Re: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political battle

2012-11-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
I don't accept the claim that there is nothing done under conception. I agree that there are still doubt whether there is existing conception of LENR reactor, BUT there are clear evidence that there is probably such conception done by first Defkalion (who claim enough problems you can estimate

RE: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political battle

2012-11-12 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Conception is the step where all the engineering skills are used to: Organise equipment, Design equipment, Make plans, Create process, Create build process, Testing In my point of view, Brillouin and Defkalion are still in the Basic research process. Their LENR devices can not be

Re: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political battle

2012-11-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
OK, with that description, which I call industrialization, I agree, even if Rossi is maybe at that point, but far from certain... The point for Rossi and Defkalion is they have defined the detailed process happening in their reactors, the triggering and control methods, the fuel treatments...

RE: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political battle

2012-11-09 Thread Zell, Chris
It may be to our advantage that Rossi and others are thought to be fools or frauds. Let the PTB find out otherwise amidst surprize and their own ruin. I have often wondered how a free energy technology could be introduced at large if an 'accident' or sudden 'heart attack' or murder by a lone

Re: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political battle

2012-11-09 Thread ken deboer
Jed, I agree (almost) completely with all you said here; very well put. However, while I agree the main 'CF' industry will be by mid- and large corps, I do still believe that there will be a rather large, worldwide, 'underground' micro-lenr industry. Not quite cottage, but local full service lenr

Re: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political battle

2012-11-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
ken deboer barlaz...@gmail.com wrote: Not quite cottage, but local full service lenr dealers and installers. Some of these may carry 'off brand' or locally made small scale, lenr devices special built for local or idiiosyncratic uses. That would resemble the place I bought my latest

RE: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political battle

2012-11-09 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Jed, I like your analogy with CPU's industry (and more generally with IC industry). In this particular industry, there are 3 main fields: Basic research Conception Manufacturing For the 2 fields that are conception and manufacturing, there is currently nothing occurring for LENR (except