Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-28 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michael Foster's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:13:58 -0500 (EST): Hi, [snip] Actually, I think that problem that has sickened science is not the craving for certainty. It is the compulsion to consensus that has caused the outrageous behavior of the scientific community toward its

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-28 Thread Harry Veeder
Michael Foster wrote: Actually, I think that problem that has sickened science is not the craving for certainty. It is the compulsion to consensus that has caused the outrageous behavior of the scientific community toward its greatest innovators. Consensus science is, after all, not

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Zell, Chris wrote: Does anyone see anything DRAMATICALLY WRONG with this event? They describe the discovery as bloody obvious and say that they were shunned and labeled as eccentric. More than that, decades of modern medicine fail to correctly identify the simple cause

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to William Beaty's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:28:48 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] Ridiculed, vindicated scientific discoveries http://amasci.com/weird/vindac.html According to the Russians, T. Gold got his theories from them. [snip] I think we have Emperor's clothes effect to thank.

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subconsciously all humans crave certainty, which is why we are so unwilling to give it up just when we think we have hold of a large chunk of it. Of course in reality, there is no such thing as certainty, so our

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:21:04 -0500: Hi, From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subconsciously all humans crave certainty, which is why we are so unwilling to give it up just when we think we have hold of a large chunk of it. Of course in reality,

Re: The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-27 Thread Michael Foster
Robin wrote: Subconsciously all humans crave certainty, which is why we are so unwilling to give it up just when we think we have hold of a large chunk of it. Of course in reality, there is no such thing as certainty, so our struggle is either endless, or we settle for delusion.

The Most Astounding Nobel Prize Ever!

2005-11-23 Thread Zell, Chris
See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4307826.stm So, two guys get a Nobel prize for discovering that a bacterial infection causes ulcers. A simple antibiotic cures the problem. Does anyone see anything DRAMATICALLY WRONG with this event? They describe the discovery as bloody obvious