Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-21 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
umber as your driver or student ID number. Sleepy and dozy at the moment so point the flaws out please. Might be back Tuesday. Remi. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Beaty Sent: 17 December 2005 04:11 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-20 Thread Merlyn
Gosh Bill, Now I feel bad for using a free email and online handle. What's in a name? Is a long-used handle any more or less informative than the name your parents gave you? A family name tells where you came from. A nickname tells what your friends think about you. A Nom de Cyber tells what you

RE: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-17 Thread R . O . Cornwall
f you don't sign up, you don't play. Sleepy and dozy at the moment so point the flaws out please. Might be back Tuesday. Remi. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Beaty Sent: 17 December 2005 04:11 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subj

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Rhong Dhong wrote: > At the moment then, requiring an email address to be > confirmed may not mean that the subscriber can be > traced. Where anonymity is banned (or where money is involved,) some places refuse to honor yahoo.com email addresses or other free email services f

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Steven Krivit wrote: > Bill B's got a good point. This is one of the aspects which makes Vortex > such a valuable group. > Most people are willing to identify themselves and stand behind their words. In observing (or fighting with) flamer types over the years, I noticed that

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread Rhong Dhong
--- William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If Wikipedia started out using the simple > email-verified registration > which nearly all WWW forums use to exclude > trolls/flamers/spammers, it > would be a very different resource today. > There are two anonymizing utilities, Tor and Privoxy

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread hohlrauml6d
Others believe the Logos should be self-sustaining. Or as Mr. Grimer iterated *In principio erat Verbum et Verbum erat apud Deum et Deus erat Verbum* (bringing us back off topic ;-) -Original Message- From: Steven Krivit Bill B's got a good point. This is one of the aspects which ma

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread Steven Krivit
Bill B's got a good point. This is one of the aspects which makes Vortex such a valuable group. Most people are willing to identify themselves and stand behind their words. Steve At 02:09 PM 12/16/2005, you wrote: Yep, one hoaxster 'fessed up recently: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/na

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
William Beaty wrote: But Wikipedia is an experiment in *anonymous* free speech, where abusive people with mild mental problems cannot be blocked . . . Actually, the editors can block people, and they have done so occasionally. I suppose the offenders can simply register a new name. If Wik

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread hohlrauml6d
Yep, one hoaxster 'fessed up recently: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002677060_wiki11.html http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051211-5739.html -Original Message- From: William Beaty But Wikipedia is an experiment in *anonymous* free speech, where abusive people

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Vo, Jed, > Wikipedia is a model of free speech (not free screech) and democracy but I > guess what we really mean by free speech is *informed* free speech and what > we really mean by democracy is an educated populous (adult, not a-dolt), non > salaci

RE: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread R . O . Cornwall
tex-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Wikipedia is a model of free speech (not free screech) and democracy but I >guess what we really mean by free speech is *informed* free speech . . . Why do you call it a model? In Wikipedia, anything goes. Anyone ca

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wikipedia is a model of free speech (not free screech) and democracy but I guess what we really mean by free speech is *informed* free speech . . . Why do you call it a model? In Wikipedia, anything goes. Anyone can post any comment, anonymously. This is an invitation

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-16 Thread R . O . Cornwall
you posted Schwinger's paper a few months ago with an early insight into CF and it was very interesting to see how a rational mind goes about tackling a difficult problem and putting delimiters on it. It should be more known. Regards, Remi. Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia Jed Rothwell Thu, 15 Dec 2005

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: Of course these are early days, and competitors to wikipedia may emerge as it did with browsers. I expect the people at Wikipedia will welcome this. They would probably agree that their model does not work for all subjects. We need a variety of different online encycloped

Re: Correa attacks Wikipedia

2005-12-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Of course these are early days, and competitors to wikipedia may emerge as it did with browsers. Harry Jed Rothwell wrote: > Maybe Wikipedia deserves more respect after all! This page: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia > > . . . has a link to an attack by Correa et al.: