Jed Rothwell wrote:
Rick Monteverde wrote:
2. It promotes economic growth according to Keynesian theory.
Let's agree to disagree on that point.
We don't disagree. You say the Keynesians are wrong and I say I don't
have a clue if they are right or wrong. I am not taking their side. I
Keynesian economics is a ponzi scheme. The story goes that Keynes was
confronted with this accusation a few years before his death. He concurred,
but said it didn't concern him because he would be dead before it all came
crashing down.
I think he died about three years ago. Would it help
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
I suspect WWII worked as a long term stimulus, because of the
increased RD that it required, which later paid off in other areas.
E.g. air transport.
Probably it did, but that long term stimulus does not explain the
immediate post-war boom. It took 10 or 20 years
Yes, but why do we have to keep burning stuff?
Harry
- Original Message -
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:06 pm
Subject: [Vo]:The key to self-sufficient Energy
This is the first key to Obama's brilliant energy plan:
http://tinyurl.com/dfrew7
Jones Beene wrote:
Sit back and shut-up, or change you tired old spiel - that is the
best thing you can do for us now, Neo-cons and assorted Rush-Bimbo-ites.
I assume this is addressed to William Kristol, who wrote today:
Republicans need to find reasons to obstruct and delay Obama's agenda.
Jones Beene wrote:
Sit back and shut-up, or change you tired old spiel - that is the
best thing you can do for us now, Neo-cons and assorted Rush-Bimbo-ites.
Jed wrote:
I assume this is addressed to William Kristol, who wrote today:
Republicans need to find reasons to obstruct and delay
OrionWorks wrote:
Let me repeat that:
...NEED TO FIND REASONS to obstruct and delay Obama's agenda...
What an incredibly revealing sentence.
Does he know what he said?
It is hilarious. BUT that was the teaser headline. It could be that a
Washington Post copy editor composed it, and
Jed -
Jindal's comments are an example of the lingering anti-technology,
anti-science attitude of the Bush administration and the Republican
Party. Unfortunately, there is a lot of this attitude in the rest of
A demagogue takes things out of context and twists them, weaving truthful
content
Rick Monteverde wrote:
Jindal was correctly pointing out that volcano monitoring, worthy as
it may be, is just an example of the far-fetched things that should
NOT be in an emergency economic recovery plan. Volcano monitoring
money should be spent, IMO, and everybody, including I would say
Let me emphasize again that I am talking here only about volcano
monitoring. Rick Monteverde and Jindal may be correct about the
overall recovery plan. I have not looked at it. For all I know, it
could be 90% pork and wasted money on unnecessary functions of
government. Naturally I understand
Jed -
... you are not familiar with modern volcano monitoring.
Not that you would know anything about me or the ideas and interests I've
discussed here all these years, but do you even consider where I live, who I
have worked with here, and what I live ON? (Hint: I'll spot you a 'v', an
'o',
Rick Monteverde wrote:
I just correctly pointed out that environmental monitoring, good or
otherwise, is a great example of NOT-STIMULUS . . .
This is a different issue entirely. According to Keynsians, spending
money for any purpose is a stimulus. I wouldn't know about that. I
know
You forget Jed that WWII was not a stimulus to the rest of the world
and we gained only because we sold the items that were destroyed for
gold. After WWII we were the only country that could manufacture much
of anything for a long time. I don't think the approach you suggest
would work
and forethought (hey, at least read the
danged thing!) before voting on it.
- Rick
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From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:42 PM
To: vortex-L@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:The key to self-sufficient Energy
Let me emphasize again that I
Edmund Storms wrote:
You forget Jed that WWII was not a stimulus to the rest of the world and we
gained only because we sold the items that were destroyed for gold. After
WWII we were the only country that could manufacture much of anything for a
long time. I don't think the approach you
Rick Monteverde wrote:
2. It promotes economic growth according to Keynesian theory.
Let's agree to disagree on that point.
We don't disagree. You say the Keynesians are wrong and I say I don't have a
clue if they are right or wrong. I am not taking their side. I am just
reported what they
q: when is a stimulus not a stimulus?
a: whenit is exciting for others but not for you.
Harry
- Original Message -
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009 6:51 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:The key to self-sufficient Energy
Rick Monteverde wrote: I just
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:05:28 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
So-called boondoggles or pork fail in category 3. They produce no
benefit. But, as I said, WWII produced no benefit yet it seemed to succeed
as a stimulus, so perhaps all you need are items 1 and 2. Either that, or
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