RE: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-21 Thread Jones Beene
I agree with you. It appears real. We still must remain open to the fact in the subject heading that fakes have not yet been eliminated. From: Peter Gluck Subject: Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction Lots of energy, for many

RE: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
Alan Fletcher wrote: H ... since they don't believe it. maybe I could act as Rossi's agent to collect $1M . Alan - I think someone should actually try this (arrange to be an Agent for Rossi - to collect Randi's prize) . really. On a more sodden note, here is the best Fake

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: On a more sodden note, here is the best Fake alert dreamt-up yet, in terms of the ease of pulling it off - for situation where the E-cat is cooled by a direct connection to the building's water supply, as in Feb. Explain how this would work in the systems being sent to

RE: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell On a more sodden note, here is the best Fake alert dreamt-up yet, in terms of the ease of pulling it off - for situation where the E-cat is cooled by a direct connection to the building's water supply, as in Feb. JR: Explain how this would work in the systems being sent to

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-20 Thread Peter Gluck
Before going to sleep- I want to ask you, Jones what's non-test? I have made many tests, few successful many great failures- but not a single non-test Please define- and tell what has happened? My scenario is that they had a great initial heat peak (not expected( and they had to quench the system

RE: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
From: Peter Before going to sleep- I want to ask you, Jones what's non-test? Simply - it is not reliable. This is because it was closed to all but a few chosen viewers and there is a credible way to fake it. Even if you believe it was not faked, it supplies no credible evidence

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-20 Thread Peter Gluck
Lots of energy, for many hours- not bad. Peak of energy after start, adds to realism. He cannot and will not make demonstration in a soccer arena before 50,000 fans. He has a source of energy, he has some technical and other problems (patenting, reverseengineeringphobia) he makes smart moves and

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-09 Thread Alan Fletcher
A new version is up at http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_frames_v316.php a) I added the new Swedish interview -comments link b) I added some new fake methods -- particularly Peter van Noorden's water bypass and a couple of quibbles from the Randi forum c) I've reorganized to use frames,

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:34 PM 4/6/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Because the horizontal arm was NOT inspected unwrapped, we have to assume it contained FAKE material. The 6 hour test was NOT long enough to eliminate all of the fakes. What on EARTH is THAT supposed to mean?

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: *Discussion. * Since we do not have access to the internal design of the central fuel container and no information on the external lead shielding and the cooling water system we can only make very general comments. I believe they had access to the

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-08 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:43 AM 4/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Discussion. Since we do not have access to the internal design of the central fuel container and no information on the external lead shielding and the cooling water system we can only make very general comments.

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: I believe they had access to the external lead shielding. It only takes a moment to remove it. In their report, they said: We had free access to the heater electric supply, to the inlet water hose, to the outlet steam valve and water hose, and to the

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Just to reiterate a little, the report says: Figures 1 and 2 below depict the insulated device used for the experiment together with three spare devices. It is obvious from Fig. 2 how big the pipes under the insulation are. You can peek and see most of them where the H2 valve comes out. Fig. 4

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
. . . not AFFECT the conclusions. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v314.php Preliminary Conclusion: Because the horizontal arm was NOT inspected unwrapped, we have to assume it contained FAKE material. The 6 hour test was NOT long enough to eliminate all of the fakes.

Re: [Vo]:FAKES NOT ALL ELIMINATED : Swedish physicists on the E-cat: It's a nuclear reaction

2011-04-06 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:34 PM 4/6/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Because the horizontal arm was NOT inspected unwrapped, we have to assume it contained FAKE material. The 6 hour test was NOT long enough to eliminate all of the fakes. What on EARTH is THAT supposed to mean? The