OK, with that description, which I call "industrialization", I agree, even if Rossi is maybe at that point, but far from certain...
The point for Rossi and Defkalion is they have defined the detailed process happening in their reactors, the triggering and control methods, the fuel treatments... However they need to make the final manufacturing design, to be cheap, reliable, robust, efficient... Defkalion had claims that, but it seems to have been "startup promises". For Brillouin, they seems late but I won't be surprised is they are at the same point. The race is open today. 2012/11/12 Arnaud Kodeck <[email protected]> > Conception is the step where all the engineering skills are used to:**** > > Organise equipment,**** > > Design equipment,**** > > Make plans,**** > > Create process, Create build process,**** > > Testing**** > > ** ** > > In my point of view, Brillouin and Defkalion are still in the Basic > research process. Their LENR devices can not be manufactured, and built for > commercial purpose. Their LENR devices are only used for research. That’s > why I say there are not yet in “Conception” step in order to build, > manufacture LENR reactor to sell.**** > > ** ** > > Rossi claims to have something to sell (cold 1MW plant), Unfortunately, > this device is not mature yet. I doubt he will sell a lot of them. > Conception is ongoing; While also in the same time, Rossi claims to > research for its Hot Cat. So he is back to basic research. He has probably > understood that its 1MW cold plant has too much weakness to be sold.**** > > ** ** > > A working reactor design is not enough to say to be in “Conception step”. > It depends also on the purpose of the reactor. Reactors of Brillouin, and > Defkalion are for research, not for sale.**** > > ** ** > > I’m sure they are working hard to go one step further!**** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Alain Sepeda > *Sent:* lundi 12 novembre 2012 10:52 > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political > battle > **** > > ** ** > > I don't accept the claim that there is nothing done under conception. > > > I agree that there are still doubt whether there is existing conception of > LENR reactor, BUT there are clear evidence that there is probably such > conception done by first Defkalion (who claim enough problems you can > estimate with faire confidence that they have something real), by Brillouin > even if early state, and also by Rossi (because of claims of people > orbiting around him - Rossi being a black hole for trust, invisible itself > but detectable by it's influence around). > > It is uncertain, but uncertainty should not be translated into > nonexistence, or even in probable nonexistence. My internal consensus is > that : > P>=0.95 that there is at least a working reactor design currently tested > and requiring only industrialization work. > > you can disagree with my number, but P<0.5 seems a clear mistake from the > data we have. > Even Rossi alone is above that. > > That none of the reactor is working would requires conspiracy style of > explanations or black swan events. I cannot guarantee that black-swan > p<0.05, leading to my p>=0.95 of a working reactor design somewhere today. > > beside that I estimate P>0.90 that convincing mainstream will be > impossible with any scientific evidence, any test, any demo. Only an > industrial success can break the denial. > > So yes, no conception will be accepted until it is manufactured and > installed.**** > > 2012/11/9 Arnaud Kodeck <[email protected]>**** > > **** > > For the 2 fields that are conception and manufacturing, there is currently > nothing occurring for LENR (except a small start from Rossi). Without a > “proof of concept”, it’s too early to invest there. Once it will be > demonstrated that a LENR device can be scaled up and controlled, private > investments will flow from everywhere. The LENR issue isn’t currently here. > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** >
