Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-24 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
There is no alpha emission in LENR as we have no kinetic behavior. Usually the EM energy contained in the 2 x 2 Dimension wobbling D-D pair is down-scaled by external magnetic moments, that are able to couple with the 2x2D field. At the end kinetic H*/D* are taking over the energy. There is

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-24 Thread Bob Higgins
Of course, the presumption is that the excess heat in Mizuno's reactor is being generated in his Ni screen and thermally transferred to the outer SS shell of his reactor vessel. That is not necessarily the case. If the output of the reaction was kinetic charged particle emission, and in

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-24 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
5:04:26 PM To: Vortex Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21 Alberto De Souza mailto:alberto.investi...@gmail.com>> wrote: I would like to suggest a setup for the replication of Misuno’s results. In this setup we would have two reactors operating side-by-side at the same time

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread Alberto De Souza
Mizuno's results show hundreds of extra watts coming out of the reactor. One thermocouple (or several) would certainly show a significant teperature difference (tens of degrees) between a dummy and a loaded reactor. We are already having long discussions about calorimetry rights and wrongs... The

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
2019 11:39 AM *To: *vortex-l <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> *ubject: *Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21 I believe that a steady state LENR reaction does not produce energy, but a flickering reaction does. This is why lowering the gas pressure to almost nothing reveals

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread Axil Axil
oper pairs with 0 spin and 2 electron charges with the original spin > energy of the 2 paired electrons the energy source. > > > > Bob Cook > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Axil Axil > *Se

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread Axil Axil
gle electrons into > Cooper pairs with 0 spin and 2 electron charges with the original spin > energy of the 2 paired electrons the energy source. > > > > Bob Cook > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > &g

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
with a specific photon energy or band of energies. Bob Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Alberto De Souza Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 4:19:58 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presen

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alberto De Souza wrote: I would like to suggest a setup for the replication of Misuno’s results. In > this setup we would have two reactors operating side-by-side at the same > time: one active and one dummy . . . Finally, thermocouples would monitor > the temperature in the external metal

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread JonesBeene
From: Alberto De Souza …I believe this setup is skeptic-proof (if we have a large COP, as Mizuno has had) and will save us from those ad nauseam debates about calorimetry. It is also cheaper than alternatives using a calorimeter. If testing an active reactor against a control reactor – how

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
source. Bob Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 11:39 AM To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> ubject: Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21 I believe that a

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread Alberto De Souza
I would like to suggest a setup for the replication of Misuno’s results. In this setup we would have two reactors operating side-by-side at the same time: one active and one dummy (mounted without the nickel meshes inside it). The sheath heater of these reactors would be connected in series and to

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread Axil Axil
I believe that a steady state LENR reaction does not produce energy, but a flickering reaction does. This is why lowering the gas pressure to almost nothing reveals the energy that LENR is producing. This goes back to my beleive that transmutation does not produce any meaningful LENR energy in the

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread JonesBeene
Can surface plasmons couple with dense hydrogen accumulating in nano cracks - in order to form large clusters of bosons at warm temperatures ? The cluster would contain many bound bosons (deuterium) in a condensed state. In effect, it is a “warm BEC”. If so then there is an instant route to

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread JonesBeene
From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Low gas pressure would also reduce the heat transfer coeff. between the Ni mesh and the wall of the reactor… creating coupling to the phonic lattice energy states Yes there are a number of reasons to suspect that mutual coupling and positive feedback between

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
JonesBeene wrote: > The most striking thing to me from this presentation is that Mizuno was > using the nickel mesh coated with palladium early on with modest success - > but did not see the big breakthrough until going to a lower pressure regime > (and allowing the reactor itself to heat

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno presentation at ICCF-21

2019-06-23 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Low gas pressure would also reduce the heat transfer coeff. between the Ni mesh and the wall of the reactor—increasing the thermal gradient and flux of high temperature photons which would increase or reduce resonant phonic vibrations in the Ni lattice and or resonance with spin energy states