Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-21 Thread Grimer
At 09:18 pm 20-01-05 -0500, Mick wrote: MC: In the case cited, grounding of the can is irrelevant. Small AM radios have a ferrite stick as the antenna, which responds to the magnetic portion of the EM fields and grounding is not needed. They also have automatic gain control circuits which try to

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-20 Thread thomas malloy
The Barron posted and Merlyn replied; I'm sorry Baron, but what!?! shielding of a cable from frequencies higher than ULF is easily accomplished by a metal conduit. How would the wire sheath that the Baron suggested work? Yes, they have engineered materials which have an effective index of

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-20 Thread Jones Beene
Frank, Ground it??? I didn't know you were supposed to ground it! 8-( [Curls up in embarrassment] You can see why I failed Applied Electricity in my first term at UCL . OK. You are indeed a specialist engineer. Essentially you just made a better antenna for it by enlarging the near field

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-20 Thread Merlyn
I was always told that cosmic rays were primarily alpha particles ejected from the sun, but when I looked up the EM spectrum there was a notation at the high end for cosmic rays. I'm going to guess that "cosmic rays" represents general background space radiation, and therefore contains both.thomas

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-19 Thread Merlyn
Actually the longer the wavelength, the greater the penetrating power. Cosmic rays penetrate because the are particles, not EM radiation. The shorter wavelengths have a stronger effect because they carry more energy.Mike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote again: Tom wrote: and Mike Carrel

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-19 Thread thomas malloy
Title: Re: ionizing radiation Actually the longer the wavelength, the greater the penetrating power. Cosmic rays penetrate because the are particles, not EM radiation. The shorter wavelengths have a stronger effect because they carry more energy. Mike Carrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-19 Thread Harry Veeder
Title: Re: ionizing radiation In terms of water waves, would a scalar wave be a ripple on the surface of swell wave. Harry Merlyn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry Baron, but what!?! The EM spectrum is as follows: 3 - 30 Hz ELF 30 - 300 Hz ULF 3 - 30 kHz VLF 30 kHz - 30 GHz Radio

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-19 Thread Grimer
At 03:26 pm 19-01-05 -0500, you wrote: MC: In my metaphor about regarding EM radiation as a liquid or gas getting out of a box, that was a simple way of saying that any discontinuity in the shielding of a Faraday cage can function as an antenna and allow some slight radiation to escape. It takes

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-19 Thread Jones Beene
I put in the radio to demonstrate the Faraday Cage effect but to my disgust the radio sounded as loud as ever. In fact the 12x6 lid, which had folded edges soldered at the corners, was a close fit but not air tight. Presumably the long cracks were sufficient to allow penetration of the AM

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread Dave D
On Tuesday, January 18, 2005, at 01:00 AM, Mike Carrell wrote: ... If this were generally true, there would be a worldwide epidemic of brain cancer by now. I think you will find that there is. A few years ago the increase in brain cancers in the US (and presumably other countries) was said to be

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 1/16/05 6:22:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did a remodeling project on what once was a medical clinic. When we cut into the walls, there were sheets of lead in them. I am interested in stopping EMF, in particular short wave X rays and

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread Merlyn
Note that the strength of EM radiation from a cell phone is highest when it connects to the tower, at the start of a call, incoming or outgoing. I don't recall the precise numbers, but I saw the experiment on 'Mythbusters' when they were dealing with the cell phone / gas station myth. So the

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread thomas malloy
Title: Re: ionizing radiation Meryln posted; Note that the strength of EM radiation from a cell phone is highest when it connects to the tower, at the start of a call, incoming or outgoing. I don't recall the precise numbers, but I saw the experiment on 'Mythbusters' when they were dealing

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread thomas malloy
Title: Re: ionizing radiation I posted, and Then the Baron weighted in: I did a remodeling project on what once was a medical clinic. When we cut into the walls, there were sheets of lead in them. Cell phones, and high frequency waves especially those that are mixed frequencies can

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread Merlyn
This link sums up cell phone safety issues fairly well, the results are inconclusive. http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/publicfeature/aug00/prad.html Spectrum is the magazine of IEEE, which is the professional association of electrical and electronics engineers.MerlynMagickal Engineer and Technical

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread Grimer
I thought this article recently on the BBC website may be of interest. Grimer === Child warning over mobile phones Many children use mobile phones Parents should ensure their children use mobile phones only when absolutely necessary

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread Mike Carrell
Tom wrote again: Tom wrote: and Mike Carrel replied I did a remodeling project on what once was a medical clinic. When we cut into the walls, there were sheets of lead in them. Lead would be used to stop Xrays, nothing more. It was a thin layer of lead, would such a layer stop

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-18 Thread Baronvolsung
In a message dated 1/18/05 10:45:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was talking to a physicist about photons. Fiber optic cables, which carry photons, may be shielded from high energy smaller than light wavelengths such as emf's, by using negative refractive nano

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-17 Thread Mike Carrell
Tom wrote: I did a remodeling project on what once was a medical clinic. When we cut into the walls, there were sheets of lead in them. Lead would be used to stop Xrays, nothing more. I am interested in stopping EMF, in particular short wave X rays and possibly shorter wave EMF. Check

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-17 Thread Grimer
At 09:00 am 17-01-05 -0500, you wrote: Tom wrote: I did a remodeling project on what once was a medical clinic. When we cut into the walls, there were sheets of lead in them. Lead would be used to stop Xrays, nothing more. Can also be used for reducing sound transmission which depends upon

Re: ionizing radiation

2005-01-17 Thread thomas malloy
Tom wrote: and Mike Carrel replied I did a remodeling project on what once was a medical clinic. When we cut into the walls, there were sheets of lead in them. Lead would be used to stop Xrays, nothing more. It was a thin layer of lead, would such a layer stop short X rays too? I am