from the Randi forum
c) I've reorganized to use frames,
At 03:34 PM 4/6/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher
a...@well.com wrote:
Because the horizontal arm was NOT inspected
unwrapped, we have to assume it contained FAKE material.
The 6 hour test was NOT long enough to eliminate all of the
fakes.
What on EARTH is THAT supposed to mean?
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
*Discussion. * Since we do not have access to the internal design of the
central fuel container and no information on the external lead shielding and
the cooling water system we can only make very general comments.
I believe they had access to the
At 11:43 AM 4/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher
a...@well.com wrote:
Discussion.
Since we
do not have access to the internal design of the central fuel container
and no
information on the external lead shielding and the cooling water
system we can
only make very general comments.
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I believe they had access to the external lead shielding. It only takes a
moment to remove it. In their report, they said:
We had free access to the heater electric supply, to the inlet water hose,
to the outlet steam valve and water hose, and to the
Just to reiterate a little, the report says:
Figures 1 and 2 below depict the insulated device used for the experiment
together with three spare devices.
It is obvious from Fig. 2 how big the pipes under the insulation are. You
can peek and see most of them where the H2 valve comes out.
Fig. 4
. . . not AFFECT the conclusions.
- Jed
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v314.php
Preliminary Conclusion:
Because the horizontal arm was NOT inspected
unwrapped, we have to assume it contained FAKE
material. The 6 hour test was NOT long enough to eliminate all of
the fakes.
At 03:34 PM 4/6/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Alan J Fletcher
a...@well.com wrote:
Because the horizontal arm was NOT inspected
unwrapped, we have to assume it contained FAKE material.
The 6 hour test was NOT long enough to eliminate all of the
fakes.
What on EARTH is THAT supposed to mean? The
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