Re: serious chewing and eotvos

2005-01-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Grimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:05 pm 12-01-05 -0500, you wrote: Grimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:24 pm 12-01-05 -0500, Harry wrote: Your protons and neutrons are not like the protons and neutrons known to physics. Neutrons and protons both have inertia and gravity,

Re: serious chewing and eotvos

2005-01-13 Thread Grimer
At 03:42 am 13-01-05 -0500, Harry wrote: Do thing 1 and thing 2 come with a thing-force to keep them together? By George, (s)he's got it, Pickering. By George, (s)he's got it. ;^) Of course they do. That was implicit in the analogy. It's no good having a sail and a hull if they haven't

Re: Solar-Cold Fusion Spacecraft Propulsion

2005-01-13 Thread Frederick Sparber
Horace Heffnerwrote: Fred, I am so glad you are still around. You are one of the few remaining list members who seems to not be numerically challenged. At 5:29 PM 1/12/5, Frederick Sparber wrote: I propose using very large cylinders of solid CO2 with the ends pointedtoward the sun so that the

Re: Solar-Cold Fusion Spacecraft Propulsion

2005-01-13 Thread Frederick Sparber
Canthe solar sailbeat losing a few grams of CO2 (Dry Ice) per square meter at 1.3 KW/meter^2? http://www.planetary.org/solarsail/ http://www.planetary.org/ Frederick

Re: Does Dry H2O Ice Tap ZPE?

2005-01-13 Thread leaking pen
sublimation and natural balancing of concentration of states. the only time youd have a vp of 0 would be at absolute zero, above that, your still going to have a certain amount constantly going back and forth between solid and gas states. nothing unusual about it. On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:40:47

Re: The first sound waves left imprint on the Universe

2005-01-13 Thread FHLew
Greetings The first sound waves left imprint on the Universe http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/aas_universe_structure_050111.html The Primordial Harmonic Template of the Universe ( QuantumSpherical Standing Wave )" Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces

Re: Does Dry H2O Ice Tap ZPE?

2005-01-13 Thread Frederick Sparber
Leaking Penisaying that it doesn't involve ZPee? :-) Frederick [Original Message] From: leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: 1/13/05 9:48:46 AM Subject: Re: Does Dry H2O Ice Tap ZPE? sublimation and natural balancing of concentration of states. the

Re: Does Dry H2O Ice Tap ZPE?

2005-01-13 Thread Frederick Sparber
Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, What's causing the vapor pressure of Dry or Water Ice at those low temperatures? Beta-aether Either that or 3 K radiation. http://radio.weblogs.com/0101365/2003/09/04.html According to the above chart, carbon dioxide of about -122°C

Re: Does Dry H2O Ice Tap ZPE?

2005-01-13 Thread Jones Beene
Fred, Beta-aether Either that or 3 K radiation. The two (CMB and B-A) ARE connected in a surprising way. a velocity of about 325 meters per second at 1.3 KW/meter^2 solar or CF photon insolation. That translates to a significant Specific Impulse (isp). Yes. Although it is far less (6x

Re: Would appreciate PR for book

2005-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
I think people here must be spreading the word about the book, because downloads increased from around 15 per day to 35 yesterday, and 35 more today (so far). Thank you everyone. Obviously, I have no advertising budget, and word-of-mouth is the only way to promote the book -- or the web site,

Re: Does Dry H2O Ice Tap ZPE?

2005-01-13 Thread Grimer
At 10:06 13/01/2005 -0800, you wrote: Fred, Beta-aether Either that or 3 K radiation. The two (CMB and B-A) ARE connected in a surprising way. a velocity of about 325 meters per second at 1.3 KW/meter^2 solar or CF photon insolation. That translates to a significant Specific Impulse

Re: serious chewing and eotvos

2005-01-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Grimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:42 am 13-01-05 -0500, Harry wrote: Do thing 1 and thing 2 come with a thing-force to keep them together? By George, (s)he's got it, Pickering. By George, (s)he's got it. ;^) Of course they do. That was implicit in the analogy. It's no good

Re: Solar-Cold Fusion Spacecraft Propulsion

2005-01-13 Thread Harry Veeder
Frederick Sparber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not so sure about that numerically challenged part, Horace. I come up with about 90 lbs thrust per square meter for CO2 sublimation, and about 20 lbs per square meter for H2O ice sublimation thrust. With CO2 Smoke and Mirrors you can fly

Re: Does Dry H2O Ice Tap ZPE?

2005-01-13 Thread Horace Heffner
At 11:20 AM 1/13/5, Grimer wrote: Mmm...very interesting. I wish I could have written all that. ;^) It's amazing how stuff one posts here comes back in various forms at later times. Regards, Horace Heffner

Re: Superluminal and relativity

2005-01-13 Thread Standing Bear
On Saturday 11 December 2004 21:12, Kyle Mcallister wrote: Hello all, The recent discussions of FTL signalling and its repercussions is interesting to me, and is something which has troubled my mind for many years. After studying special relativity, particularly the implications of

Physics Today Article on DoE re-review of CF effect.

2005-01-13 Thread Akira Kawasaki
January 13, 2005 Vortex, Snail mail being what it is, I received the January issue (Volume 58 issue One) of Physics Today yesterday. There is a short column in the 'Issues and Events' listed in the Table of Contents titled Cold Fusion gets a chilly Encore, by Toni Feder. The article goes over